Death Battle Season Six Discussion Thread (9) (Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Sorvoe551]

Also, if Yugi makes it a Shadow Game, won't Ash's mind and soul be ripped apart?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Aura protects him from the former but yeah, Ash's soul wouldn't survive a shadow game.

 

[Sorvoe551]

We are talking about Ash Ketchum, right? Because I don't see anything in his profile concerning Mind Manipulation or Aura

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Tbh I can see him getting a 5-B as the anime seems to be fine with giving him mythicals and whatever the hell Ultra Beasts are. Maybe Sword & Shield will have some mythical 'mon that's comparable to the legends, and given recent trends, it's likely the new legends will be 5-B as well. Plus, with the leaked name of Eternatus, that just screams to me "has a legend about destroying the planet if not stopped"

But we'll see. I wamt some actual tier 3 feats to give us a truly varied set of pokémon on differemt tiers. Maybe Zacian and Zamazenta will fuse into something like Okami and their gigamax forms are larger than the galaxy or some shit lol

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The biggest question is "what team would Ash have?"

My best guess would be Pikachu (obviously), Greninja, Charizard, Infernape, Sceptile, Lycanroc.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well, it depends. They'll likely use his most powerful mons per Gen. With Gen 2 and 5 being up in the air, we have;

Pikachu, Charizard, Sceptile, Infernape, Greninja and one of the 4 (Melmetal, Naganadel, Incineroar or Lycanroc). His Alola team is actually pretty strong.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

I'm just curious how DB would handle it. Plus, whatever they decide, it looks like it's divisive and dependent on certain things so it likely might be accurate regardless pf if Ash or Yugi wins aa they both have wincons.

Also, I'd argue Ash is actually fine with harming the monsters and the ringmaster as I forgot his normal clashes with Team Rocket end in him defeating the pokémon and blasting Team Rocket themselves away as well. Plus, when seeing someone means harm he's not sone pacifist who just sits there ans whines

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah, Ash has been shown getting into scraps by himself. His first encounter with Team Rocket had his rushing James and Ash got into a fistfight with Lucario (Mystery of Mew). He also has lightning timer feats.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Yep. I'd personally argue for Ash but I can see why people would think Yugi wins.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah. If Yugi gets off his dark powers or uses the Gods, he wins. Otherwise, if Ash gets to Yugi himself, with or without his Pokémon, he wins.

Btw, is this a requested DB or one that's rumored to be on the horizon?

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Requested a lot. Wouldn't be surprised to see it happen, though

 

[Lightning_XXI]

And what about speed for ep 116 ? They showed any calc about it ?

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Ep 116 spoilers
They only did one calc for speed, which was Link dodging a laser, which got 0.11 c. They scaled Drac to Soma, who dodged beams of light, but they didn't calc it and instead just called them even.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

They did calc the feat, they didn't show the results on the fight. they said it was only a small difference.

 

[Kingo_the_Sixth]

Funny we were talking about Ash, in an AMA Sam just confirmed there'll be a new Pokemon upcoming in the show. So uh, what matches featuring only a Pokemon could there be?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Unless it's a repeating Pokemon character, only Greninja, Ash, or Jigglypuff (or Pichu) are left that are popular enough to warrant a battle, unless it's another battle royale. You could maybe argue that Blaziken or Sceptile breach the popularity.

God help us all if it's Arceus vs Zeed though.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Funny we were talking about Ash, in an AMA Sam just confirmed there'll be a new Pokemon upcoming in the show. So uh, what matches featuring only a Pokemon could there be?

mewtwo vs shadow 2 owo


that battle's still accurate and no amount of complaining will say otherwise

 

[Theuser789]

Thinking Shadow vs Mewtwo is accurate is high level delusion tbh

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I mean it depends on whos stats we use. OBD has it as they're tied (though Sonic X Shadow wins) while we have it as in Mewtwo wins in base (the gap in speed is nonexistent between baseline FTL and >>>> rel+) but Shadow stomps in Super.

 

[Theuser789]

I mean it depends on whos stats we use. OBD has it as they're tied while we have it as in Mewtwo wins in base but Shadow stomps in Super.

