Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[DemonKingAkuto]

(Dr. Clef vs Dean Winchetser)
Introduces two new series, thematic, good soundtrack potential, fairly balanced stat-wise, and interesting powers and abilities. I'm still holding onto hope for this one, just gonna have to wait until DB figures out how to do literary characters.

Dean wins because I'm bias

 

[Joycap]

Is Z power Alolan region specific though
I remember the crew mentioned that Mega Evolution, Z power and Dynamax / Gigantamax are region specific

Nah, Ash has taken it out of state before.
At least twice iirc

 

[Stefano4444]

Lupin III VS Carmen Sandiego

Lupin III VS Sly Cooper

I'm fine with either matchup. For the Carmen Sandiego MU, think it's best to use her 2019 Netflix version but a composite is fine.

I will be honest, Carmen Sandiego VS Lupin really doesn't work.

The OG Carmen was never someone who fight anyone on screen or had any impressive feats in her games/cartoons, her best feats come from her stealing stuff and even that it never explain exactly how exactly she did it.

And the new version of her have yet to show any levels of Strength, Speed, Durability, Stamina, Intelligence, Experience, Versatility, Equipment and Skills close to match Lupin, to say its a stomp would be obvious.

My personal pick for Lupin III was always Ryo Saeba from City Hunter, but both Sly Cooper or Kaito Kid could work too, but sadly it isn't the case with Carmen.

 

[Stefano4444]

But we need Lupin III VS Sly Cooper more than Rouge the Bat VS Sly Cooper

Rocket Raccoon its still an option for Sly Cooper.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Lupin and I think AC characters are only ones who won't destroy Sly.

But we probably will have a bat killing a raccoon.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Btw, @Loh67867. Apparently by same artist who made RF vs GB art but still:

I mean if you scale Super Scourge to Sonic Sonic then it's pretty accurate I'd say

 

[BlackDarkness679]

No, I'm a yandare.

Except instead of wanting to murder anyone who loves the same person as me I just wanna murder Eobard Thawne.

Thats called yangire, not yandere

 

[Loh67867]

Btw, @Loh67867. Apparently by same artist who made RF vs GB art but still:

Holy shit that looks awesome

 

[Nero415]

Rocket Raccoon its still an option for Sly Cooper.

That MU doesn't make that much sense at all.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

What is Dean from?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Soo, coming from the discord is that RF might win..............but he might lose also.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Wait, seriously? I mean it's not the first time that DB went against expectations, but aside from Goku Black's absurd AP advantage and time resistance he doesn't have much else

 

[Jasonsith]

Wait, seriously? I mean it's not the first time that DB went against expectations, but aside from Goku Black's absurd AP advantage and time resistance he doesn't have much else

This is assuming Reverse Flash is not low complex multiverse level or even multiverse level in the eyes of the crew. Given how stupidly strong Speed Force is, Negative Speed Force should be very similar.

But well a feat can be mere relativistic in one's eyes and 11c in another. And an island level feat can be viewed as planet level. And a city level feat can also be close to large country level. And a special attack that requires preparation can be interpreted as being ready to perform casually. So I am ready for anything.

What is Dean from?

But what is the Dean we are talking about?

Sly Cooper vs Rocket Raccoon

That MU doesn't make that much sense at all.

Shallow yet recognisable close connections. Can be potentially more fun than Sly vs Rouge

Lupin and I think AC characters are only ones who won't destroy Sly.

But we probably will have a bat killing a raccoon.

And... We are likely having a free win for Sonic by cherry an opponent much weaker to destroy - Rouge wins a lot of gentleman thief character by literally sitting on them - even against St Tail - wait. St Tail can be "weak" enough to fight against Carman Sandiego.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I'm asking again rn

 

[AlephNullscp]

What is Dean from?

Supernatural

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

But what is the Dean we are talking about?

Deans nuts, gottem

(Dr. Clef vs Dean Winchetser)
Introduces two new series, thematic, good soundtrack potential, fairly balanced stat-wise, and interesting powers and abilities. I'm still holding onto hope for this one, just gonna have to wait until DB figures out how to do literary characters.

This Dean

Supernatural

Oh okay, I just didn’t know and I was curious, because it’s cool to see a matchup for Dr. Clef

 

[Derpmaster9000]

I'm asking again rn

Apparently, what you heard could've just been a joke post.

 

[Oleggator]

Apparently, what you heard could've just been a joke post.

Considering reactions it's pretty much should be a joke message.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Apparently, what you heard could've just been a joke post.

Yup lol

 

[The_Smashor]

If Goku Black somehow pulls a win out of his ass in the upcoming battle, I will dress as Eggman and recreate the banana scene from Sonic X.

And yes, it will be a face reveal.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

If Goku Black somehow pulls a win out of his ass in the upcoming battle, I will dress as Eggman and recreate the banana scene from Sonic X.

And yes, it will be a face reveal.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

If Goku Black somehow pulls a win out of his ass in the upcoming battle, I will dress as Eggman and recreate the banana scene from Sonic X.

