FKT AP and Durability Revisions [Chapters ~320-420]

[Arc7Kuroi]

FKT Invasion AP and Durability
The Final Arrancar Saga AP/Dura Threadshou. So this thread is broken down into like 3 sections. One focused on some calc implemenation/vague Espada stuff. One is all the characters. And one is the tidbits from SAFWY that aid in scaling.

Spoiler: Non-Character Specific Stuff

Cero Oscuras​

Our Cero Oscuras calc measures the yield of the small lower portion of Ulquiorra’s Cero Oscuras that grazed the dome of Las Noches. Meaning that the accepted value is actually less than what the actual yield of the attack would be. The databooks give us further insight into what Ulquiorra’s Cero Oscuras’s full potential could be. As per IMade’s translation, which I second as an accurate translation, Ulquiorra’s Cero Oscuras can actually just straight up destroy Las Noches. So, I believe that we should utilize the vaporization of Las Noches for quantifying Res Ulq’s CO, since if a small portion of CO can vaporize a sizable chunk of LN, then all of CO should very likely be capable of vaporizing all of CO. Basically, the calc would be At least 6-B+, likely 6-A, as the portion of CO calc’d was ~65 Teratons and the destruction of all of LN is 2 Petatons.

Why do I think the statement means the attack would destroy all of LN, is the question I imagine the opposition is asking first. I’m simply invoking Occam’s Razor. For example, if someone says “Bijuudama can destroy a mountain”, “the Etherion Cannon can destroy a country”, “Frieza can destroy a planet”, and “the Gran Rey Cero can destroy Las Noches”, we assume that they are talking about the object in its entirety, and not some vague unknown amount of it. The majority of the time when referring to an object, we are speaking about the object as a whole. Therefore, it is more likely than not, that by “the Cero Oscuras can destroy Las Noches” they are referring to the structure in its entirety. However, I’m not going to claim that without a shadow of a doubt, Res Ulq’s CO can vaporize all of LN, just that it is a likely interpretation. Hence, why I believe that calc should be “At least the yield from grazing LN, likely the yield from the destroying LN”.

To quote our very own standards on “likely” ratings: Should be used to list a statistic for a character with some basis, but inconclusive due to the justification being vague or non-definitive. The probability of the justification in question for being reliable should be favorable. The vaporize all of Las Noches end absolutely has some basis that is favorable (less than half of CO was able to vaporize a sizable chunk of LN and the databooks state it can destroy LN). However, again it is not definitive, hence why the “likely” rating is in order here.

Gran Rey Cero​

In the same vein of Cero Oscuras, Gran Rey Cero would be in need of some kind of partial upgrade. Discussion on what I’m about to say here can wait a bit, because it is contingent on the Cero Oscuras stuff. Anyway, presupposing we conclude that Cero Oscuras for Res Ulq is in some way partially scaling to the full vaporization of Las Noches, the GRC for characters of Res Ulq’s caliber or stronger would have their GRC scale to the full vaporization flat out. Reason being is that GRC is a more potent Cero than the Cero Oscuras (we all know this, it’s been in my recent revisions, it’s accepted, and has been on the profiles forever now). Rather simple, I will be addressing GRC vaporization for characters weaker than Res Ulq later with Deceived, but for now the calc should look something like this: 6-B, up to 6-A. Where the 6-B would be the GRC value used for characters weaker than Res Ulq, and the 6-A would be the GRC value used for characters as strong or stronger than Res Ulq.

Lanza Del Relampago​

Not really important for scaling, but accepted calcs need to be implemented in CRTs.

Espada​

It is very heavily implied that all the Espada are above the Privaron Espada. Ichigo interprets Dordoni’s statements about the Privaron being stripped of rank as the Privaron being weaker, and Dordoni doesn’t even correct him. Additionally, Nnoitora claims that the current Espada have gotten way stronger, implying they’re in a different league than the previous Espada. Lastly, Masked supports this notion by claiming that the Espada are above all the other Arrancar. All of this is to say that any Espada would be more powerful than any of the Privaron Espada. Masked also tells us how the Espada are ranked according to spiritual power/combat ability and Unmasked flat out states that lower numbers for the Espada correlates to higher power. This means that Espada with lower numbers are more powerful (have higher spiritual power) than those with higher numbers.

Spoiler: Characters

Charlotte​

Charlotte believes they are Barragan’s top Fraccion. Charlotte begins to overpower Yumichika in base. Charlotte decimates Yumichika with their beautiful form. Charlotte is also an Adjuchas Fraccion, which would make them stronger than Gillian Fraccion like Ilfordt, as the databook states that Adjuchas possess several times greater combat ability than Gillians.

Yumichika =< Charlotte < Res Charlotte
Res Charlotte > Res Ilfordt
Charlotte > Ilfordt

Yumichika​

Clashes with Charlotte.

Yumichika =< Charlotte

Izuru​

Izuru cuts Abirama’s face mid conversation. Izuru makes Abirama heavier in opposition to his blade to decapitate and kill Abirama.

Izuru ~ Abirama < Res Abirama

Hisagi​

Hisagi easily overpowers the 5th through 3rd seat level Findorr. Shuhei cuts through Captain Findorr with Kazeshini. Shuhei is able to kill Res Tosen by catching him off guard. Not really quantifiable in any way, but worth noting nonetheless.

Hisagi < Lieutenant Findorr < Res Findorr < Captain Findorr < Shikai Hisagi

Abirama​

Resurreccion Abirama can blow through Izuru’s Kido. Abirama is also an Adjuchas Fraccion, which would make him stronger than Gillian Fraccion like Ilfordt, as the databook states that Adjuchas possess several times greater combat ability than Gillians.

Izuru ~ Abirama =< Res Abirama
Res Abirama > Res Ilfordt
Abirama > Ilfordt

Findorr​

Assistant Captain level Findorr was pressing Shuhei. Resurreccion Findorr blocks Shuhei’s attacks. Res Findorr can block the blunt strikes from Kazeshini. Findorr is also an Adjuchas Fraccion, which would make him stronger than Gillian Fraccion like Ilfordt, as the databook states that Adjuchas possess several times greater combat ability than Gillians.

