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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Batman vs IronMan was debatable but really tony just have way too many to shut Bruce down not to mention his peak armors are Skyfather tier while Bruce only Herald at best

Iron Fist vs Po
Danny has speed but Po just kinda out muscles him and resists a good part of his hax

Akuma vs Shao Kahn
Really boils down to how lenient ur are composting Akuma and view Shao Kahn stats


Dio vs Alucard
Dio hold the stat trinity on lock like dude said
Emirp sumitpo said:
Dio vs Alucad was very one sided in Dio's favor. At best, Alucard could only stalemate
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So, I realized, because of death battle hyperbolic time chamber rules, they probably won’t use shadows in Kira vs Adachi, so they probably wouldn’t factor in Shadow Kira showing up
 
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Alright Goku son edition
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Vs Invincible
Pros:
  • Brings in new franchise
  • Animation potential is alright
  • Some fun banter
Cons:
  • Practically a diet coke version of Omni-Man vs Bardock and Gohan vs Superboy
  • Mark really doesn't bring much to this fight, He's straight up brick
  • Kinda exist of just giving Gohan a free W and not have him fight Connor
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Vs SuperBoy
Pros:
  • Animation Potential is there as shown in there DBX and OMM battles
  • Superboy TK could be used to make the fight standout
  • Some fun banter
Cons:
  • Literally Goku vs Superman:Sons edition
  • Mad redundant
  • Gohan L
  • DC wins LoL
  • Opening Goku vs Superman Pandora's box
 
Tipper17 said:
Alright Goku son edition
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Vs Invincible
Pros:
  • Brings in new franchise
  • Animation potential is alright
  • Some fun banter
Cons:
  • Practically a diet coke version of Omni-Man vs Bardock and Gohan vs Superboy
  • Mark really doesn't bring much to this fight, He's straight up brick
  • Kinda exist of just giving Gohan a free W and not have him fight Connor
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Vs SuperBoy
Pros:
  • Animation Potential is there as shown in there DBX and OMM battles
  • Superboy TK could be used to make the fight standout
  • Some fun banter
Cons:
  • Literally Goku vs Superman:Sons edition
  • Mad redundant
  • Gohan L
  • DC wins LoL
  • Opening Goku vs Superman Pandora's box
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Watch them do Superboy vs invincible instead lmao
 
Joycap said:
I might as well try one of these posts for a Xeno character.

(Let's see... no, I don't want to entertain Shulk vs Lightning with a response... nah, Elly's isn't complete yet... ugh... I wouldn't know KOS-MOS's MUs if I fell over them in the street...)

Ah, Jr. sounds like a fun one to do with this format.

(Con @ all: Where the bloody hell are we going to find Brianne Siddall at this time a night? (Seriously, she's the only VA I picture coming out of Jr's mouth)).

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Now...

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Vs Jeanne (Bayonetta)

Pros:

  • Thematic Devil motif links, alongside ex-exile of a organised body of people (Jr. from Yuriev, and Jeanne from the Umbran Witches)
  • Gunslinging has good animation potential (as shown by DioCard), as does Witch Time vs Red Dragon.
  • "Hey, Kajiura? Ya like Jazz?"
  • At least vaguely debatable. Just because U.R.T.V's anti-meta U-DO (the upper realm), doesn't mean that he's automatically wanked to that level of power. Testaments and Proto Omega's PTC being a potentially infinite speed feat exist for him, though.
  • Jr has just the right kind of snark to bounce off Jeanne being flirtatious.
  • I actually have familiarity with this one.

Cons:

  • Knowing how the DBX was handled, models could be a problem (Trish risks an MU too similar, if you're curious).
  • Would it be in character for Jeanne to flirt with a bioweapon?


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Vs Bowser Jr. (Mario)

Pros:

  • "Maturity despite their immaturity" is a good tagline.
  • Both the sons of 'main dad villains'.
  • Jr having an armoury is a good contrast to Jr gunslinging. E.S Asher could be bought in as part of the animation.
  • OST could go literally anywhere.

