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Hey man, dont say that, one of the 3 Bakugo fans could probably be hereat least we get to watch the worst mha character die
Depending who you ask, Rukia has Nami or SakuraAre there "pity win" MUs for Bleach ala Shadow vs Ryuko for Sonic? Looking at Naruto vs Ichigo & Madaraizen, Bleach fans have been VERY vocal about dislike. I wonder how badly third L would go lol
NO THIS ISUnrelated but Death Battle needs to stop using time travel as a kill against characters that also have time travel lol
Death Battle FAQ: "Shadow Vs. Ryuko was NOT a pity win! Stop saying it was a pity win! We would never throw a character under the bus just to get in good graces with a very vocal fandom! We're better than that!!!"Double W for Yang and positive RWBY win rates tho eww
Are there "pity win" MUs for Bleach ala Shadow vs Ryuko for Sonic? Looking at Naruto vs Ichigo & Madaraizen, Bleach fans have been VERY vocal about dislike. I wonder how badly third L would go lol
With the research and double standards at times? I dont think soDeath Battle FAQ: "Shadow Vs. Ryuko was NOT a pity win! Stop saying it was a pity win! We would never throw a character under the bus just to get in good graces with a very vocal fandom! We're better than that!!!"
NO THIS IS
SUPER ******* IMPORTANT
IT'S SO ANNOYING AND EVERY CONCLUSION THEY DO IT WITH SUCKS
I think in a time travel fight in which both opponents can time travel it should never be used as the wincon, ever, it only breeds confusion. Just use it in cool ways like RF v GB or Booster vs Cable to change the environment and make the fight more interesting, NEVER to determine the victor.
It's part of why Ben vs Hal was so controversial, its part of why I think Archie v Wally has one of the worst/most contrived conclusions for a fight on the show, etc etc, don't ******* do that.
Rip sonic series, going to be scrounging for pity wins and never actually getting Ws against series of notoriety. Really sucksWith the research and double standards at times? I dont think so
They already blew most of the chances for meaningful wins by now, and they've ****** up the stats so much that if they started statting characters correctly now it'd throw basically every previous Sonic character MU/outcome into question so they probably wont wanna do many more I imagine.Rip sonic series, going to be scrounging for pity wins and never actually getting Ws against series of notoriety. Really sucks
Aged to death is a pretty cool one they've never used yet. It's a possible option in something like Sakuya vs Hit for instance, never thought of an air friction one though.Waiting for them to use an aged to death or burned up by air friction kill, those could be cool and possibly brutal depending on the execution
To elaborate on this more:They already blew most of the chances for meaningful wins by now, and they've ****** up the stats so much that if they started statting characters correctly now it'd throw basically every previous Sonic character MU/outcome into question so they probably wont wanna do many more I imagine.
All that's really left is if they want to do Trunks vs Silver but actually do it right, and if they wanna do Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut.
It's one of the few series' where I unironically think that it could've had a near perfect winstreak on the show if researched correctly,
I think the air friction one could be cool, imagine how raw it would be to have the other character burn up in his opponents hand, only leaving dust behind in the palms of the victor that blow away afterwardsAged to death is a pretty cool one they've never used yet. It's a possible option in something like Sakuya vs Hit for instance, never thought of an air friction one though.
I want more cool and creatively brutal but in characters deaths like Reverse Flash's finisher.
What are their close connections again?Rimuru Tempest VS Rachael Alucard
Well... Some verdicts will need time travel as a factor.Unrelated but Death Battle needs to stop using time travel as a kill against characters that also have time travel lol
Notable protagonists of "open world" action role-playing games set in medieval style fantasy worlds (?)Hey, out of curiosity, the team has brought up the Ashen one vs the dragonborn, but what are the connections?
DK vs Knux is actually where they decided to move away from Archie. They originally had Knux win that with Archie stuff.Knuckles vs DK.... I'd say Knuckles wins lol? I'm pretty sure they intentionally restricted his super forms to make the fight more fair/even but I'm pretty sure Knuckles should've pulled through from various factors (it always bothered me how they brought up DK had a weakness to his hair being cut when Knuckles has bladed claw weapons that totally could've cut hair, and Knuckles punches DK in the head multiple times lol). If you unrestrict the super forms though it's super unfair for DK. To my knowledge I think Archie was still composited here? Which if so, makes it even more unfair.
I like to think it was 2 birds in 1 stone. Ryuko's best was Shadow, and hey introducing KLK is cool. Sometimes not all characters can win unfortunately. If we have a winner, we have a loser then too.I think the part about it that bothers me most about it being a Pity Win by design is that Ryuko's probably never comming back. DBX at most.
We joke about characters being 'fed' to the winners sometimes, but she was literally tossed into the meat grinder on that one. The episode was never 'Shadow Vs. Ryuko' it was 'Shadow finally gets a win, with special guest: Who Cares?'
Episode didn't sell me on Kill-La-Kill or Ryuko, it didn't make me like Shadow any more. It just felt like 'A Shadow win, are you happy?' paired with animation that's...fine, good in places weaker in others, But probably not going to be long-term memorable for the fanbase.
She was sacrificial lamb duty, that's bout it. Sonic fans went wild briefly and then seemed to stop caring almost immediately.
...looking at it from the meta level, just kinda sucks it had to be that way. Doesn't feel like the Sonic side got much out of it, the Kill-La-Kill fans got screwed, and casuals enjoyed it but will probably forget about it in favor of the more 'stunning' MUs.