And yes, it will be a face reveal.

I mean you don't have to do that, but I will archive this message if such thing does come to pass

 

[Tipper17]

Soo, coming from the discord is that RF might win..............but he might lose also.

Yeah right

 

[Oleggator]

If Goku Black somehow pulls a win out of his ass in the upcoming battle, I will dress as Eggman and recreate the banana scene from Sonic X.

And yes, it will be a face reveal.

Tbh I would be not as much surprised by GB winning rather than you actually having ability to dress as Eggman. Not all mortals have such capabilities.

 

[TMaakkonen]

At best its Infinite Zamasu loophole.

Sure, if we are MAXIMUM GENEROUS with Black, technically with Time Ring blocking time shenanigans helps a lot since Black can easily kill RF. Sure, RF has like at least 3 different methods to kill Black, but technically all Black needs is 1 consistent method. This isn't Venom vs Bane or Flash vs QS.

But there ain't no god damn scenario where DB puts Black faster than DC speedster.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

But there ain't no god damn scenario where DB puts Black faster than DC speedster.

No way in hell Black would be faster anyway

 

[Tipper17]

 

[TMaakkonen]

No way in hell Black would be faster anyway

Of course yeah. No god damn way even if with say Jiren beating "time" in his Hit fight scaling.

RF is faster, period. Unless Black somehow can survive RF's attacks, Black dies. If Black wins, its with Infinite Zamasu.

 

[The_Smashor]

I should note that the Super Saiyan Karen joke was told near the end of the preview and it directly led to the end, so it is possible it won't be in the final episode (Thank god).

Goku Black is many things. Insane, British, an Autosexual icon, but a Karen is not one thing I'd describe him as.

 

[Ayewale]

Excited to see Death Battle misinterpret the Time Ring and somehow make GB win
But this does seem like it'll be a nice fight.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Preview ends on clips with Kamehameha, scythe & clones. Unless Time Ring & story takes up 3 mins, Infinite Zamasu might actually be used. Doesn't mean that he wins tho.

But what is this supposed leak? From Discord?

 

[Tipper17]

But what is this supposed leak? From Discord?

What leak

 

[The_Smashor]

Someone said that someone on the DBD said that Fusion Zamasu will be used.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

So Reverse-Flash is gonna kill a living universe huh

 

[TMaakkonen]

I hate I'm getting any hopes for Black. This is a DC win. But still... Black has shocking number of good points if Infinite Zamasu is used.

• Again, Black AP stomps, esp. since with Wally they still compared his physicals to Infinite Mass Punch
• Time Ring shenanigans
• DB Final Form rule means Merged/Infinite Zamasu will be used and can't be said "blitzes before he merges"
• Merged Zamasu is a blessing, as Kaioshin half gives him ability to teleport anywhere, like U7 Shin teleported to Zeno presumably outside of U7, thus Merged Zamasu escapes BFRs
• Kaioshin's can live for millions of years, so he actually should resists age manipulation much better, making it far riskier for RF to attack Zamasu
• Infinite Zamasu is space, hard if not impossible to hit him directly
• I-Zamasu spreading means eventually he can tag RF, because he can't outrun space itself within normal universe...
• ...and somehow due to I-Zamasu leaking to primary timeline means he should be able to leak into where ever RF will time travel to
• The Ultimate Shenanigans that will happen if Black/Zamasu wins, is that I think RF might just be still stronger, sure RF's physicals might suck vs him, but DC Speedster being able to destroy DC Multiverse might just surpass Universe Multipliers versus DBZ, but unbelievably if this is only conventional destruction, that might not cut it if its implied you need super strong erasure to beat I-Zamasu

But like, I then remembered Bleed scaling, which RF might not scale to, but either way I'm expecting them accepting RF being able to destroy I-Zamasu via running.

...But technically I-Zamasu has a lot going for it versus a god damn DC Speedster. In some way its impressive.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

• What makes you think the best feat they’re using for Thawne is the white dwarf punch? It’s not hard to scale him to DC Heralds
• Fused Zamasu loses the Time Ring upon becoming Infinite Zamasu
• It’s very possible for Thawne to destroy IF by destroying the universe or doing his paradox shtick
• If the Negative Speed Force has the same dimensionality as its non-edgy counterpart then Black would need Low 1-C range to escape.
• IF can’t tag RF with his laser beam spam if he goes intangible

that might not cut it if its implied you need super strong erasure to beat I-Zamasu

Nothing implies this.

 

[EJthe24th]

Not sure if anyone noticed but Masakox was feaured in the comment section.

So we might, keyword: might, be having two TFS VA this season with him and Takahata101.

 

[The_Smashor]

Fused Zamasu loses the Time Ring upon becoming Infinite Zamasu

This is kinda a moot point since Present Zamasu being erased didn't cause Infinite Zamasu to stop existing.

 

[Tipper17]

Someone said that someone on the DBD said that Fusion Zamasu will be used.

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