5th Seat Findorr < 4th Seat Findorr < 3rd Seat Findorr < Shuhei < Lieutenant Findorr < Res Findorr < Captain Findorr
Res Findorr > Res Ilfordt
Lieutenant Findorr > Ilfordt

Poww​

Off screened Ikkaku. Poww also sends Komamura flying with a grand slam. Albeit, Komamura suffers no injuries and later catches a punch from Res Poww, so Poww’s AP probably shouldn’t scale to Komamura. Res Poww was unharmed by Komamura’s judo flip. Poww is also an Adjuchas Fraccion, which would make him stronger than Gillian Fraccion like Ilfordt, as the databook states that Adjuchas possess several times greater combat ability than Gillians. Poww’s Resurreccion increases his power proportional to his size.

Ikkaku < Poww < Res Poww
Res Poww durability > Komamura
Res Poww > Res Ilfordt
Poww > Ilfordt

Komamura​

Komamura sends Poww flying with a punch and judo flips Res Poww. Albeit, like Komamura, Poww is never damaged by Komamura’s punches, so his base AP probably shouldn’t scale to Poww. Bankai Komamura one shots Res Poww. Komamura’s Bankai is superior to Ikkaku’s. Blocks a strike from Tosen. Bankai Komamura shatters Hollow Tosen’s arm.

Komamura durability > Res Poww
Bankai Komamura > Bankai Ikkaku
Komamura durability > Tosen
Bankai Komamura > Hollow Tosen

Iba​

Iba comfortably beats down an injured Ikkaku. Now, Ikkaku isn’t healthy, but he’s healthy enough to fight back and still gets folded, so Iba should probably be relative.

Ikkaku < likely Iba

Soi Fon​

Clashed with Ggio Vega. Soi Fon can kick Ggio around. Upon getting serious, she smacks and no diffs Ggio. Her Bankai is able to harm Barragan even though some of it was aged away. Unmasked tells us that Soi Fon purposefully let herself get ragdolled by Ggio to test the strength of Resurreccion. This means that Ggio doesn’t actually scale to Soi Fon.

Casual Soi Fon ~ Ggio < Res Ggio < Muscle Ggio < Soi Fon
Jakuho Raikoben > Res Barragan’s Respira

Rangiku​

Rangiku cuts Apache with Haineko. Rangiku can block Apache’s tron ring.

Rangiku ~ Apache

Tres Bestias​

The three goober gals blow through Haineko, portrayed with some kind of equality between the three. Tres Bestias have off screen bloodied Rangiku. Apache can knock around Rangiku. Tres Bestias are also Adjuchas Fraccion, which would make them stronger than Gillian Fraccion like Ilfordt, as the databook states that Adjuchas possess several times greater combat ability than Gillians.

Tres Bestias > Ilfordt
Res Tres Bestias > Res Ilfordt
Tres Bestias ~ Rangiku

Nirrge​

Nirrge overwhelms Omaeda. He does it in Resurreccion too. Nirrge is also an Adjuchas Fraccion, which would make him stronger than Gillian Fraccion like Ilfordt, as the databook states that Adjuchas possess several times greater combat ability than Gillians.

Omaeda < Nirrge < Res Nirrge
Res Nirrge > Res Ilfordt
Nirrge > Ilfordt

Ggio Vega​

Smacked around Soi Fon. Res Ggio is able to toss around and smack up Soi Fon. Now, all these feats are a bit misleading, since the databooks tell us that Soi Fon let herself get pushed back by Ggio just to gauge how strong Resurreccion was. Ggio is also an Adjuchas Fraccion, which would make him stronger than Gillian Fraccion like Ilfordt, as the databook states that Adjuchas possess several times greater combat ability than Gillians.

Casual Soi Fon ~ Ggio < Res Ggio < Muscle Ggio
Res Ggio > Res Ilfordt
Ggio > Ilfordt

Omaeda​

Harms Res Nirrge with Gegetsuburi.

Res Nirrge ~ Shikai Omaeda

Toshiro​

Toshiro can clash with Halibel. Albeit we found out she wasn’t serious yet. Bankai Toshiro can withstand attacks from a serious base Halibel. Toshiro is able to freeze Res Halibel’s attacks. However, that can be chalked up to the ice manipulation and temperature of Toshiro’s ice being able to freeze the water, rather than Toshiro having comparable power to Res Halibel.

Bankai Toshiro’s ice =< Halibel

Momo​

Momo is able to harm Apache and catch the Tres Bestias in her explosions with Tobiume.

Momo’s explosions ~ Tres Bestias

Shunsui​

Shunsui can clash with Stark. Shunsui’s Shikai can harm Res Stark. The reason the damage fluctuates from a nick to a massive gash is because the riskier the color is for Shunsui the more damage the cut will do. So, gray (a non risky color) had its damage minimized by Iro Oni, while black (a super risky color) had its damage maximized. However, Shunsui first has to cut Stark for the damage to be minimized or maximized, aka he can cut Stark. Shunsui cracks Escudo. Thanks to the abilities of Shunsui’s Shikai, he was able to surpass Res Stark.

Shunsui ~ Stark
Shikai Shunsui ~ Res Stark

Ayon​

Ayon decides to help Rangiku shed some pounds and bullies the other Lieutenants.

Ayon > Rangiku, Momo, Iba, and Hisagi

Yamamoto​

Yamamoto educates some of the youngins in his superiority. Yamamoto’s Shikai is the ultimate Zanpakuto, to the point where Aizen concedes inferiority to Yamamoto, and created an entire Arrancar just to seal the flames of his Shikai. Yamamoto disintegrates Resurreccion Wonderweiss. No Shinigami born in the last 1000 years is stronger than Yamamoto. Yamamoto is able to survive his own Jigoku Enetsu attack, albeit with major injuries. Despite his injuries, Yamamoto is able to wound Aizen with Itto Kaso. Yamamoto is flat out stated to be the strongest Shinigami in every way.

