Equal Stats Tournament 2022: Sanji (One Piece ) vs Vegeta (Dragon Ball)

[GodlyCharmander]

once again, assumptions. Mine require far less, thus making yours the weaker of the two.

Assume the explosion not only damaged, but the heat SPECIFICALLY burned Freeza
JUST Freeza's face, no other place was burned.
Freeza was also lying about him not caring about the explosion, apparently.

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Blast to the face damaged Freeza's face

It's no based on "nothing." so nice blatant dismissal on your part.

It is.

Goku's ki Blast isn't gonna be dealing that sort of damage to his face whenever Freiza was enduring several attacks from an enraged Goku without heavy damage.

SSJ Goku going for the kill against a Freeza who didn't even have enough Ki to fly off the planet isn't really comparable to 100% Freeza vs SSJ Goku.

Show me Goku's Ki Blast being the cause of Frieza needing skin graphing. Oh that's right, he didn't.

Skin Graphing is an arbitrary need. Ki can damage people, that's all I need.

Which is unsupported and would require you to show such evidence. Again, while not canon the anime can be used as support in cases where the manga is vague, this is one of those cases.

And Freeza getting specifically burned by the heat, rather than the energy, and in the face specifically, is supported and has evidence?

The anime-exclusive content CANNOT be used for this, we can only gather timeframes from it.

 

[LordGinSama]

Also, said damage could simply be caused by you know... BEING CAUGHT IN A PLANETARY EXPLOSION

Heat would be apart of that genius.

 

[Eminiteable]

So essentially, if he doesn't close the range fast enough, Vegeta could use something like final explosion....

Wouldn't that literally kill him? I'm told the anime and manga are different so he's not able to use it as a normal attack like in super (which still nerfs him)

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Alr. And vegetas wincons?

AoE attacks, Range attacks, Endurance (Iffy), and power creep (Due to his strength increasing every hit he takes)

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Wouldn't that literally kill him? I'm told the anime and manga are different so he's not able to use it as a normal attack like in super (which still nerfs him)

Indeed, but a draw is better than a loss, either way, he could still use Galick gun, or something like Big bang attack

 

[Kachon123]

So, if Sanji has two Dura negs, why is vegetas dura neg restricted. Both will one shot either way if they use it.

No it won't. Sanji's doesn't just one-shot.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

No it won't. Sanji's doesn't just one-shot.

Then why are you guys acting like it would...

 

[Orange]

can't vegeta use his surprise fire works? But he doesn't use it very often. anyway , how can sanji deal with point blank insane AoE ki blasts and such?

 

[Nierre]

Then why are you guys acting like it would...

We aren't. We're saying it will take Vegeta down eventually, because it's not like he's invincible.

 

[StekFence]

No it won't. Sanji's doesn't just one-shot.

Ok. Well, considering ultra ego vegeta kinda just tanks stuff, as long as sanji can avoid being hit by damaged and therefore buffed geets, he’d prob win.

 

[Spinoirr]

vegeta heat Resistance
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[Kachon123]

Endurance (Iffy)

Sanji has higher endurance. He shrugged off being impaled through the chest like it was nothing, and said that having his bones broken "Stings a little"

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

We aren't. We're saying it will take Vegeta down eventually, because it's not like he's invincible.

Then Ultra Ego's power creep would tilt the odds in Vegeta's favor, though it wouldn't be a stomp

 

[Kachon123]

vegeta heat Resistance
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That's lava. That is nothing compared to white heat, and fire hot enough to create plasma/electricity.

 

[Eminiteable]

A lot of people are mentioning point blank aoe, ki blasts and final explosion yet Vegeta in ultra ego only used hand to hand combat, in character he would go for that.

 

[Kachon123]

Then Ultra Ego's power creep would tilt the odds in Vegeta's favor, though it wouldn't be a stomp

It wouldn't. UE doesn't last very long. Sanji can still continue to attack him and dodge his attacks with Future Sight and Ken haki.

