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Death Battle Season Six Discussion Thread (4) (Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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I have an idea to end Dc's winning streak.
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Yeah, that's right. They used Pre-Crisis for Hal. They didn't use it for Superman cause they mentioned they wouldn't. Such a stipulation was never mentioned for Hal. Are people still bringing up Goku vs Superman? The point of Death Battle is to showcase every feat they have done by theirself, which throws scaling out of the window (READ: they don't use sentences like "should be likely strong as x" which leads to another profile which leads to another profile cause the character x "should be as strong as y" and so on and so worth) in favor of dropping actual feats cause they're "outliers".
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You need to remain consistent within their own show.
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The Presence: Come on I am only Tier 1 I am legit going to lose to The One Above All right?Migue79 said:
The Writer: I wonder if I can McQueen him.
Well Winter Soldier vs Red Hood (Post-Crisis) or Mysterio vs Scarecrow (Post-Crisis) should end the DC winning streak. (Many Marvel small town characters should beat their DC counterparts as long as they have no crippling weaknesses.)
In terms of non-Marvel vs DC, Cyborg (Post-Flashpoint) vs Noel Vermillio should help end the DC winning streak. If a crippled Mr. Freeze vs Weiss Schnee (which turns into Weiss Schnee vs Mitsuru Kirijo now).
Like Marvel and DC small town characters are capped at Mach 2 (except Quicksilver (Marvel Comics)), Electro (Marvel Comics) shoots electricity instead of lightning, they prefer direct feats (outlier or not) over scaling blah blah blah.The real cal howard said:
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If Hal survived the crisis, how come during Post-Crisis he's comparable to Post-Crisis Superman in almost every way? Especially since Superman didn't survive the crisis.
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Also, electricity should at least move 1% the speed of light. That's way above Mach 2.
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She says electricity in the air = Mach 1.634 so most "electricity" attacks are traveling at Mach 2 unless they are traveling along conductors. (Mach 2 in vacuum or in the air relativistic in copper wires something like that.)Migue79 said:
Should I start to have hope on Mitsuru now?DragonEmperor23 said:
- Weiss can create ice constructs but Mitsuru can bypass such defense
- Weiss relies on aura for almost everything but Mitsuru can absorb that
- Mitsuru looks more resistant to cold than Weiss is
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Oh, please. Batman solo's everyone in fiction.
The Presence: Come on I am only Tier 1 I am legit going to lose to The One Above All right?
The Writer: I wonder if I can McQueen him.
Well Winter Soldier vs Red Hood (Post-Crisis) or Mysterio vs Scarecrow (Post-Crisis) should end the DC winning streak. (Many Marvel small town characters should beat their DC counterparts as long as they have no crippling weaknesses.)
In terms of non-Marvel vs DC, Cyborg (Post-Flashpoint) vs Noel Vermillio should help end the DC winning streak. If a crippled Mr. Freeze vs Weiss Schnee (which turns into Weiss Schnee vs Mitsuru Kirijo now).
Wonder Woman (Post-Crisis) should beat She-Ra and Mr. Freeze should beat Mei (Overwatch) tho.
Oh yeah. What did you think of Nightwing vs. Daredevil?
The Presence: Come on I am only Tier 1 I am legit going to lose to The One Above All right?
The Writer: I wonder if I can McQueen him.
Well Winter Soldier vs Red Hood (Post-Crisis) or Mysterio vs Scarecrow (Post-Crisis) should end the DC winning streak. (Many Marvel small town characters should beat their DC counterparts as long as they have no crippling weaknesses.)
In terms of non-Marvel vs DC, Cyborg (Post-Flashpoint) vs Noel Vermillio should help end the DC winning streak. If a crippled Mr. Freeze vs Weiss Schnee (which turns into Weiss Schnee vs Mitsuru Kirijo now).
Like Marvel and DC small town characters are capped at Mach 2 (except Quicksilver (Marvel Comics)), Electro (Marvel Comics) shoots electricity instead of lightning, they prefer direct feats (outlier or not) over scaling blah blah blah.The real cal howard said:
Oh yeah. What did you think of Nightwing vs. Daredevil?
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Spider-Man himself is able to move at speeds exceeding Mach 7,000. Other street level Marvel characters such as Daredevil are able to keep up with him. He's also moved fast enough to hit Quicksilver.
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The sneak peak of Weiss VS Mitsuru is out for FIRST Members. It starts at 8:30 into the video.
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@Jason: Well, it's not if Mitsuru has a chance or not, rather how she's gonna get offered as a tribute for the RWBY primordial gods, no matter how strong she may be. Weiss winning fair and square would be perfectly fine, but we all resigned that the approach to this isn't "Who would win between Weiss and Mitsuru?" but "How can we make Weiss beat Mitsuru?".