Yamamoto > Tres Bestias and Ayon
Yamamoto > Res Wonderweiss
Yamamoto > All Shinigami
Shikai Yama >~ base Yama > Aizen
Injured Yama Kido ~ Aizen

Halibel​

As per the Espada section, Halibel is stronger than Ulquiorra. Halibel gets serious and overwhelms Bankai Toshiro. She is able to push back and harm Bankai Toshiro. Res Halibel isn’t harmed by Bankai Toshiro’s attacks and is able to vaporize Toshiro’s ice. Despite being frozen by Toshiro’s strongest attack, she remains unharmed. She blocks an attack from base Lisa. Halibel was able to fight Hollow Lisa, Hollow Hiyori, and Bankai Toshiro in a 3v1. We don’t actually see any of the fight to determine who was doing the best, but it’s safe to say that Halibel at the bare minimum has the skill to fight evenly with them.

Res Halibel > Halibel >= Bankai Toshiro
Res Halibel > Res Ulq
Halibel > Ulq
Res Halibel durability > Lisa

Ulquiorra​

As per the Espada section, Ulquiorra is more powerful than Nnoitra. Ulquiorra can harm and press Bankai Ichigo. Ulquiorra is barely nicked by Bankai Ichigo’s attack. Ulquiorra gets angry when Ichigo says he’s more human, and completely overwhelms Ichigo. So, Ulquiorra was already slightly superior without going all out, but demonstrates how superior he is to Ichigo once he is goaded into fighting seriously. Ulquiorra is then able to easily block Bankai Ichigo’s attack. Even when Ichigo Hollowfies, Ulquiorra can block his attack physically, and it’s only because Ichigo amps himself further with a Black Getsuga that Ulquiorra starts to become overwhelmed. Meaning that, via powerscaling, it’s consistent for base Ulquiorra to be physically comparable to Hollow Ichigo. Ulquiorra’s Resurreccion is so strong that it could decapitate Hollow Mask Ichigo, and cut through his Black Getsuga. Res Ulquiorra blocks a Black Getsuga and takes no damage. Ulquiorra blows away Ichigo’s Hollow Mask with a Cero Oscuras which Uryu senses. The Uryu part is important for my next claim. Uryu senses Ulquiorra’s Segunda Etapa and claims it is superior to his Resurreccion’s Cero Oscuras, by claiming it is beyond anything he’s ever felt. SE Ulquiorra is able to shatter Ichigo’s entire Hollow Mask with his physical strikes and kills Ichigo. SE Ulquiorra performing the same feat (of shattering the Hollow Mask) with his SE physicals is blatant support for Uryu’s claim as well, since Res Ulq needed Cero Oscuras to perform that feat. SE Ulquiorra effortlessly overpowers Uryu and Orihime. Lanza is Ulq’s most difficult attack to control, Ichigo needs to sharpen his claws to destroy it, and it is able to cut through Ichigo’s Hierro while he’s off guard. Being that Ulquiorra has no issue controlling the power of Cero Oscuras, his Lanza would naturally be stronger. This is consistent with Ichigo needing to sharpen his claws, which would amp his grip’s piercing power, to destroy it, and Lanza being able to cut through an off guard Ichigo. Unmasked states that Res Ulq could evade Hollow Ichigo’s attacks without injury. I’d say this is a speed statement, but the “uninjured” to me sounds like he’s evading the damage, aka he’s no-selling the attacks. Ulquiorra’s Resurreccion increases his offensive ability, who would have guessed.

Bankai Ichigo < Ulquiorra < Hollow Bankai Ichigo’s Black Getsuga > Hollow Bankai Ichigo
Hollow Bankai Ichigo’s Black Getsuga < Res Ulq < Res Ulq’s CO (10x) < SE Ulq < SE Ulq’s CO (10x) < Lanza del Relampago
Uryu and Shun Shin Rikka < SE Ulq
Res Ulq > Res Nnoitra
Ulq > Nnoitra
Off-Guard ½ FH Ichigo < Lanza =< ½ FH Ichigo

Orihime​

Orihime blocks a serious Ulq’s attack.

Shun Shun Rikka ~ Ulquiorra

Yammy​

As per the Espada section, Resurreccion Yammy would be stronger than Resurreccion Stark. Yammy gives Loly and Menoly the Grimmjow treatment. Yammy smashes through Rudbornn, and has been storing power in order to perform a full release. Essentially, as Yammy gets bigger he gets stronger. Res Yammy casually off screens Rukia, Chad, and Renji. Res Yammy is only nicked by Striped Mask Ichigo’s Getsuga. Res Yammy claims he is above Ulquiorra, Nnoitra, and Grimmjow, while Ichigo doesn’t refute that claim. There are some more statements in databooks and novels that further contextualize this claim, that I will get into later. Res Yammy is able to send eyepatch Zaraki flying with a punch, albeit Zaraki was mid conversation with Ichigo, and thus likely not on guard. This is supported by Zaraki being unphased by that punch. We see that Yammy was strong enough to wound no eyepatch Zaraki and Byakuya with his maximal Resurreccion. This would mean that Yammy’s strongest attacks he uses in character, would have to be capable of harming Zaraki and Byakuya. Yammy’s strength increases proportional to his size in Resurreccion. Yammy is stated multiple times to be the strongest of the Espada, but it also says that his statement about Ulquiorra, Nnoitra, and Grimmjow may have come from a place of grief. Now that isn’t to say Yammy isn’t stronger than those 3, the numerous statements of him being the strongest indicate otherwise. In fact, the databook calling him the strongest Espada period would indicate Yammy is superior to Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra, as the omniscient narrator has knowledge of Ulquiorra’s second release. Yammy sensed the finale of Ulquiorra’s battle with pesquisa, which can evaluate power levels. No more “wah Yammy can’t sense Ulquiorra’s power because he’s bad at pesquisa” arguments anymore. Yammy’s Angry Resurreccion doubles his striking strength and AP (so his punches and Ceros and like are doubled) and he surpasses Grimmjow, Nnoitra, and Ulquiorra. So, yes, Yammy is stronger than SE Ulquiorra, it is blatantly stated.

Stored Power Yammy > Loly and Menoly
Stored Power Yammy > Yammy
Stored Power Yammy > Res Rudbornn
Res Yammy > Res Stark
Res Yammy > Rukia, Chad, Renji
Res Yammy physicals ~ ½ Bankai Ichigo < ½ Striped Mask Ichigo (10x) ~ Res Yammy durability
Res Yammy physicals ~ off guard eyepatch Zaraki
Max Res Yammy’s CO >= no eyepatch Zaraki and Byakuya
Angry Res Yammy physicals = 2x Res Yammy physicals
Angry Res Yammy physicals > Res Grimmjow, Res Nnoitra, and SE Ulquiorra

Uryu​

Uryu pierces Yammy’s Hierro with an arrow and burns him with an anti-arrancar mine. We don't really see any blood though.