 

[StekFence]

That is nothing compared to white heat,

It’s slightly below according to my google skills

 

[LordGinSama]

Tbh I forgot about Dirty Fire Works but it's been so long since he's used it I seriously doubt he's gonna use it anytime soon.

 

[Kachon123]

how can sanji deal with point blank insane AoE ki blasts and such?

He can heal. Or just tank it with Armament haki.

 

[StekFence]

Lava, and magma is around 2000-2200 F, while white fire is 2400-2700

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

A lot of people are mentioning point plank aoe, ki blasts and final explosion yet Vegeta in ultra ego only used hand to hand combat, in character he would go for that.

Except in character, he won't go for something he's obviously outmatched in, Granolah had a serious edge in Ranged, it was logical to close the range

 

[LordGinSama]

Also how big is this AoE? Because Luffy way before getting Kenbunshoku Haki was dodging massive point blank explosions without issues.

 

[Nierre]

AOE Blasts won't be the end of Sanji in a stats equal match. It literally never has been in DBZ lol

Sanji will tank them just fine.

 

[Kachon123]

It’s slightly below according to my google skills

White heat is baseline 1300c, Lava at it's hottest is 1250c.

Plasma vastly stomps though.

 

[StekFence]

Plasma seems to be in the range of 15,000, and lighting can go up to 50k

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Which is why I've dropped the heat resist argument

 

[Kachon123]

 

[Eminiteable]

Except in character, he won't go for something he's obviously outmatched in, Granolah had a serious edge in Ranged, it was logical to close the range

How long would it take him to realise he's outmatched though, he had the advantage of seeing how Granolah fights prior to fighting him, he doesn't have that advantage here.

 

[KingTempest]

Why are we acting like Sanji's obs haki won't just... tell him what Vegeta will do?

 

[KingTempest]

Also Sanji burned Luffy who (in a weaker key) could stand in close proximity to Akainu's magma which instantly vaporized steel. Vegeta gets murked

 

[Orange]

A lot of people are mentioning point blank aoe, ki blasts and final explosion yet Vegeta in ultra ego only used hand to hand combat, in character he would go for that.

Yeah, but seeing how sanji Would keep dodging his attacks thanks to his hakai, sooner or later he will just blow the area up, something he very much attempted against Breakfast bar.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

How long would it take him to realise he's outmatched though, he had the advantage of seeing how Granolah fights prior to fighting him, he doesn't have that advantage here.

Probably enough to take a good deal of damage, from there, he'd likely need to blast sanji back with his Kiai (Shockwaves), and try and whittle him away with ki attacks

 

[Nierre]

Yeah, but seeing how sanji Would keep dodging his attacks thanks to his hakai, sooner or later he will just blow the area up, something he very much attempted against Breakfast bar.

his hakai is restricted.

 

[Kachon123]

Yeah, but seeing how sanji Would keep dodging his attacks thanks to his hakai, sooner or later he will just blow the area up, something he very much attempted against Breakfast bar.

Sanji will see Vegeta do that in advance, then go ahead and amp his speed to stop him.

 

[KingTempest]

Plus I fail to see how Vegeta's matching Sanji's speed amps even with zenkai boosts

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

IF ONLY HIS AURA WASN'T RESTRICTED...

 

[KingTempest]

What would his aura do?

 

[Nierre]

Probably enough to take a good deal of damage

He can't cause Sanji has future sight D :

he'd likely need to blast sanji back with his Kiai (Shockwaves)

Haki will protect him from taking any major damage lol
He als has his Germafication that will help him easily tank it


This isn't a stomp but.... I don't see Vegeta winning lol

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Plus I fail to see how Vegeta's matching Sanji's speed amps even with zenkai boosts

Vegeta doesn't have Zenkai anymore, I think it's been stated, Ultra Ego is the power gainer

 

[LordGinSama]

IF ONLY HIS AURA WASN'T RESTRICTED...

Deal with it.

* puts on sunglasses