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Deathly Decadence vs. Dazzling Defense: Queen the Plague and Diamond Jozu Face Off

Sus said:
if its accepted on the profiles then yeah i guess
vs matches go by whatever is on the profile
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I hate that rule because in this case it's blatantly wrong.
Queen never used poison, so why have it on his profile? At most it's a possible ability.
Kachon123 said:
Why not? It's pretty much a one hit kill.
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If he can land it, which is hard as Jozu is faster than him.
 
DaReaperMan said:
he STILL didn't ever try it.
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I'm not sure if you're referring to in chapter 1034, because if you are, this is a terrible argument, as Sanji hit him with 1 Ifrit Jambe that knocked him out.

If you're referring to pre-1034, then that is an even worse argument, as Queen explicitly states that he didn't use it until then to prove a point.

 
Kachon123 said:
I'm not sure if you're referring to in chapter 1034, because if you are, this is a terrible argument, as Sanji hit him with 1 Ifrit Jambe that knocked him out.

If you're referring to pre-1034, then that is an even worse argument, as Queen explicitly states that he didn't use it until then to prove a point.

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And he still didn't use this instant win to end the fight.

Either way, he never used it, so we shouldn't assume he's gonna use it here
 
Kachon123 said:
I'm not sure if you're referring to in chapter 1034, because if you are, this is a terrible argument, as Sanji hit him with 1 Ifrit Jambe that knocked him out.

If you're referring to pre-1034, then that is an even worse argument, as Queen explicitly states that he didn't use it until then to prove a point.

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Ifrit Jambe didn't knock him out in 1 hit.
 
DaReaperMan said:
And he still didn't use this instant win to end the fight.
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Okay? I never said he would?

I quite literally put it at the end of the match up, as it wouldn't be a starting move. Read this:
Kachon123 said:
In this battle, Queen starts 40 meters away from Jozu, giving him an advantage to attack with either his gattling gun or his lasers. If he chooses the former, Jozu can protect himself by covering his body in diamonds. However, the Kira Kira no Mi's weakness is that the body parts affected become immobile, leaving Jozu vulnerable.

In response, Queen would switch to using his lasers, forcing Jozu to either dodge or continue to rely on his diamond armor. Dodging would prove difficult as he would have to deal with danmaku attacks from seven different areas, while relying on his diamond armor would eventually lead to it melting, leaving him filled with holes.

If Jozu manages to close the distance, he would already be significantly weakened from Queen's attacks. At this point, Queen would likely turn invisible and use his Germa Abilities, which involve instantaneous poison that can pass through the body, electricity, or lasers.

Even if Jozu manages to withstand the poison, Queen still has access to Brachiosnakus, which could crush and kill Jozu instantly, as the pressure is greater than what his organs can handle.
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TheMonkeMan said:
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That scaling is wrong for many reasons.

First, Marco scales to Kizaru, who scales above Akainu in speed, and Akainu scales to Aokiji, who Jozu scales to.

Marco ~ Kizaru > Akainu ~ Aokiji ~ Jozu

Secondly, this doesn't prove anything when he doesn't bring up Queen's scaling to compare

Marco ~ Queen reaction speed ~ Exo Base Sanji < Henry Queen
 
Kachon123 said:
That scaling is wrong for many reasons.

First, Marco scales to Kizaru, who scales above Akainu in speed, and Akainu scales to Aokiji, who Jozu scales to.

Marco ~ Kizaru > Akainu ~ Aokiji ~ Jozu

Secondly, this doesn't prove anything when he doesn't bring up Queen's scaling to compare

Marco ~ Queen reaction speed ~ Exo Base Sanji < Henry Queen
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If Jozu is comparable to Aokiji ( who's comparable to Marco ) then it wouldn't matter if the scaling was wrong.
Jozu should still outpace him due to Marco being faster than Queen as shown in their scuffle.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Hmmmmm
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I'm convinced yall don't read.
Kachon123 said:
I'm not sure if you're referring to in chapter 1034, because if you are, this is a terrible argument, as Sanji hit him with 1 Ifrit Jambe that knocked him out.

If you're referring to pre-1034, then that is an even worse argument, as Queen explicitly states that he didn't use it until then to prove a point.

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Kachon123 said:
Marco wasn't faster than Queen's reactions, which is why I wrong reactions/perceptions, not combat or movement speed.
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Tell me how this is accurate or why it matters when Marco was still hitting him before he could even dodge/block/counter?
That's all that matters in a fight. Your opponent can see you... But all that matters is whether they can act on what they see in time.
 
SlendVeny said:
Cool. Does he use them in character?
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Read above please. I know it wasn't you I was talking to earlier, but I had to repeat this like twice or three times already, and It'd help a lot if you read what you missed.
 
Kachon123 said:
I'm not sure if you're referring to in chapter 1034, because if you are, this is a terrible argument, as Sanji hit him with 1 Ifrit Jambe that knocked him out.

If you're referring to pre-1034, then that is an even worse argument, as Queen explicitly states that he didn't use it until then to prove a point.

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He says Judge's sons
 
SlendVeny said:
He says Judge's sons
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Raws say Judge's children


見せるつもりだった!!ジャッジのむすこたち息子達こそしゅうたいせい奴の技術の集大成!!ぎじゅつ

"I was going to show you! Judge's sons and daughters are the culmination of his skills!"
 
Kachon123 said:
Raws say Judge's children


見せるつもりだった!!ジャッジのむすこたち息子達こそしゅうたいせい奴の技術の集大成!!ぎじゅつ

"I was going to show you! Judge's sons and daughters are the culmination of his skills!"
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Why didn't you send the raw translations the first time?
 
SlendVeny said:
Why didn't you send the raw translations the first time?
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Because It's easier to just send a screen shot of the manga that I have open then to upload the file, pull the text, translate it, then send it here?
 
Wonder how we went from Jozu vs Queen, to Reiju's possible/canon secret backstory.

Not that I'm complaining though
 
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