Mayuri Bomb ~ Stored Power Yammy ~ possibly Uryu

Ichigo​

While Hollowfied, Ichigo’s Black Getsuga cracked Ulquiorra’s blade. Hollow Ichigo also blocked a Cero from Ulquiorra. Ichigo’s Black Getsuga is a pretty big amp, enough for Ulquiorra to compare it to Cero Oscuras. I’m not going to propose that the Black Getsuga is a 10x amp just yet, I need to evaluate it throughout the remainder of the series to see if that is even consistent before I claim Black Getsuga amp = Cero Oscuras amp. Full Hollow Ichigo demolishes Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra. Ichigo’s regular Cero is overpowering Ulquiorra’s Cero Oscuras, he’s crushing Lanza with his bare hands, and he’s overall tearing Ulquiorra apart. After his fight with Ulquiorra, Ichigo’s Black Getsuga is able to quash Res Yammy’s Cero Oscuras. However, that Cero Oscuras wasn’t fully formed as it isn’t like Ichigo actually clashed with the laser, he blew it up before Yammy could fire it. We see with Ulquiorra too, that you can use a weaker attack (SE Ulq’s CO) to explode a stronger Cero (FH Ichigo’s Cero). Furthermore, I believe it is inconsistent to scale Ichigo’s Black Getsuga to a 10x amp, given that later Gin is able to block one with moderate injuries at best, despite being relative to Ichigo’s physicals.

Bankai Ichigo can block and halt Yammy’s punch. Striped Mask Ichigo slams Res Yammy down with a Black Getsuga. Bankai Ichigo cuts through Res Yammy’s Bala. Ichigo without his spirit energy restored as similar amounts to Unohana. For those who have seen the TYBW, that is quite insane, it would have been crazy to see a non mentally nerfed FKT Ichigo in action. While Ichigo’s garbs were tattered, he was only at half of his power. Striped Mask Ichigo is able to harm Aizen; however, it is revealed that Aizen was off guard. Bankai Ichigo can defend against a barrage from Gin. Ichigo wounds Gin with a Black Getsuga. Ichigo’s Full Hollowfication is a superior amp to his Striped Hollow Mask. Butterfly Aizen cannot perceive Dangai Ichigo’s power, and Ichigo effortlessly dominates Aizen. Dangai Ichigo slashes through Ultrafragor. Final Getsuga Tenshou Ichigo is so much stronger than Aizen, Aizen likens it to a higher mathematical dimension, and then Ichigo one shots Aizen with Mugetsu. Ichigo’s Final Getsuga Tenshou is the ultimate technique, far surpassing everything.

Unmasked states that Gin’s statement regarding Ichigo being able to sense Condom Aizen means that Ichigo has equal power to that Aizen. This obviously isn’t referring to the Ichigo that is mentally nerfed by his anxiety and confusion regarding his Hollow Mask, and would rather be referring to a hypothetical resolved Ichigo that was at full power. This might not be too crazy either, when half of Ichigo’s Bankai power was on the same level as Unohana. By feats Ichigo is obviously not that strong; however, it is worth noting that his power fluctuates wildly with his mental state, and we know he was at one of his lowest points around this time as his inner world was sunken underwater and the skyscrapers were reduced to small houses, indicating that Ichigo had fallen into despair.

Ulquiorra ~ Hollow Bankai Ichigo < Hollow Bankai Ichigo’s Black Getsuga
SE Ulq’s CO < ½ FH Ichigo < FH Ichigo (2x)
½ Bankai Ichigo ~ Res Yammy AP
½ Bankai Ichigo ~ Unohana
Striped Mask Ichigo ~ off guard Aizen
Bankai Ichigo ~ Gin
Mugetsu > Dangai Ichigo > Ultrafragor
Condom Aizen ~ likely non-nerfed Striped Mask Ichigo > likely non-nerfed Bankai Ichigo > Unohana

Barragan​

As per the Espada section, Barragan would be more powerful than Halibel. Barragan is easily overwhelming Soi Fon. Barragan aged away Jakuho Raikoben.

Res Barragan > Res Halibel
Barragan > Halibel
Barragan > Soi Fon

Wonderweiss​

Wonderweiss pierces a surprised Jushiro and shatters Toshiro’s Bankai ice with just a shout. Wonderweiss is able to turn the tables against Mashiro, once her Hollow Mask time begins to run out. Resurreccion Wonderweiss is able to harm Yamamoto by barraging him with a hundred punches. Albeit, Yamamoto wasn’t really defending against it, and just let Wonderweiss hit him.

Wonderweiss > surprised Jushiro
Wonderweiss > Bankai Toshiro
Wonderweiss > Mashiro
Yamamoto ~ possibly Res Wonderweiss 100 punch barrage

Stark​

As per the Espada section, Stark is stronger than Barragan. His Cero burned Shunsui. Resurreccion Stark potentially ate an attack from Hollow Love without taking damage, or he dodged it. I reckon he probably dodged it, because he later says that a Cero isn’t enough for people as strong as Hollow Love and Hollow Rose. Stark’s wolves’ explosions can destroy Rose and Love’s masks. Unmasked states that when Stark wanted to draw out Shunsui’s Bankai power, he displayed his true power (Resurreccion) worthy of the title 1. This would imply that Stark’s Resurreccion contains enough power to make him literally make him stronger than any Espada below the rank of 1. Stark being worthy of the number 1 spot among the Espada also indicates he would be superior to SE Ulquiorra, as Ulquiorra has no indication of being worthy of such a position.

Stark ~ Shunsui
Res Stark > Res Barragan
Stark > Barragan
Res Stark’s Wolves’ Explosions > Hollow Love and Hollow Rose
Res Stark > SE Ulq

Tosen​

Tosen cut the forehead of Shinji. After Aizen announces the Espada are not strong enough to fight under him, he acknowledges Gin and Tosen, implying Gin and Tosen are strong enough to fight under him. Hollow Tosen gives Shuhei and Shikai Komamura the hands, and even nicks Bankai Komamura. As per a prior thread, Hollowfication is accepted as an at least 5x stat amp. Resurreccion Tosen obliterates Bankai Komamura.