Implying the website who called all Sonic fans f*gs is a good source and right

Oh and this is the quote on Shadow's profile: Nowhere near as good as he is in Tails Gets Trolled", quality right there

Also Shadow is both faster and stronger, that old match is outdated and took one of Shadow's advantages and Cal, Shadow is 9 times FTL based on a calc on Sonic's profile

 

[Genericstickman]

Theirs also that one FTL speed feat of characters outrunning a black hole in Shuffle

 

[Kingo_the_Sixth]

you can speak in regular text it's ok

 

[Sorvoe551]

They used Game Shadow (Though they mentioned a comic feat in his feat rundown), so their AP is equal, but Mewtwo is way slower. Shadow resists Mind Manipulation, so Mewtwo probably couldn't wipe Shadow's memories like he did in the fight. Once Super Shadow is brought out, the fight is over.

 

[Theuser789]

Actualy Shadow is 5-B+ almost 5-A versus a only 5-B, so he has both the Ap and speed advantage

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Anyway, Tatsu destroys Mob because feats > statements. I'd like the idea of Ash vs Yugi tho.

 

[Kingo_the_Sixth]

Sam once said that he likes Gyrados. Magikarp in the season finale confirmed.

 

[Theuser789]

RIP whoever he faces

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Anyway

The emphasis in this made me chuckle.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Anyway, Tatsu destroys Mob because feats > statements. I'd like the idea of Ash vs Yugi tho.

technically mob is significantly faster tho and has soul hax

 

[Kingo_the_Sixth]

I don't see what's stopping Tatsu from immediately binding Mob's esper powers like Fubuki did to Psykos.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

getting blitzed ostensibly, unless ONE's statements are taken as legit in which case Mob passively sucs her power

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

They did calc the feat, they didn't show the results on the fight. they said it was only a small difference.

They said it was a small difference compared to light speed, not compared to Link's feat. It was still close enough for them to call them even though.

 

[Tipper17]

Funny we were talking about Ash, in an AMA Sam just confirmed there'll be a new Pokemon upcoming in the show. So uh, what matches featuring only a Pokemon could there be?

Where is this AMA?

 

[Kingo_the_Sixth]

It's on the Rooster Teeth reddit.

On Sassy Lost Child vs Sassy Lost Child, I feel like scaling them to each other because of a statement kinda defeats the point lol. Anyways, Tatsu's speed I think needs to be looked into a bit, I recall her having some more impressive stuff in the webcomic. Could be me misremembering, but I wouldn't be surprised if she got higher stats. Even if Mob is faster though, he doesn't start out that way. He only gets that crazy quick at the peaks of his power, allowing Tatsu plenty of time to just seal away his abilities. Even if he does get to that stage, the moment he gets up close as he likes to do, he's vulnerable to binding. Hell, Fubuki was able to do it to Tatsu herself iirc, who was far faster than her.

 

[Jared1111]

Unless it's a repeating Pokemon character, only Greninja, Ash, or Jigglypuff (or Pichu) are left that are popular enough to warrant a battle, unless it's another battle royale. You could maybe argue that Blaziken or Sceptile breach the popularity.
God help us all if it's Arceus vs Zeed though.

Arceus vs any top tier would be pretty sweet to be honest. Who would be a fun match up for Arceus anyway?

It be hilarious if they did Arceus vs Zeno.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

they did Machamp VS. Goro as a CDB, it could be that

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Don't you dare give them ideas and have DBZ fans hating on Pokémon when Arceus wrecks.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

As for the next Pokémon? Rayquaza against Ridley ia popular, Greninja is popular in general but Espio is said a lot, Jiggglypuff who gets destroyed, Ash/Red, and then there's Arceus.

Out of all of them? Ash/Red, Arceus (depending on the opponent), and I guess Machamp against Goro are their best shot at having matches they win.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Rayquaza VS Ghidorah tbh

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Basically Rayquaza dies even then. Maybe the RT doesn't buy 4-B scaling for others but I know damn sure the 5-A feat was acknowledged and scaled to MechaG in that DB. Though, granted, RT also had Mewtwo at 5-A due to PMD high-end so Ghidorah would only win if they believe in FTL kaijus, which I believe they might.