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Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

Mostly finished (I did so many night shifts while making / finishing them I got super delirious and thought 75% done was 100%) but they need touching up

The reworks for the temple bosses are finished tho
 
CrackerVolley said:
Wait, I just realized something. Should Link have Non-Physical Interaction? Because he’s able to grab and collect poes.
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We don't have evidence poes are intangible in this one unfortunately or at least not from what I remember.

The soldier spirits he can't even touch same as the poes
 
He'd probably have NPI due to the MS as that's explicitly noted to have NPI in older titles, and idk why he'd lose that as that's an intrinsic quality of it. It might be a case of game not aligning with lore due to effort (like why program an interaction exclusive to the MS?). Though every other weapon bar maybe a few of the classic ones get ****** over 100%, and the MS and shit is only if we feel generous.
 
Dalesean027 said:
We don't have evidence poes are intangible in this one unfortunately or at least not from what I remember.

The soldier spirits he can't even touch same as the poes
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The Bargainer Statue describes the Poes as lost souls IIRC, would that help to make a case for NPI, since Link would be essentially gathering souls.
 
The issue is less that and more are those souls noncorporal?
While its usually self evident, you DO gotta prove theyre intangible, most verses tend to prove that so it's a given.
 
Yeah we unfortunately need statements or feats, I need Robbie to go
"Yikes, I can't even hold it Link!! So this is a poe?"
 
I mean, aren’t souls by their very nature and definition noncorporal? Wouldn’t the default assumption be that they’re intangible unless stated otherwise?
 
Nope. Fiction is fiction (i can think multiple verses that have souls being nit completely noncorporal and made of particles) and souls fundamentally vary drastically depending on mythos, religion and so on so there doesn't actually exist a true foundation. Hell in some religions souls would qualify for NEP even. Poe souls in BOTW seem to take more from will o wisps than conventional souls anyway, and those tend to be conveyed more as fire.

Which is to say, idk we just need a statement or feat ig, doesnt need to be big, just one offhand line is good enough, like poes from OOT could pass through walls, objects and more even while visible.
 
fight 7-C demons
Be 10-C, maybe 10-B
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Honestly unfortunate that the dudes who fought a 7-C demon, and also have casual High 8-C+, 8-A and 8-B feat cap so low.
 
I did that very boss fight, looking for feats in fact, but when I did it it wasn't nearly that visually impressive. Also I used the cannons.
 
Dude it's the same in every game, the size of it doesnt vary, and the particle effects and breaking doesnt change

Wtf are you on about
And you telling me you were actively looking for feats but didnt press the A button to do the thing the game explicitly told you to do.
 
Probably in regards to ability progression conflicting with the open world gameplay structure but eh, I've dealt with worse
I swear FFXIV is a complete mess in regards to powerscaling, canon, crossover with other FF games, and the fact that the devs still haven't explained if Shards are more like planets or parallel universes.
 
This might seem kinda silly, but how do you guys mentally handle the fact that our rivals (Final Fantasy verse) beat us in just about everything? Like, every single category from cosmology to hax to weaponry to amount of OP characters. It's kinda extremely stressful knowing they beat us in every single VS match you could make between the two.
 
On an actual serious note (Ignoring the whole "rivalry" thing because the only Zelda vs FF fight anyone gives a shit about is Link vs Cloud and maybe a whopping 4 people who might kinda care about Ganondorf vs Garland or something).

Final Fantasy has so many verses beat in every way it's not even funny, Zelda ain't a stand out among that long list so it's not like it's specifically anything noteworthy that on average a FF character dunks on a Zelda character, on average they dunk on most characters from most franchises. Plus these are fictional characters end of the day, the knowledge that the average FF villain solos Zelda doesn't cause me stress or anything, I ain't staying awake in bed at 3am because I can't stand that Vivi ragdolls all incarnations of princess Zelda put together. Well I am actually awake in bed at 3am but that's because my last 5 shift weeks have done severe damage to my sleep schedule lmao.
 
If you ask me, even Link vs Cloud has died down enormously as time went on. The whole thing was which game was better Ocarina of Time vs Final Fantasy VII, yadda yadda, but as more entries in each franchise came out and all that died down and so did the discussion of Link vs Cloud.

Also, I wouldn't lose sleep over something like a verse being stronger than our preferred one, it's not like everyone buys our stats for FF anyways so it's not even set in stone. Besides, plenty of franchises pimpslap FF: Persona, Xenoblade, Kingdom Hearts, Granblue, etc.

I mean, doesn't detract from Zelda being good games or anything (unlike FF which has had controversial game after another since FFX). Like, I friggin love Berserk and Vagabond, but Guts and Musashi get ragged by all their matchups, doesn't make those manga any worse.
 
Tyloxtus said:
This might seem kinda silly, but how do you guys mentally handle the fact that our rivals (Final Fantasy verse) beat us in just about everything? Like, every single category from cosmology to hax to weaponry to amount of OP characters. It's kinda extremely stressful knowing they beat us in every single VS match you could make between the two.
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Don’t worry we are cooking up something good to beat those losers before the next FF and Zelda game releases
 
TartaChocholate said:
I mean, doesn't detract from Zelda being good games or anything (unlike FF which has had controversial game after another since FFX). Like, I friggin love Berserk and Vagabond, but Guts and Musashi get ragged by all their matchups, doesn't make those manga any worse.
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Really? Never heard of them making a mid game since 14. Only heard minor complaints ever since, meanwhile all but 2 of my friends have dropped TotK way before finishing.
 
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