Tosen ~ Shinji
Espada < likely Tosen
Shuhei and Shikai Komamura < Hollow Tosen > 5x Tosen
Res Tosen > Bankai Komamura

Hiyori​

Able to push back Res Halibel with Lisa while Hollowfied. Albeit, Halibel was mid attack against Toshiro, not expecting them to show up. As such, I hesitate to utilize this for scaling.

Lisa​

Able to push back Res Halibel with Hiyori while Hollowfied. Albeit, Halibel was mid attack against Toshiro, not expecting them to show up. As such, I hesitate to utilize this for scaling. Hollow Lisa seems to be able to match Res Halibel’s strikes with her own. So, as established in another CRT, Hollow Masks are superior amps to Bankai. Thus, I will backscale her base by 10x, since that is the high end for Bankai amps, so her base stats shouldn’t be far weaker than 10x below her Hollow state.

Possibly Hollow Lisa ~ Res Halibel
Lisa = 1/10 Hollow Lisa

Mashiro​

Hollow Mashiro annihilates Wonderweiss and Fura. So, as established in another CRT, Hollow Masks are superior amps to Bankai. Thus, I will backscale her base by 10x, since that is the high end for Bankai amps, so her base stats shouldn’t be far weaker than 10x below her Hollow state.

Hollow Mashiro > Wonderweiss and Fura
Mashiro = 1/10 Hollow Mashiro

Hachigen​

Hachigen’s Bakudo tank Jakuho Raikoben.

Bakudo ~ Jakuho Raikoben

Love​

Shikai Love can push back a rattled Stark. Albeit, Stark isn’t injured by this. Hollow Love is too powerful for Res Stark’s Cero. So, as established in another CRT, Hollow Masks are superior amps to Bankai. Thus, I will backscale his base by 10x, since that is the high end for Bankai amps, so his base stats shouldn’t be far weaker than 10x below his Hollow state.

Love ~ rattled Res Stark
Hollow Love > Res Stark’s Cero
Love = 1/10 Hollow Love

Rose​

Hollow Rose is too powerful for Res Stark’s Cero. So, as established in another CRT, Hollow Masks are superior amps to Bankai. Thus, I will backscale his base by 10x, since that is the high end for Bankai amps, so his base stats shouldn’t be far weaker than 10x below his Hollow state.

Hollow Rose > Res Stark’s Cero
Rose = 1/10 Hollow Rose

Shinji​

Shinji is able to clash with Gin, and it’s implied they’ve been fighting for a while. Shinji is able to wound Aizen by catching him off guard with his Shikai. Shinji doesn’t scale to base Aizen though since he gets one shot by Aizen later.

Shinji ~ Gin
Shinji ~ off guard Aizen

Aizen​

Aizen is comfortably beyond all the Espada. Aizen cuts down Shinji in a single blow. His Millon Escudo blocks Ichigo’s Black Getsuga. Aizen is demonstrably superior to Striped Mask Ichigo. Aizen beats the dog out of Komamura. Gin describes how Aizen’s raw power is what brought the Espada together and how it is beyond precaution. Aizen drops Love and Rose. Aizen nulls Nigeki Kisatsu with his raw spirit energy. Aizen cuts through Soi Fon, Shunsui, Shinji, and Toshiro. Aizen pierces Yamamoto, but that could just be because Yamamoto wanted to be pierced so he could confirm Aizen wasn’t an illusion. Aizen is able to easily swipe away Striped Mask Ichigo. Once Aizen starts to evolve, he slashes Kisuke and also states his powers were unequaled in Soul Society. Aizen believes his pawns are weak. His pawns here would be the Espada. Aizen was stronger than everyone else. This isn’t hyper literal, as it is contradicted by a few less vague pieces of information, like Ichigo no-diffing Aizen, Aizen conceding inferiority to Yamamoto, etc. However, nonetheless, it is indicative that Aizen is among the strongest in the verse. Millon Escudo name is literal, and it’s made of 1 million shields.

Condom Aizen repels Isshin, Kisuke, and Yoruichi. Condom Aizen is able to easily block Kisuke and Yoruichi’s attacks. Isshin can’t sense Condom Aizen’s power, indicating that Aizen is at a different level of power. Condom Aizen gets serious and no diffs the Bleach Sannin. Mullet Aizen demonstrates that his power now surpasses that of reason. Aizen keeps his spiritual pressure lowered to the point where humans can sense him. This would mean that Aizen has lowered his power below his Condom form, since Isshin couldn’t sense the Condom state, but Tatsuki (who is far weaker than Isshin) could sense Mullet and Butterfly Aizen. Aizen erases part of Gin’s arm by barely grazing him, kills Gin, and transcends Hollows and Shinigami. Aizen again states he’s transcended Hollows and Shinigami. God Aizen is able to burn Dangai Ichigo’s arm with a Fragor. Ultra Fragor combines 12 Fragor into a single attack. Aizen had transcended everything with his final form. Obviously not including Ichigo’s Final Getsuga Tenshou. Condom Aizen wasn’t actually harmed by Isshin’s Getsuga. This just means that the toughness of Aizen’s cocoon of a shell isn’t as strong as Aizen’s actual power, and thus hurting the shell doesn’t put you on Aizen’s level. The Hogyoku has been granting Aizen’s wishes, and Aizen wished to evolve to the level of the Soul King, at which point he did reach that level of God (Soul King is God). This refers to Butterfly Aizen, as the description is accompanied by that form (you can see the wings next to the text). All of the Bleach Sannin’s attacks were in vain. Ultrafragor combines all the produced Fragor into a single attack as confirmed by the databook. I made an error in the last God Tier revision where I said it was just 6 Fragor, because I misinterpreted the last part of the sentence. When it says “produced by a single head” it’s not saying only the heads produce Fragor (we see that isn’t true with Fragor coming from the eyes), it is referencing the fact that the single Fragor Aizen fired earlier was produced by a single head. Aizen’s final form surpasses God (Soul King).

