Death Battle Season Six Discussion Thread (3)

[Eficiente]

My previous comment was a joke but I actually do this sometimes on youtube. The mentality one has is way different when nobody can verify where do the likes on videos or comments come from.

 

[Doctor_Piccolo11122]

A friend of mine actually shared his verdict with me ( no spoiling of course)
He also deeply respects Cal for his calcs and work towards Kirby.

Out of curiousity, are you friends with any of the G1 members?

 

[Js250476]

A good chuck of them actually yeah. I interact and see them semi regularly since we're friends on discord ( I even joined the blog myself a few times).

 

[The_Calaca]

@Somebody some people in Facebook or some forums usually do it, even when you can verify it.

 

[Js250476]

 

[Js250476]

Prediction blog is out https://g1dbteamblogs.blogspot.com/2019/04/death-battle-predictions-wario-vs-king.html

 

[Eficiente]

Seeing things there that I made honestly makes me happy.

I disagree with only a couple things there, we don't know if Dedede created the technology he uses to fight Kirby, one statement in Miiverse implies he just got one of those from who knows where. And the Friend Hearts don't make others stronger, the scaling is just too wild in Star Allies.

Only that really, the blog was pretty well done.

 

[Js250476]

Well I and them are definitely happy you enjoyed it even they were impressed with how in depth they were.

 

[Jasonsith]

Prediction blog is out https://g1dbteamblogs.blogspot.com/2019/04/death-battle-predictions-wario-vs-king.html

9 Wario - 1 King Dedede (if I count correctly dat dere)

Quite surprises me.

Considering Wario cannot carry that much arsenal (unlike Mario) and Wario is statstomped even with scaling to base Mario.

And damn the prediction blog reminds me of Nightwing VS Daredevil...

 

[Js250476]

Well they use different feats and higher stats for Mario in general over here so that's the most likely reason.

 

[Genericstickman]

That'd probably scale Wario to Donkey Kong's moon punching feat since he's been consistently stated to be stronger then Mario and Mario has fought Donkey Kong multiple times

 

[The_Smashor]

Meanwhile Wario's sitting here with the highest AP in Low 5-B.

 

[Js250476]

As they said if Wario isn't scaled to the other star children he is screwed

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Wait, really?

 

[Mickey1940]

As they said if Wario isn't scaled to the other star children he is screwed

He'd still be screwed either way

 

[Js250476]

Well by the stats here yeah but Star to Solar System stuff is way less one sided then small planet.

 

[Eficiente]

@Js250476 Some other small things I would consider wrong.

On the Friend Hearts: "following his every command until Dedede decides to "unfriend" said ally" & "The only ones unaffected by the Hearts are those who are truly corrupted and evil, who simply take minimal damage upon touching them."

Both of this are Game Mechanics. The new allies are still, well, allies even after the story, "unfriend" them is just an option to disappear them on screen. Being "truly corrupted and evil" isn't something that's going to help you without Resistance to this, which in turn has to be at least at the same level of the hax. Corrupt Hyness was hit by a very small Friend Heart and he got de-corrupted, healed and turned somewhat good, and I assure you this guy was truly corrupted and evil.

 

[Js250476]

Oh yeah I remember that

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Yeah, I was actually surprised of how in-depth the blog was. Even though I think Dedede will probably win, this blog actually made me think it's a lot closer than I initially thought (though, Dedede absolutely wrecks Wario if they don't scale them to others such as Kirby, Mario, etc.)

 

[Phoenix821]

Music is out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN1GteHBN5E&feature=youtu.be

 

[Js250476]

Some say it's very Mario oriented

 

[Jasonsith]

LSS it depends on which Wario is put on against which King Dedede:

Right Back at Ya Dedede < Wario Land Series Wario < Composite Base Wario by comparing with Mario < Game Dedede < Wario when powered up by a Power Star

While most VSBW and DBW peeps generally take "Wario Land Series Wario < Composite Base Wario by comparing with Mario < Game Dedede", 9/10 G1 take "Game Dedede < Wario when powered up by a Power Star"

That's why we view Wario VS King Dedede as Roshi VS Jiraiya while they view it as Naruto VS Ichigo

 

[Js250476]

The fight depends entirely on your viewpoint of both yeah.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Yeah, Wario should win under the circumstances that the G1 blog gave. Death Battle, however, probably won't even touch upon power stars unfortunately.

 

[Js250476]

It's also worth pointing out some members of the G1 community think relevant Mario characters are universal cause of scaling to Rosalina in 3D World and spin off games ( which you can see in radioactivecaffine's verdict even if I disagree with this.) and scaling to Paper Mario surviving Sammer Kingdom being destroyed in Super Paper Mario.

Essentially both communities have very different viewpoints on Mario and Kirby stats in general ( and I see different opinions on both all the time which is why I don't enjoy debates involving them in vs.)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wario's planetary in DB. Where Dedede will be placed us up for debate. Undoubtedly, Dedede blitzes as Wario's like, Mach 300 there.

 

[Js250476]

Yeah for what Dedede will get it's most likely scaling to Kirby and what they had in Kirby vs Buu especially since he survived he same planet explosion from Triple Deluxe they used.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh, I don't doubt he'd be at least planetary. My question is if he'd be any sort of star level or above.

 

[Js250476]

Oh well that's up in the air since it's been years since Kirby's been in DB. One of the researcher members do believe Kirby is Solar System level and Triple D should scale but can't guarantee that'll be in the episode.

 

[Js250476]

Btw Cal any thoughts on the blog?

 

[Genericstickman]

Can't wait for DB to scale Wario to some obscure feat of him surviving a universe blowing up from an an obscure manga only 3 people know about

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Btw Cal any thoughts on the blog?

I mean, it's something. While I don't agree with it, I see their reasoning.

 

[Js250476]

I mean how people you know was aware Wario had Samuss armor in a manga.

 

[Js250476]

@Cal that's genuinely awesome to hear man tbh This is a bit personal but over the last 3 weeks I kept seeing people acting awful to those who disagreed with Dedede winning ( like last night I saw stuff like saying Kirby is the r word blown out of proportions in vs). And they brought up good points but in a really harsh way

I wish people could be like you and respectful disagree even if they don't see eye to eye in certain topics and be understanding about the other side to.

I fear if Dedede wins tomorrow some places are gonna be really toxic ( not this place obviously but places I hang around.)

I should just ignore them.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I don't even know how this of all matches could get toxic. It's not an anime character, it's not Mario vs Sonic, it's not going to be a Tifa vs Yang situation. So long as neither are wanked to universal, there's no reason for anyone to get upset.

 

[Js250476]

Yeah but you'd be surprised how some can be especially towards Mario and Kirby debates. ( it's there attitudes that makes it bad honestly.)

I wish everyone could just enjoy a fun wacky episode and respect the other side even if they disagree.

 

[Eficiente]

I fear if Dedede wins tomorrow some places are gonna be really toxic ( not this place obviously but places I hang around.)

While this is true, DB's reasoning for Dedede winning could also just mention a good amount of speed feats he has higher than Wario's, then some hax, and that's it. Not a perfect solution but avoiding people being able to disagree with Dedede's speed solves many problems, as they would now be unable to disagree with the outcome.

 

[The_Smashor]

More people would be angry if Dedede lost then Wario. Dedede has his own Subreddit for pete's sake.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

>Dedede has a Subreddit

 

[The_Smashor]

Are you honestly suprised?