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If Screwattack wants to give Weiss a free win they could as well pit her against Asuna or even Mr. Freeze given how SA rejects MHS for Marvel and DC characters.
They must be sure Weiss can deliver a solid mountain busting feat compared to Mitsuru's vague power scaling in order to justify their verdicts.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
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Here we go: if Screwattack put Mitsuru Kirijo at anywhere not lower than universal tier and defeated Weiss Schnee in this episode, I am going to throw a suggestion of Noel Vermillio vs Aigis in the Death Battle suggestion form.
They must be sure Weiss can deliver a solid mountain busting feat compared to Mitsuru's vague power scaling in order to justify their verdicts.
@tarta
Here we go: if Screwattack put Mitsuru Kirijo at anywhere not lower than universal tier and defeated Weiss Schnee in this episode, I am going to throw a suggestion of Noel Vermillio vs Aigis in the Death Battle suggestion form.
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I have a bad feeling they're gonna use The Persona Break mechanic from P4A to give Weiss the win....I feel it in my bones.
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So the preview for Mitsuru came out and now I'm leaning towards Mitsuru because she can heal herself to a greater degree than Weiss can and is immune to ice, Weiss' bread and butter. Also, she has access to Artemesia instead of just Penthesilea. I don't know how much more powerful A is compared to P, does Persona evolution follow Pokemon rules (slight upgrade) or Digimon rules (HUUUGE upgrade)?
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Persona Evolution is a slight upgrade, but one thing Artemesia has is that she no longer has the weakness to fire like Penthesilea did. Meaning Fire dust is no longer an argument.
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inb4 they just ignore that part of the upgrade
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I believe they mentioned it in the preview. Or I heard it from one of the few predictions. Speaking of predictions, is the g1 blog out?
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Or bring it up in Mitsuru's section of the analysis, but completely omit it in the results
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Yeah, but the main argument with fire is that Mitsuru was weak to fire. Also, to counter fire, Megidolaon, i.e a powerful nuke that bypasses all forcefields, reflectors and resistances. Plus healing and energy draining.
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Megidolaon is going to bypass aura and kill Weiss.
Also, repeating Dragon, is the G1 blog out yet?
Also, repeating Dragon, is the G1 blog out yet?
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It's not out. The blogs usually come out on either Saturday or Sunday.
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I have some breakthrough in the "mountain shoveling feat" by the Nevermore that fought Team RWBY.
Calc later - within 24 hours so check out my blog area by then.
Hope it won't go so OOC it gets banned
Calc later - within 24 hours so check out my blog area by then.
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Wait when was that established? Cause she's still weak to fire in persona 3 and Q.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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To be fair that's likely because she's a boss. She's still weak to fire as a party member.
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Depends on if they allow the boss battle versions.
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I mean they are giving her Megadolaon so maybe?
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Megidolaon bypasses all defenses and resistances, so yeah it just bops Wiess. Even if she survives it once, Mitsuru can just keep spamming it, which she could and would definitely do.
Weiss isn't immune or resistant to ice, despite her ice theme. Ironic. Meanwhile, Mitsuru outright negates it. Looks like everyone's favorite "Weiss freezes GG" can be reversed this time around.
Actually, Weiss doesn't resist anything at all? Which is kinda bad for her, especially in this sort of fight with an elemental user and a heavy abuser of magic.
Weiss is outranged, outsped, and very likely to be out AP'd, unless that calc changes anything. Combined with the powerful hax Mitsuru can pull out (charms, multiple versions of debuffs, stat debuffs) and her own stat amps, I don't think it's possible for Weiss to take this. The literal only thing she has is her fire dust, but Mitsuru can just, I don't know, dodge it with her superior speed? She even has items to negate it completely, so it's 1 point for Weiss against a sea of points for Mitsuru.
Of course, we know how this will go, so why even bother? No matter the logical argument made, they have to please the people that write their paychecks.
Weiss isn't immune or resistant to ice, despite her ice theme. Ironic. Meanwhile, Mitsuru outright negates it. Looks like everyone's favorite "Weiss freezes GG" can be reversed this time around.
Actually, Weiss doesn't resist anything at all? Which is kinda bad for her, especially in this sort of fight with an elemental user and a heavy abuser of magic.
Weiss is outranged, outsped, and very likely to be out AP'd, unless that calc changes anything. Combined with the powerful hax Mitsuru can pull out (charms, multiple versions of debuffs, stat debuffs) and her own stat amps, I don't think it's possible for Weiss to take this. The literal only thing she has is her fire dust, but Mitsuru can just, I don't know, dodge it with her superior speed? She even has items to negate it completely, so it's 1 point for Weiss against a sea of points for Mitsuru.
Of course, we know how this will go, so why even bother? No matter the logical argument made, they have to please the people that write their paychecks.
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