Aizen > All Espada
1 million times Escudo ~ Millon Escudo > Bankai Ichigo’s Black Getsuga
Striped Mask Ichigo < Aizen
Aizen > Bankai Komamura, Love, Rose, Soi Fon, Shikai Shunsui, Bankai Toshiro, Shinji
Yamamoto ~ possibly Aizen
Condom Aizen > Kisuke, Isshin, Yoruichi
Aizen < Condom Aizen < Mullet Aizen < Butterflyzen < God Aizen
Soul King ~ Butterflyzen > All Hollows and Shinigami
God Aizen < Ultrafragor (12x)

Gin​

After Aizen announces the Espada are not strong enough to fight under him, he acknowledges Gin and Tosen, implying Gin and Tosen are strong enough to fight under him. Cuts Hiyori in half. Blocks an attack from Bankai Ichigo. Gin is able to wound and push back Ichigo. Gin is able to break Ichigo’s Hollow Mask. However, he describes it as brittle and weak, and implies that it shouldn’t be so, which means that Ichigo’s mask likely isn’t as durable as it usually is. For that reason, and Ichigo being able to fight Gin fairly well with just his Bankai, I don’t think Gin should scale to Striped Mask Ichigo. Gin is able to disintegrate and “kill” Aizen with his real Bankai ability. Albeit, as per the Aizen section, this Aizen was massively nerfing himself, so obviously Gin doesn’t scale to Aizen. Buto Renjin is a 10x amp to his power.

Espada < likely Gin
Gin > Hiyori
Gin ~ Bankai Ichigo
Buto Renjin (10x) > Gin

Kensei​

Kensei stops a punch from Wonderweiss.

Kensei > Wonderweiss

Byakuya​

Byakuya seemingly burns Res Yammy with his Kido, but Yammy didn’t seem to be on guard. Harms Res Yammy alongside Zaraki. Killed Max Res Yammy with Zaraki.

Byakuya ~ Res Yammy durability

Zaraki​

Zaraki cuts off Res Yammy’s leg, but Yammy didn’t seem to be on guard. Zaraki with his eyepatch cuts off Res Yammy’s fingers. Harms Res Yammy alongside Byakuya. Killed Max Res Yammy with Byakuya. Zaraki’s kendo technique, Ryoudan, increases his AP several (at least 3) levels.

No Eyepatch Zaraki > Eyepatch Zaraki ~ Res Yammy durability
Zaraki’s Ryoudan (at least 3x) > Zaraki

Isshin​

Isshin flicks away Aizen. Isshin takes a Raikoho from Aizen without much damage, before Aizen reaches his limit. Isshin’s Getsuga cracks open Aizen’s condom shell. Isshin’s Getsuga did more damage to Aizen’s shell than Shunko armored Yoruichi’s strike and Kisuke’s Shikai explosion. Stronger than the mentally nerfed Bankai Ichigo.

Isshin’s Getsuga > Isshin ~ Aizen
Isshin > Bankai Ichigo

Kisuke​

Kisuke’s Kido barrage would have ended the fight with Aizen had Aizen not fused with the Hogyoku. Kisuke’s power was equal to Aizen’s prior to his transformation. Kisuke is able to burn Aizen’s condom shell. Stronger than the mentally nerfed Bankai Ichigo. Proof that Kisuke’s Kido barrage was able to pierce Aizen.

Kisuke ~ Aizen
Kisuke > Bankai Ichigo

Yoruichi​

Yoruichi with the anti-Hierro armor can crack Aizen’s condom shell. With her Shunko and the armor she cracks the condom shell. Yoruichi’s Shunko armored punch did more damage to Aizen’s shell than Kisuke’s Shikai explosion. Stronger than the mentally nerfed Bankai Ichigo. Her armor was designed specifically to crack durable armor. Basically, her armor enhances her strikes.

Shunko Armored Yoruichi > Anti-Hierro Armor Yoruichi ~ Kisuke
Anti-Hierro Armor Yoruichi > Bankai Ichigo
Anti-Hierro Armor Yoruichi strikes > Yoruichi strikes

Zangetsu​

Tensa Zangetsu is overwhelming Bankai Ichigo, when Ichigo enters his inner world.

Tensa Zangetsu > Bankai Ichigo

Spoiler: Featuring SAFWY

Top Espada Scaling​

So, there are some interesting statements in SAFWY that enable us to gauge how insane Barragan’s Respira, Stark’s pack of wolves, Yammy’s maximal Resurreccion physicals, and Full Hollow Ichigo are. Cien fires 3 Gran Rey Cero at Roka, and she reproduces Cero Doble to spit them back at Cien (albeit Roka cannot double their output, that isn’t important). Roka then begins to copy another ability, and Cien starts speculating on what she’ll copy, and while he’s doing that, he gives a specific list of powers that would be superior to his triple Gran Rey Cero. It is important to preface that Cien specifically denotes that he is aware of the fight between Ichigo and Ulquiorra above the canopy of Las Noches. When Cien is speculating what powers could be greater than his triple Gran Rey Cero, it would be either Barragan’s Respira, Stark’s wolf pack, or the huge body of Yammy’s maximal Resurreccion. He then transforms and states that his transformed power and base Aizen’s power surpass those aforementioned 3. Furthermore, he states that Full Hollow Ichigo that annihilated Ulquiorra wouldn’t be easy for him to defeat in his transformed state. Now, I say this again, Cien is aware of Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra, and he is listing very specific attacks/states of being that are above his triple Gran Rey Cero. Among those, Lanza del Relampago is not included. Therefore, Barragan’s Respira can age away Lanza, Stark’s wolf pack is stronger than Lanza, Angry Res Yammy’s physicals are stronger than Lanza, half power FH Ichigo is stronger than Lanza (we already knew that), fully transformed Cien is stronger than Lanza, and base Aizen is stronger than Lanza.

Res Yammy’s physicals > SE Ulq’s Lanza
Res Stark’s wolves’ explosions > SE Ulq’s Lanza
Res Barragan’s Respira > SE Ulq’s Lanza
Base Aizen > SE Ulq’s Lanza

Agree: Tracer (add Hollow Hiyori possibly ~< Res Halibel), Clover (he's a calc man and there's some calc implementation in here), Griffon, KT, Mitch
Neutral: Damage (agrees with some stuff but not other stuff)
Disagree:

 

[Stryker861]

Disagree fra, this can be closed

 

[Malekith]

Following

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Lemme just agree before I read anything

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Lemme just agree before I read anything

papa Arc would never lie to you

 

[AnonymousBlank]

papa Arc would never lie to you

Just finished reading and papa Arc did not

 

[Myxenete]

No Niggre and Omaeda scaling? Instant disagree

On a more serious note this looks mostly fine at a glance, but I'll be back in like 10 minutes I'm cooking rn

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

No Niggre and Omaeda scaling?

