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I'll take it we aren't assuming he was amped in LTTP anymore?
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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Yeah it's based off too much assumptions since it was in another room. as opposed to being in his body.
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Sorry. I didn't realize that...
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Didn't Link have the Full Triforce during SS?
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He had it for about a minute and during that really brief time he wasn't using it to amp himself.
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He did but it wasn't exactly amping him, he didn't absorb it into his body and get a power boost, he just wished Demise to be dead by dropping a rock on him, and he didn't even take it with him when he time traveled to the past to stop ghirahim and demise.
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Oh GOW, Castlevania, and GG are getting revised too? Upgrades or downgrades?
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@Nero415 GoW is some upgrades but mostly trying to debunk a downgrade for Kratos being 9-A because game mechanics and magic not scaling to physicals.
Castlevania is predominantly upgrades because I'm nuking their ******* 4-A ratings and making them solid Low 2-C even if it's the end of me
Guilty Gear is both, mostly because I severely doubt literally every single character in the verse scales to Low 1-C, Sol and anyone comparable to him sure, but not characters who didn't even scale to him in the first place like May, but I'm also gonna see if I can revise their abilities since looking at any of their pages that isn't Sol Badguy kills me inside every time.
Castlevania is predominantly upgrades because I'm nuking their ******* 4-A ratings and making them solid Low 2-C even if it's the end of me
Guilty Gear is both, mostly because I severely doubt literally every single character in the verse scales to Low 1-C, Sol and anyone comparable to him sure, but not characters who didn't even scale to him in the first place like May, but I'm also gonna see if I can revise their abilities since looking at any of their pages that isn't Sol Badguy kills me inside every time.
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My spirit is torn into two:
On one hand people have claims and statements and even visuals that some feats are universe level and then is debunked.
On the other hand, people are interpreting statements and channeling materials to make a standing far stronger than where they should normally showcase.
In fact, I am making a Super Duper Sumos verse blog just to realise that there are country level feats (and I mean more than 1 feat), but then normally the dishouts are margin room level to some building level.
A nightmare just happened during my lunch nap
Akuma is not fighting Shao Kahn or Raoh or Rugal... Nobody but Fire Lord Liu Kang.
OMFG Bayonetta is being questioned on its universe level too.
On one hand people have claims and statements and even visuals that some feats are universe level and then is debunked.
On the other hand, people are interpreting statements and channeling materials to make a standing far stronger than where they should normally showcase.
In fact, I am making a Super Duper Sumos verse blog just to realise that there are country level feats (and I mean more than 1 feat), but then normally the dishouts are margin room level to some building level.
A nightmare just happened during my lunch nap
Akuma is not fighting Shao Kahn or Raoh or Rugal... Nobody but Fire Lord Liu Kang.
OMFG Bayonetta is being questioned on its universe level too.
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How important would you consider consistency to be? I use it as important criteria but it doesn't seem too much talked about.
Ofc because of how fiction works, a lot of things might technically be outliers, but as long as feats aren't contradicted or are reasonable, there can be some leniency.
Ofc because of how fiction works, a lot of things might technically be outliers, but as long as feats aren't contradicted or are reasonable, there can be some leniency.
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Hmm, I wonder how that’s gonna be relevant. I don’t recall Thawne being a time stopper
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Where you heard uni arguments on Jago?Finished My Blog
Liu Kang vs Jago: Warrior's Will
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Resist time stop or just too fast to be able to move within time stop?
Also, what about time reverse and time travel?
Speed force can do a lot of things with time.
Off topic: when do some people start to mix up "it's" with "its", "their" with "there" and "they're" etc...
Curse buggy automatic grammar fix where fixes generate more errors.
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Defined included
Resisting TimeStop wouldn't matter much considering RF other abilities
Infinite Zamasu will probably just get mentioned in the research but won't be used
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Hmmm... possibly five in total? That's more than I thought tbh.