I know not all characters can win, but it feels less about that part to me. It feels more 'who can we have lose?' first and firemost which...feels dirty.I like to think it was 2 birds in 1 stone. Ryuko's best was Shadow, and hey introducing KLK is cool. Sometimes not all characters can win unfortunately. If we have a winner, we have a loser then too.
Would have preffered Akame to fight her, more closer stat wise then Shadow was to Ryuko, even if Ryuko wins it easy by the endI like to think it was 2 birds in 1 stone. Ryuko's best was Shadow, and hey introducing KLK is cool. Sometimes not all characters can win unfortunately. If we have a winner, we have a loser then too.
I think that's the problem I have.In general one should probably cool down on looking info on DB's background too much.
I've looked at Swan's stuff so much that I cant not see bias in his writing, even when his verdicts are fine.
Black vs RF, DIO vs Al & Saitama vs Popeye are objective masterpieces, but I personally dont love them due to being annoyed too much with them lol
We only had two of those really and only one of it made senseUnrelated but Death Battle needs to stop using time travel as a kill against characters that also have time travel lol
Death Battle FAQ: "Shadow Vs. Ryuko was NOT a pity win! Stop saying it was a pity win! We would never throw a character under the bus just to get in good graces with a very vocal fandom! We're better than that!!!"
Every DB watcher the moment Ryuko was shown in the preview: "Oh...Shadow Pity Win."
Yeah listen Chief not every episode gonna be memorable that's just how it be even ones that are goodI think the part about it that bothers me most about it being a Pity Win by design is that Ryuko's probably never comming back. DBX at most.
We joke about characters being 'fed' to the winners sometimes, but she was literally tossed into the meat grinder on that one. The episode was never 'Shadow Vs. Ryuko' it was 'Shadow finally gets a win, with special guest: Who Cares?'
Episode didn't sell me on Kill-La-Kill or Ryuko, it didn't make me like Shadow any more. It just felt like 'A Shadow win, are you happy?' paired with animation that's...fine, good in places weaker in others, But probably not going to be long-term memorable for the fanbase.
She was sacrificial lamb duty, that's bout it. Sonic fans went wild briefly and then seemed to stop caring almost immediately.
...looking at it from the meta level, just kinda sucks it had to be that way. Doesn't feel like the Sonic side got much out of it, the Kill-La-Kill fans got screwed, and casuals enjoyed it but will probably forget about it in favor of the more 'stunning' MUs.
That's dumb considering they animation team wanted to do the fight andI know not all characters can win, but it feels less about that part to me. It feels more 'who can we have lose?' first and firemost which...feels dirty.
Maybe I'm getting cynical about it, but between all the theorizing about the fight and the way the FAQ seems weirdly defensive about the choice, it gives the fight that 'manipulated' feel. Like the KLK part wasn't important, just a happy afterthought.
And it doesn't help that it just doesn't feel like it even accomplished that. Shadow doesn't look any better afterwards, and Ryuko looks bullied and unlikeable (got a friend who REALLY wanted me to watch KLK because I told them the Death Battle made me think I wouldn'tlike it...I actually think it's fun so far, still only on episode 3 tho, we'll see if I keep enjoying it). Honestly, I think what's saving her from being viewed as the new punching bag for losing to Shadow is how...forgettable the whole MU ended up.
Like I said, I'm starting to only remember the fight as 'Shadow got a win', and it feels like that's how other people seem to remember it too.
It's all just...kinda lame. Not offensive, not bad, not controversial, just...lame.
And I think that sucks...
Yeah...which is why I kept using phrases like "makes it feel like" and my last post on the topic was me realizing that it probably was just a lot of little things plus people being negative that put an extra amount of bias on my own perception and is why I FEEL more negative about it than it probably deserves.Also in regards to the whole pity win thing that's more on Death Battle shit decision makings on who wins that give several characters and franchises that feeling
Eh, wouldn't call it a GEM, it has good animation and the track is really good but the fight itself just wasn't that interesting to meLeonardo vs Jason was another gem of an episode but many tend to overlook it when looking at S7 peak
Fair point I look at it mainly as a good but nothing special type of episodesEh, wouldn't call it a GEM, it has good animation and the track is really good but the fight itself just wasn't that interesting to me
And honestly i can say the same about alot of season 7 episodes, it's probably one of my least liked seasons
Maka vs Ruby at this point is only delayed because Monty wanted it to be done when Rwby overYou know how some reviewers loved Saitama vs Popeye's ending? How Saitama is depressed and they actually tried to animate Saitama finally having happy emotions? In theory, that is a powerful emotional good idea.
In practice I feel jack shit because they immediately ******* RYONA him and have him scream in pain. Because ofc the man who killed Ben 10 brutally would do that to have vengeance on the guy casuals voted can beat Superman. Ofc he would voice Popeye and sing a goofy song to ruin the emotional moment. Ofc he would be giddy to feed Saitama before his series is even over. Yes, he would likely still be ****** but its pathetic how Ruby vs Maka is still delayed despite that being a done deal. And I dont care how that reason is technically due to outside things related to Swan, it still paints DB overall in worse light.
All that aside Star has a higher body count so she naturally has the advantage[snip]
Sigma mindsetAll that aside Star has a higher body count so she naturally has the advantage