Cons:

  • Not much banter potential. Bowser Jr. I always picture with pre-made voice clips.
  • Kind of a stomp if you choose to believe that Base (Gaignun) Jr. is higher than Multi-Solar System level through scaling to stuff that isn't U-DO (Testaments, Patriarch Sergius etc.).
  • Sods law, Bowser Jr. is already booked. Bleugh.


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Vs Rufus Shinra (FFVII)

Pros:

  • "We chuck coins around" (Animation potential is pretty high for this reason)
  • Both higher-ups in an conglomerate empire for a planet or universe (Kukai Foundation vs Shinra Electric Power Company, go figure)
  • OST could be a mix of FFVII classics and Kajiura's best.

Cons:

- General unfamiliarity, both personally (I'm only like 30 mins into FFVII lol) and as far as scaling pages (Why does this man not have a page on VS wiki?).


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Vs Shadow the Hedgehog (Sonic):

Pros:

  • Gerald Robotnik's experiment vs Dmitri Yuriev's experiment (thematics). Many edges and guns, too.
  • Said use of firearms also makes for decent animation potential.
  • Red Dragon vs Super Shadow? Yes please.
  • Kajiura + Crush 40 rock works for the same reasons that Elly vs Blaze does.
  • Also just as debatable (how far does Chaos Emerald scaling go? What does that mean for Base Jr. scaling, too?)

Cons:

  • Banter hinges entirely on Shadow's supposed 'false perceptions' ('hurr dur Imma edgey', when he's supposedly deeper than that). He's not 'the devil' guys (neither is Jr, technically, but Sonic isn't into biblicality, so...).
  • It's Shadow... we've been there three other times.


I also had Nozomi (SMTIVa) put down recently as a potential Jr. opponent, but the memory of playing that game is hazy in my head, so I'm going to lay off that for now.
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Out of all these mus I think I like Rufus shinra the most
 
Tipper17 said:
Alright Goku son edition
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Vs Invincible
Pros:
  • Brings in new franchise
  • Animation potential is alright
  • Some fun banter
Cons:
  • Practically a diet coke version of Omni-Man vs Bardock and Gohan vs Superboy
  • Mark really doesn't bring much to this fight, He's straight up brick
  • Kinda exist of just giving Gohan a free W and not have him fight Connor
dccmp1v-4b41dd99-613d-4ee0-a221-4a14050340fa.jpg

Vs SuperBoy
Pros:
  • Animation Potential is there as shown in there DBX and OMM battles
  • Superboy TK could be used to make the fight standout
  • Some fun banter
Cons:
  • Literally Goku vs Superman:Sons edition
  • Mad redundant
  • Gohan L
  • DC wins LoL
  • Opening Goku vs Superman Pandora's box
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What about Tails vs Gohan
 
Tipper17 said:
Alright Goku son edition
dekgj8t-472f324a-ed59-4f53-9282-3a089499b091.jpg

Vs Invincible
Pros:
  • Brings in new franchise
  • Animation potential is alright
  • Some fun banter
Cons:
  • Practically a diet coke version of Omni-Man vs Bardock and Gohan vs Superboy
  • Mark really doesn't bring much to this fight, He's straight up brick
  • Kinda exist of just giving Gohan a free W and not have him fight Connor
dccmp1v-4b41dd99-613d-4ee0-a221-4a14050340fa.jpg

Vs SuperBoy
Pros:
  • Animation Potential is there as shown in there DBX and OMM battles
  • Superboy TK could be used to make the fight standout
  • Some fun banter
Cons:
  • Literally Goku vs Superman:Sons edition
  • Mad redundant
  • Gohan L
  • DC wins LoL
  • Opening Goku vs Superman Pandora's box
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Mega Man X vs Gohan?

Successors to other heroes (Mega Man and Son Goku) that dislike fighting, but still have limitless potential to grow stronger.
 
The_Smashor said:
Mega Man X vs Gohan?