Scaling to Hit is a bit dubious since the anime and manga depict him very differently:
*In the anime Hit was actually holding back (since he wasn't going for the kill in the U6 Vs U7 arc) plus he was matching SSB×10Kk (post RoF) Goku on top of already beating SSB (post-RoF) Vegeta as well as improving his time-skip thoroughout the battle with Goku. When Hit wasn't holding back he outright killed (albeit very briefly) (post-FT/Black arc) SSB Goku.
*In the manga SSG would've been an enough to match Hit and SSB Vegeta only lost to Hit due to SSB functioning differently in the manga plus his time skip also functions differently in the manga too iirc (with Hit being "rusty" instead of holding back). Hit also never had that rematch with (post-FT/Black arc) Goku in the manga.
It'll be interesting to see how DB scales to Black to Hit.
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I asked that in the Discord and was told that Goku Black would would get the same resistances and everything as regular goku got before TOP.
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It make sense somewhat
Goku Black>u6 SSJB KKx10 Goku
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Oof... Imagine if he said something like that in the actual Death Battle, lol.
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I take it as more it’s Goku’s body from right before ToP, so anything he inately resists, Black would get it too, since it’s Goku’s body still.
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Overall the strongest are Morrigan, Lilith, Belial, Jedah and Post-Pyron Demitri.
If I were to make a tier list, I'd say:
Hypotetical complete Morrigan (1/3 of her soul died inside of Belial, since he sealed it within himself)
Belial, Post-Lilith Morrigan
Morrigan, Lilith, Jedah (roughly on the same level, Morrigan defeated Jedah and Lilith is her equal)
Post-Pyron Demitri (we aren't really sure about his strength, he was confident in taking on Morrigan and Belial but he downplayed them in the past)
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Yeah cause it’s not like his time hax has a scaling chain from here to the other side of the world and back.
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I been using the suggested media for Reverse Flash.
Gotta say, he's pretty petty but fun as hell villain.
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I mean 1. if it works like speedster immortality then it is and 2. how is it temporary when RF is mentioning him surviving events that happened in 1983 due to that ability in 2020…? Granted I still need to see the vid Eficiente sent.
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Ahh okay. Nice.@Nero415 GoW is some upgrades but mostly trying to debunk a downgrade for Kratos being 9-A because game mechanics and magic not scaling to physicals.
Castlevania is predominantly upgrades because I'm nuking their ******* 4-A ratings and making them solid Low 2-C even if it's the end of me
Guilty Gear is both, mostly because I severely doubt literally every single character in the verse scales to Low 1-C, Sol and anyone comparable to him sure, but not characters who didn't even scale to him in the first place like May, but I'm also gonna see if I can revise their abilities since looking at any of their pages that isn't Sol Badguy kills me inside every time.
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It's more funny if you consider that'd totally be in character for Thawne to do that, he's like a troll villain and I love it
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Reverse Flash: Disintegrates kids, kills family members, and causes untold destruction?
Me: I sleep
Reverse Flash: Rigs a YouTube video to make Tifa Lockhart lose to Yang?
Me: I must kill
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Another Brandon Yates commission track came out and I'll say this. Never expected this to be Yang's MU.
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I've seen TN of her vs Infernape
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"It was me, Hunterzillas! I was the one who made that pillar Outerversal!"
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Black
- Multiplier stacking could bag him enough of an AP advantage to one shot
- Time Ring may protect him to getting Paradox’d (but perhaps not because Thawne paradox’d a living paradox)
- Resists any attempts to slow/freeze time via scaling from Goku
- If they scale him to high-end Flash feats Black doesn’t even have AP going for him
- Tremendously faster
- Paradox gg
- Black literally can’t win if Thawne’s Immortality is included
- Phasing
- Can age Black to dust
- Mind hax
- Can bring Black into the Negative Speed Force
- Cosmic Awareness will alert him if Black starts messing with space-time
- Life Force Absorption
- Regeneration
- This comment is getting lengthy so I’m gonna stop talking now
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"It was me, Wiz and Boomstick, I turned all Fourth Wall Breakers into the bane of your existance!"
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Geez I wonder what user on VSBW will be pleased to see a matchup featuring a "monke".
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