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Kirito vs Sonic: Rematch... Again

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Smashtwig said:
@Star

I swear that's not what happened man. Is it different in the Novel because I only watched that one anime scene where he did that to the bunch of people he froze (again, still arguing that it isn't opening move, because multiple people or big things are his excuse for doing so) and then the ice flower things bloom on the iced people to drain em, they have to be frozen with the ice rose thingies first
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Yes. The Blue Rose Sword’s Release Recollection created roses on the frozen people. And then Kirito just sapped their lives making them log out.
 
Star_King_Demon_Lord said:
BruH. What does Sonic have against Kirito while PoH literally waited 2 years to fight Kirito?
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You said PoH broke out because of his willpower. Sonic has supernatural willpower so why can he not break out just the same. Or does the target specifically need to have something against Kirito? Did AH also have something against Kirito?

As it stands, you haven’t proven that Kirito freezes the targets mind, there have been multiple cases of his targets getting hit and not being unconscious and that you can break out with brute strength. Hell, where was Bercouli being KO’d vs Eugeo? Or when Alice and Kirito got hit by Eugeo? Being frozen doesn’t freeze anybody’s mind at all.

Edit: Decided to look at the reasoning for Sonic’s mind hax resistance and found that he resists conceptual mind hax. Kirito isn’t doing shit to his mind 😭 😭 😭
 
Star_King_Demon_Lord said:
Yes. But this that was a different key. This key are using for Kirito is a freeze that is colder than space.
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Which Sonic also resists in his base form. Sonic can literally just casually chill in outer space and resist these tempreatures with absolutely no negative effects, and Super Sonic's resistance to cold tempreatures is vastly above Base Sonic's
 
AnonymousBlank said:
You said PoH broke out because of his willpower. Sonic has supernatural willpower so why can he not break out just the same. Or does the target specifically need to have something against Kirito? Did AH also have something against Kirito?
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Yes. The Abyssal Horror did have something against Kirito since that was their second time fighting and almost died the last time they fought.
 
Also, a little side note, but I've read about Perfect Weapon Control Art a bit. It is a Sacred Art, which just like Incarnation (which is reality warping) is based on imagination. Why isn't it a RW again?
For reference:
Incarnation - the ability to change the state of the world through pure willpower and imagination.
Sacred Arts - they are just words used to arrange thoughts and guide the emotions of the caster to make use of one's imagination power.
 
Star_King_Demon_Lord said:
Yes. But this that was a different key. This key are using for Kirito is a freeze that is colder than space.
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Wait what. Now you're saying it's colder than space? Then why did AH not just perish if it's only resistant to space temp?

Star_King_Demon_Lord said:
Yes. The Blue Rose Sword’s Release Recollection created roses on the frozen people. And then Kirito just sapped their lives making them log out.
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I see. Looking at his profile though doesn't seem to be the case unless I'm illiterate. I'll ask more people that know this stuff.
 
MrKerf said:
Also, a little side note, but I've read about Perfect Weapon Control Art a bit. It is a Sacred Art, which just like Incarnation (which is reality warping) is based on imagination. Why isn't it a RW again?
For reference:
Incarnation - the ability to change the state of the world through pure willpower and imagination.
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That is definitely reality warping. Which Sonic resists
 
That’s fine. Didn’t say you had to drop everything and get them this very second, just so long as you provide them.

Also if you are busy with irl stuff, vs debating doesn’t seem like a good use of your time lol.
 
MrKerf said:
My point was that both abilities should have the same "power source", being reality warping.
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OK. Sacred Arts is not Reality Warping. Incarnation is the only thing that includes Reality Warping. Enhance Armament and Release Recollection is also not Reality Warping. Enhance Armament and Release Recollection is just a power that comes from the users’ swords that does not include Reality Warping.
 
MrKerf said:
Also, a little side note, but I've read about Perfect Weapon Control Art a bit. It is a Sacred Art, which just like Incarnation (which is reality warping) is based on imagination. Why isn't it a RW again?
For reference:
Incarnation - the ability to change the state of the world through pure willpower and imagination.
Sacred Arts - they are just words used to arrange thoughts and guide the emotions of the caster to make use of one's imagination power.
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Sacred Arts are not RW. Incarnation is RW, but Sacred Arts are not related to said effect, people can use Sacred Arts without knowing how to use Incarnation after all.
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
About 2:50
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Also, about this... it doesn't look like Resistance to Ice Manipulation... It looks more like Resistance to Paralysis Inducement or Lightning Manipulation. And it took Sonic seconds to break out of the "ice". Kirito will simply freeze Sonic and sap his life away within those few seconds...
 
Theuser789 said:
Sonic already has resistance to ice manip in base, why is this being argued here?
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Kirito has a freeze colder than space... and he can simply sap the life of his opponent afterwards. And the videos that was sent, it took Sonic seconds to get out of the ice which some of them looks more like Resistance to Paralysis Inducement or Lightning Manipulation. And some of them has Sonic breaking out of Ice Manipulation but it took a few seconds for Sonic to break out of it. Within those few seconds, Kirito can simply freeze and sap the life out of Sonic.
 
Pretty sure Sonic resists absorption with his optional equipment, also Sonic doesn't even get frozen by space, so the ice he gets a "few seconds" stuck as would be colder than it
 
Star_King_Demon_Lord said:
which some of them looks more like Resistance to Paralysis Inducement or Lightning Manipulation.
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Argument from ignorance, you don't know Advance 3 so you make those claims, in Advance 3 the "being frozen" sprite is like that, this happens even in the ice level, that's why it's colored blue
 
Theuser789 said:
Pretty sure Sonic resists absorption with his optional equipment, also Sonic doesn't even get frozen by space, so the ice he gets a "few seconds" stuck as would be colder than it
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The sapping isn't Absorption. It's Life Manipulation. :/
Theuser789 said:
also Sonic doesn't even get frozen by space, so the ice he gets a "few seconds" stuck as would be colder than it
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Colder than space is colder than Subzero
 
At this point whole Kirito argument is 50% fallacy because half of it refuses to accept sonic's resistance.
 
You are the freaking OP, this site also doesn't allow OP's to be biased towards someone, nor stonewall then to oblivion
 
Except those votes haven't been debunked, the thread is just being stonewalled.

I think grace has around an hour left, after that, as long as the votes are still 3 ahead in favor of sonic, it can be added, and I really doubt Kirito is going to gain 12 votes
 
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