They're in there.

 

[LordTracer]

I’ve been waiting for this one

Everything here looks solid to me. I would probably advocate for Hiyori possibly scaling/downscaling from Halibel, but I’ll also accept if the majority doesn’t think that’s solid enough.

 

[Godernet]

Arc with another Bleach thread omg

FRA

 

[Stryker861]

Jokes aside everything makes sense

 

[zylieo]

Can’t wait for the Full SAWFY revisions,
Agree with this thread though

 

[YukaSama4]

Everything makes sense
Now I'm gonna go and unwatch before another Ulq vs Starrk debate with Ulq wankers starts

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Now I'm gonna go and unwatch before another Ulq vs Starrk debate with Ulq wankers starts

This is where I get the trusty thread mods to come in, they end up agreeing with me, and I ignore the Reio35 level Ulq claims.

 

[Ped2018]

Goated OP ngl, agree.

 

[Ped2018]

Also, Ulquiorra in the mud while Starrk remains goated.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Looks good to me

 

[Nierre]

Isshin flicks away Aizen.

Isshin can train his fingers in me

nice work

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Isshin can train his fingers in me

nice work

Get help

 

[Ped2018]

Also... huh...could you do a little fanservice and make a scaling chain of the top four espada plus Yammi? With the attacks and all, just want to see who is superior to who.

 

[zylieo]

Isshin can train his fingers in me

nice work

If you were a Bleach character you def belonging in the poorest parts of the Rukongai

 

[Kachon123]

Niggre

yes

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Also... huh...could you do a little fanservice and make a scaling chain of the top four espada plus Yammi? With the attacks and all, just want to see who is superior to who.

They have so many attacks and whatnot, the scaling is more of a web than a chain, so no. You'll see when I put the values in my blog tho and you will be able to tell based on values.

 

[Ped2018]

If you were a Bleach character you def belonging in the poorest parts of the Rukongai

Aizen ******** his pants when he realizes Nierre is a new prisoner

 

[Kachon123]

I agree with the OP

 

[Ped2018]

They have so many attacks and whatnot, the scaling is more of a web than a chain, so no. You'll see when I put the values in my blog tho and you will be able to tell based on values.

I see, i forgot about the ceros and stuff, i was focusing on the SAFWY section

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

i was focusing on the SAFWY section

Angry Res Yammy's GRC > Angry Res Yammy's CO (10x) > Angry Res Yammy > SE Ulq's Lanza > SE Ulq's CO (10x) > SE Ulq = fodder

 

[Ped2018]

SE Ulq = fodder

That was what i was looking for, thank you

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I'm fine with most of this but two I have questions about

Aizen​

Ultra Fragor combines 12 Fragor into a single attack.

Where be the 12 attacks? The scan just shows Ichigo in a hold unless it didn't load properly for me. Also do they fuse and blow up or do they just detonate next to each other because you said 12x in the scaling so I assume they explode as one?

Condom Aizen

Please stop calling him that, I can't not crack a smile.

Top Espada Scaling​

So, there are some interesting statements in SAFWY that enable us to gauge how insane Barragan’s Respira, Stark’s pack of wolves, Yammy’s maximal Resurreccion physicals, and Full Hollow Ichigo are. Cien fires 3 Gran Rey Cero at Roka, and she reproduces Cero Doble to spit them back at Cien (albeit Roka cannot double their output, that isn’t important). Roka then begins to copy another ability, and Cien starts speculating on what she’ll copy, and while he’s doing that, he gives a specific list of powers that would be superior to his triple Gran Rey Cero. It is important to preface that Cien specifically denotes that he is aware of the fight between Ichigo and Ulquiorra above the canopy of Las Noches. When Cien is speculating what powers could be greater than his triple Gran Rey Cero, it would be either Barragan’s Respira, Stark’s wolf pack, or the huge body of Yammy’s maximal Resurreccion. He then transforms and states that his transformed power and base Aizen’s power surpass those aforementioned 3. Furthermore, he states that Full Hollow Ichigo that annihilated Ulquiorra wouldn’t be easy for him to defeat in his transformed state. Now, I say this again, Cien is aware of Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra, and he is listing very specific attacks/states of being that are above his triple Gran Rey Cero. Among those, Lanza del Relampago is not included. Therefore, Barragan’s Respira can age away Lanza, Stark’s wolf pack is stronger than Lanza, Angry Res Yammy’s physicals are stronger than Lanza, half power FH Ichigo is stronger than Lanza (we already knew that), fully transformed Cien is stronger than Lanza, and base Aizen is stronger than Lanza.

Res Yammy’s physicals > SE Ulq’s Lanza
Res Stark’s wolves’ explosions > SE Ulq’s Lanza
Res Barragan’s Respira > SE Ulq’s Lanza
Base Aizen > SE Ulq’s Lanza

1. Is the Kenpachi that fought Res Yammy different from the one that fought the number 5 espada (can't spell his name but he looks like a spoon) because I don't recall that much time passing. Or did he grow stronger? I'm asking because it would mean scaling issues since number 5 fought eye patch Kenpachi as you explained in the last thread.

2. Anyone tanked Starks wolves?

3. Isn't Barragan's Respira decay hax? Wouldn't by default it would just decay it so it's not really a feat unless Barragan can't decay things to powerful?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Where be the 12 attacks? The scan just shows Ichigo in a hold unless it didn't load properly for me. Also do they fuse and blow up or do they just detonate next to each other because you said 12x in the scaling so I assume they explode as one?

Look really closely at the open mouths and eyes on the wings and you'll see the Fragors entering the ring.

Please stop calling him that, I can't not crack a smile.

Hehhehehe

1. Is the Kenpachi that fought Res Yammy different from the one that fought the number 5 espada (can't spell his name but he looks like a spoon) because I don't recall that much time passing. Or did he grow stronger? I'm asking because it would mean scaling issues since number 5 fought eye patch Kenpachi as you explained in the last thread.

