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I agree. Mario used to have like 7 4-A feats but most were nuked (disagree with some but whatever)
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Wouldn’t it be Low 2-C since it destroys space-time?This document is probably outdated with my current view (I haven't reviewed it since I wrote it years ago), but it probably at least presents why the feat might fall under 3-A instead.
Star, are you reading the thread? I asked that because they said the feat is 3-ADestroying space-time on a universal scale is indeed Low 2-C actually, idk why is that a question mav
Furthermore, the Black Jewel has turned Wario's Castle into an unknown world in an attempt to create its own kingdom.
There's issues with this argument. First off, you mind linking me the website, or is that just random text from the game?I looked for the official Japanese website of Wario world
Second off, this doesn't at all make the parallel universe statement false, since world and universe can be the same. So what exactly is the refute? It's not like they called it a country.Furthermore, the Black Jewel has turned Wario's Castle into an unknown world in an attempt to create its own kingdom.
Guess you could argue there’s no “Parallel” in the text like the English one, implying some more major changes and that World is probably more Accurate since the game is well... Wario WorldThere'sSecond off, this doesn't at all make the parallel universe statement false, since world and universe can be the same. So what exactly is the refute? It's not like they called it a country.
Version of what?in the English version
I believe this statement only applies to the Void at its full potential, especially since whilst it slowly grows throughout the game, its actions don't reflect what it's said to be capable of doing. Only when it reaches its full potential (fully grown, catalysed by Super Dimentio) does it start warping and consuming all worlds at once, for example. So I don't think the space-time destruction happens at the time the Sammer Kingdom is destroyed. There's also proof space-time remains in the Sammer Kingdom when it's reduced to the World of Nothing, as elaborated upon in the document, such as how there's distance (from where you return to the World of Nothing to the Pure Heart, which is quite a notable distance) and objects (the debris) that can be interacted with even when Flipping, and how time-based items work there and several events occur in an order (which generally requires time). It's probably explained better in the document with scans and clips and such, but this is the gist of it.Wouldn’t it be Low 2-C since it destroys space-time?
“World” doesn’t really contradict universe so I don’t think the statement from Nintendo of Europe’s official website would be invalidated.doesn't say anything about a universe in Japanese
That was rejectedI would like to add on the fact that Mario was also able to beat King Olly, who was stated that he was folding the very fabric of reality. "Very" as an adjective means "actual" "precise" or "definitive". In other words Olly was folding the "complete" or "pure" fabric of reality. I'll have to dig through the old thread to find the scan but either way, this phrase is also used in the Mario Galaxy feat in the guidebook, and I'm not entirely sure why people skimmed over it.
True, but the reasons why it was rejected weren't well constructed imo. It would be irrelevant to the thread though I suppose.That was rejected
Bad argument.That was rejected
I mean in the Final Cutscene, the two people directly saved by Rosalina and the Luma’s before anything happened to them (Mario and Peach) look tired and worn out just like BowserIf he got effected by the reset he should wake up just fine and be alright like everything else
I mean Peach also never gets on her feet at all, honestly I’d say Peach looks more banged up then Bowser honestly, Plus Mario characters are cartoonish so there Reactions are going to be a bit over the top no matter how shaken they areThe difference is Bowser has a headache, shaking his head and stumbling, which fits the "shaken from narrowly escaping" thing from the Prima guide. I wouldn't get too hung up on it though. The Prima Guide can also be interpreted as Bowser having died and been reborn with the line "and in the end he paid the price"
Peach was really fine in the cutscene espacially when she got shielded by rosalina so she remembers all of these things (the cutscene show her directly waking up, she is not supposed to gets on her feet instantly even mario didn't do that at first)I mean Peach also never gets on her feet at all, honestly I’d say Peach looks more banged up then Bowser honestly, Plus Mario characters are cartoonish so there Reactions are going to be a bit over the top no matter how shaken they are
I mean, Bowser did, he got back on his feet pretty much right when Mario saw him, though he did fall over, Peach didn’t even tryPeach was really fine in the cutscene espacially when she got shielded by rosalina so she remembers all of these things (the cutscene show her directly waking up, she is not supposed to gets on her feet instantly even mario didn't do that at first)
You can't compare Peach to bowser and say she was hurt when she was shielded by rosalina, she seems pretty fine and she is not supposed to instantly stand up after she woke up, mario didn't do that either.I mean, Bowser did, he got back on his feet pretty much right when Mario saw him, though he did fall over, Peach didn’t even try
But if the Shielding and resetting Process has a visible effect on People to make them tired and “shaken” that it looks comparable to the one Bowser had, then I don’t think saying “well bowser looks banged up in the cutscene and everyone else looks fine” is much evidence he wasn’t protected in some way himself or effect by the reset, and I don’t feel the guide is as Blatent about Bowsers “Escape” as people seem to think it is (I also just don’t like Prima Guides but whatever)You can't compare Peach to bowser and say she was hurt when she was shielded by rosalina, she seems pretty fine and she is not supposed to instantly stand up after she woke up, mario didn't do that either.
And we both know that she is aware of what happened, so maybe she was surprised or something (espacially since she just woke up at that moment) and if mario can get up, she can as well.
The shield didn't make Peach shaken and tiredBut if the Shielding and resetting Process has a visible effect on People to make them tired and “shaken” that it looks comparable to the one Bowser had, then I don’t think saying “well bowser looks banged up in the cutscene and everyone else looks fine” is much evidence he wasn’t protected in some way himself, and I don’t feel the guide is as Blatent about Bowsers “Escape” as people seem to think it is (I also just don’t like Prima Guides but whatever)
I mean there’s a difference between drawing power from an outside force and literally absorbing power from something and having that power inside of you. Kinda like Feedback from Ben 10 absorbing the Annihilaargh, Mario being amped by the pure hearts and Dimentio by the Chaos Heart and comics Bart absorbing the entire speedforce inside of himself to face Superboy-Prime. Bowser should be the latter.As far as I know being empowered by a power source doesn't mean you are as strong as the power source itself is. For example CW Flash isn't 2-A for being powered by the Speedforce.
Man, you're back?Bad argument.
He literally ate the star, if it isn't inside of him then where is the power?Using a power source doesn't mean you have it's full power therefore that's not a feat.