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Important notes
- Both supporters and detractors, please approach this more civilly than the last thread. Nothing can get done if this is turned into a mud slinging contest.
- This thread will be taking a different approach and using straightforward, already accepted feats in an attempt to be concise as possible.
To supporters, please avoid whataboutisms. Not only are comparisons to other Verses almost never 1-to-1 but they almost always lead to “X character is just wanked!” derailing.
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Can defeat users of the Power Stars, which can create pocket dimensions full of stars. Can harm Power Moon users, which are comparable to Power Stars. Fought King Boo who created several realms with many stars)
Durability: Multi-Solar System level (Capable of taking hits from Bowser, Power Star users, Power Moon users, and King Boo. Tanked Brobot's explosion, which destroyed a realm containing numerous stars)
So if this is the case, what makes Low 2-C an outlier?
Black Jewel
The Black Jewel has Low 2-C Attack Potency and Durability for creating a parallel universe, which collapses upon its defeat, implying it was sustaining it. Wario could harm and tank hits from it, as well as tank the parallel universe’s collapse.Grand Stars
The Grand Stars are rated as Low 2-C power sources as one served as the power source for the Galaxy Reactor, a mechanism that could collapse and recreate the universe:
Based on a key on Bowser’s profile being amplified by a Grand Star bestows Low 2-C AP and Dura:
Attack Potency: Universe level+(Empowered by a Grand Star which is not only vastly superior to Power Stars, but is also the source of power that he was going to use to destroy and remake the universe during the events of the first Super Mario Galaxy game)
Durability: Universal+ (Empowered by a Grand Star), higher via his shell
Even if you don’t want to scale Mario to a Grand Star-empowered Bowser, he has defeated other enemies empowered by Grand Stars (Bowser Junior, Gobblegut, King Kaliente, ect), which would make said enemies Low 2-C for the same logic Bowser is.
This scaling essentially operates under the same logic of us scaling Mario to Power Stars.
The Sammer Kingdom feat
In SPM, Mario and his party withstand the incomplete Void, which destroys the dimension of Sammer’s Kingdom.The Void destroys space-time, and Mario’s party were still in the universe as it was being destroyed.
- "At the 30th gate, The Void will reach its mature state and destroy the kingdom of the Sammer Guys-with you still in it."
My Point
- Based on the logic we already use for the profiles, a Low 2-C rating doesn’t seem out of the question.
- If three feats can warrant 4-A, why can’t three feats warrant Low 2-C?
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