Zaraki got stronger yes. Eyepatch Zaraki post Nnoitra > Res Yammy >>>>>> Res Nnoitra ~ no eyepatch Zaraki pre Nnoitra

2. Anyone tanked Starks wolves?

No, it ripped the masks off of Love and Rose.

3. Isn't Barragan's Respira decay hax? Wouldn't by default it would just decay it so it's not really a feat unless Barragan can't decay things to powerful?

Respira wouldn't get AP, but if Respira > Lanza, Respira would be able to decay Lanza. So attacks it cannot decay would scale above Lanza. Like Jakuho Raikoben.

 

[KingTempest]

FKT

FINAL KINGTSUGA TEMPSHO

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

That hurt to read

 

[Myxenete]

Niggre
Nirrge's Ressureccion boosts his strength so much he actually ends up losing speed so I'm wondering if the x5 multiplier is applicable here?

Ggio:
Ggio is able to strike Soi Fon hard enough that her impacting on Niggre's head instantly kills him

Res Ggio > Res Niggre

Toshiro:
Should directly scale to harribel seeing as based on their performance they're relative to eachother, harribel "not showing the full extent of her strength" is just her using Ola Azul.

With Hyoten Hyakkaso he should outscale her completly, as she's unable to break out of it and Wonderweiss has to save her, Starrk finds Hyoten Hyakkaso more impressive than Jakuho Raikoben (even considers fighting toshiro instead of Shunsui after the display, do with that what you will)

Ola Azul > Shikai Toshiro = Harribel
Hyoten Hyakaso > Res Harribel
Hyoten Hyakkaso possibly> Jakuho Raikoben > Res Barragan’s Respira


Uryu:
Uryu's arrows shouldn't scale to Yammy he explicitly states it doesn't get past his hierro

Lisa, hiyori and Toshiro;
Unmasked states the 3 of them together were able to match Harribel, I don;t how much merrit can be given to say it's an even 3 way split but if it does

1/3 Res Harribel = Hollow Hiyori = Hollow Lisa = shikai Toshiro

Harribel:
If Toshiro Hiyori and Lisa are all equals in that instance above then her scaling looks like this

1/3 Res Harribel = Shikai Toshiro = base harribel < Ola Azul
Base Harribel (x3)< Res Harribel

Base Barragan and Base Starrk should logically scale up from that

 

[KingTempest]

But yeah this looks solid

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Look really closely at the open mouths and eyes on the wings and you'll see the Fragors entering the ring.

Ah, I see them now (they look like toothpicks). But do we consider attacks like that multiplier applicable?

Zaraki got stronger yes. Eyepatch Zaraki post Nnoitra > Res Yammy >>>>>> Res Nnoitra ~ no eyepatch Zaraki pre Nnoitra

Ok

No, it ripped the masks off of Love and Rose.

Ok

Respira wouldn't get AP, but if Respira > Lanza, Respira would be able to decay Lanza. So attacks it cannot decay would scale above Lanza. Like Jakuho Raikoben.

I guess that's fair...

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Niggre
Nirrge's Ressureccion boosts his strength so much he actually ends up losing speed so I'm wondering if the x5 multiplier is applicable here?

Not with our standards.

Ggio:
Ggio is able to strike Soi Fon hard enough that her impacting on Niggre's head instantly kills him

Res Ggio > Res Niggre

That's chill yeah.

Toshiro:
Should directly scale to harribel seeing as based on their performance they're relative to eachother, harribel "not showing the full extent of her strength" is just her using Ola Azul.

With Hyoten Hyakkaso he should outscale her completly, as she's unable to break out of it and Wonderweiss has to save her, Starrk finds Hyoten Hyakkaso more impressive than Jakuho Raikoben (even considers fighting toshiro instead of Shunsui after the display, do with that what you will)

Ola Azul > Shikai Toshiro = Harribel
Hyoten Hyakaso > Res Harribel
Hyoten Hyakkaso possibly> Jakuho Raikoben > Res Barragan’s Respira

Big no. That's a lot of confidence scaling, and furthermore Toshiro never puts a single scratch on Halibel, not even with Hyoten Hyakaso. Also, Halibel was restricted and restrained by that attack which would moreso be a lifting strength thing nothing to do with AP.

Uryu:
Uryu's arrows shouldn't scale to Yammy he explicitly states it doesn't get oast his hierro

We see it pierce Yammy's shoulder.

Lisa, hiyori and Toshiro;
Unmasked states the 3 of them together were able to match Harribel, I don;t how much merrit can be given to say it's an even 3 way split but if it does

1/3 Res Harribel = Hollow Hiyori = Hollow Lisa = shikai Toshiro

Mmmmmmm we never see the fight, so I don't really agree with that arbitrary scaling.

Harribel:
If Toshiro Hiyori and Lisa are all equals in that instance above then her scaling looks like this

1/3 Res Harribel = Shikai Toshiro = base harribel < Ola Azul
Base Harribel (x3)< Res Harribel

Base Barragan and Base Starrk should logically scale up from that

Disagree for the reasons I disagree with the 1/3rd stuff.

Ah, I see them now (they look like toothpicks). But do we consider attacks like that multiplier applicable?

Yes, the databooks also state that they are combined into a single attack so it should. 12 1 teraton attacks fused into 1 attack should be a single 12 teraton attack ya feel?

 

[Myxenete]

Big no. That's a lot of confidence scaling, and furthermore Toshiro never puts a single scratch on Halibel, not even with Hyoten Hyakaso.

How is the first part confidence scaling? (regarding base Harribel, Toshiro and Ola Azul), i can let they Hyoten Hyakkaso scaling go

We see it pierce Yammy's shoulder.

And Uryu says it doesn't, we don't even see any of Yammy's blood be spilled

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

How is the first part confidence scaling? (regarding base Harribel, Toshiro and Ola Azul)

That was before Halibel got serious. Once she gets serious she slams Bankai Toshiro with that same attack.

And Uryu says it doesn't, we don't even see any of Yammy's blood be spilled

Scan? Also, blood isn't necessarily gonna spill if the arrow is lodged in there clogging the wound.

 

[Myxenete]

here, was the link not working on my initial post?

 

[AnimesFreak2]

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