Successors to other heroes (Mega Man and Son Goku) that dislike fighting, but still have limitless potential to grow stronger.
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eh connections are there but not really something to see happen
but **** it

Pros:
  • Animation potential could be fun
  • MM+DB Music could be stellar (Gohan Anger Theme)
Cons:
  • neither are on each other radar
  • Samus and Primal says hi
  • X eating another L
 
Speaking of X i will now do Z Edition
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vs Primal
Pros:
  • Animation Potential can be good
  • Music Potential is high
  • Fun Banter/Interactions
  • arguably debatable if we're going composite for Primal
Cons:
  • Primal may not be that high up among normies and mostly is a popular pick with the community and not much with casuals
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Vs Samus
Pros:
  • Animation Potential is high
  • Samus latest stuff adds more to said animation potential
  • Metroid+MM Music is awesome as shown with Zero vs Samus commission
  • kinda there with causals
  • X Dub
Cons:
  • Chief could throw a wrench into it
vs Kos-Mos
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Pros:
  • Brings in a new franchise
  • Animation Potential could be fun
  • Music could be a Gem
Cons:
  • X ******* Dies
  • Kos-Mos suffering from a big bad case of LITERAL WHO
vs Tony



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Pros:
  • Animation Could Be fun
  • AC/DC+MM OST could be sweet
  • Banter could be fun
Cons:
  • Tony fought his best MU twice nd doesn't need to come back
  • X ******* Dies
 
Tipper17 said:
Speaking of X i will now do Z Edition
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vs Primal
Pros:
  • Animation Potential can be good
  • Music Potential is high
  • Fun Banter/Interactions
  • arguably debatable if we're going composite for Primal
Cons:
  • Primal may not be that high up among normies and mostly is a popular pick with the community and not much with casuals
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Vs Samus
Pros:
  • Animation Potential is high
  • Samus latest stuff adds more to said animation potential
  • Metroid+MM Music is awesome as shown with Zero vs Samus commission
  • kinda there with causals
  • X Dub
Cons:
  • Chief could throw a wrench into it
vs Kos-Mos
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Pros:
  • Brings in a new franchise
  • Animation Potential could be fun
  • Music could be a Gem
Cons:
  • X ******* Dies
  • Kos-Mos suffering from a big bad case of LITERAL WHO
vs Tony



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Pros:
  • Animation Could Be fun
  • AC/DC+MM OST could be sweet
  • Banter could be fun
Cons:
  • Tony fought his best MU twice nd doesn't need to come back
  • X ******* Dies
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Think you could do Samus next so we can show off the superior Samus vs Mega Man fight?
 
Tipper17 said:
Speaking of X i will now do Z Edition
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vs Primal
Pros:
  • Animation Potential can be good
  • Music Potential is high
  • Fun Banter/Interactions
  • arguably debatable if we're going composite for Primal
Cons:
  • Primal may not be that high up among normies and mostly is a popular pick with the community and not much with casuals
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Vs Samus
Pros:
  • Animation Potential is high
  • Samus latest stuff adds more to said animation potential
  • Metroid+MM Music is awesome as shown with Zero vs Samus commission
  • kinda there with causals
  • X Dub
Cons:
  • Chief could throw a wrench into it
vs Kos-Mos
92f4x23s6j161.jpg

Pros:
  • Brings in a new franchise
  • Animation Potential could be fun
  • Music could be a Gem
Cons:
  • X ******* Dies
  • Kos-Mos suffering from a big bad case of LITERAL WHO
vs Tony



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Pros:
  • Animation Could Be fun
  • AC/DC+MM OST could be sweet
  • Banter could be fun
Cons:
  • Tony fought his best MU twice nd doesn't need to come back
  • X ******* Dies
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Also KOS-MOS has aleph, although some Xeno fans might not like it. I think Joycap could probably chime in and tell you a better MU
 
Tipper17 said:
Pros:
  • Animation Potential can be good
  • Music Potential is high
  • Fun Banter/Interactions
  • arguably debatable if we're going composite for Primal
Cons:
  • Primal may not be that high up among normies and mostly is a popular pick with the community and not much with casuals
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How strong and fast is Megaman X? Primal is as of now is High 7-C and Hypersonic, tho DB might try to scale to the original Optimus, and downscale him from 5-A and MHS+
 
Fate Edition:Saber
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vs Vader

Pros:
  • Animation Could Be fun
  • is Thematic
  • Brings in a Fate Rep
  • Fate+Star Wars OST potential
Cons:
  • Obito existence
  • may not be popular with the causal audience
  • may not be the easiest way to introduce Fate

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Vs Erza
Pros:
  • Animation Potential being good
  • FT 100 YR Quest Giving Erza new stuff that makes her one of the few anime characters that could come back
  • Easiest way to introduce a Fate Character
  • Brings in New Franchise
  • FT+Fate Music
  • Fun interactions
Cons:
  • Erza doesn't need to come back
  • Saber having better for a MU
 
Since everyone else is doing it, might as well throw in potential match up ideas for G1 Optimus.

Superman
Pros:

  • Both are fairly similar character wise. Noble, strong, compassionate, self sacrificing
  • Both are Red and Blue
  • Would look cool in animation
  • Banter between these two would be great
  • Decently popular match up but not really?

Cons:

  • I doubt DB would want to make another match up for Superman
  • Laughable stomp in Superman's favor. (Universal to maybe Multiversal and likely duodecillion x FTL if they scale him to Darkseid, vs Large Planet level and Massively Hypersonic+). I doubt DB would post such an obvious stomp
  • Only way for Optimus to win is if they mega composite G1 Optimus and use Alternate Optimus, or if they do accept IDW Optimus as Universal to Multiversal (Tho considering the Optimus vs Gundam, they likely won't)

All Might
Pros:

  • More even than the previous option
  • Both are similar in character
  • Both are red and blue
  • Great animation potential
  • I can see a cool OST out of this

Cons:

  • Not exactly the most popular match up.
 
Goku Black vs Reverse-Flash was really chaotic, but fun.

Blake vs Mikasa was pretty badly animated, confusing and music was annoying. Definetely the worst fight this far. At lest we got Iron Fist vs Po and Steven Universe vs Star Butterfly after that.
 
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Can someone write me a list of "versus popular" settings (fictional works or franchises popular in versus debating circles) that Death Battle hasn't gone through yet? I know of Touhou, Invincible, Megami Tensei, Bastard!!, and 07th Expansion, and to a lesser extent Saint Seiya, Tenchi Muyo, and Slayers, but is there anything more that Death Battle is really "missing"?
 
Malomtek said:
Can someone write me a list of "versus popular" settings (fictional works or franchises popular in versus debating circles) that Death Battle hasn't gone through yet? I know of Touhou, Invincible, Megami Tensei, Bastard!!, and 07th Expansion, and to a lesser extent Saint Seiya, Tenchi Muyo, and Slayers, but is there anything more that Death Battle is really "missing"?
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Kamen rider?
 
By the way, a thing to note about Alucard's 8-B buffs: It's Anime only. In the Manga, the feat's only 9-A. If you give Alucard 8-B, you need to give DIO the 7-B laser eyes. And the speed advantage still exists either way.
  • Manga DIO beats Manga Alucard
  • Anime DIO beats Anime Alucard
  • Anime Alucard MAYBE beats Manga DIO, but he probably just blitzes and uses the vaporizing freeze
And don't forget that the Part 6 meteor feat is also probably gonna be buffed from where we have it in the upcoming SO adaptation.
 
I swear to God I remember seeing a calc for Anime DIO's eye laser that yielded 7-A to High 7-A

I feel like the biggest thing that should be noted is speed. Even if we use low balled DIO (FTL) and used DB's wanked Alucard speed (Which DB even admitted to their MHS+ Alucard result as high balled). The gap between FTL and MHS+ is still immense to the point Alucard wouldn't even be able to land a single move on DIO. That and Alucard has no way of dealing The World.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I swear to God I remember seeing a calc for Anime DIO's eye laser that yielded 7-A to High 7-A

I feel like the biggest thing that should be noted is speed. Even if we use low balled DIO (FTL) and used DB's wanked Alucard speed (Which DB even admitted to their MHS+ Alucard result as high balled). The gap between FTL and MHS+ is still immense to the point Alucard wouldn't even be able to land a single move on DIO. That and Alucard has no way of dealing The World.
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I mean, it might be possible to argue some stuff via Seras' soul arm thing.
 
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