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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Miraculous
Simply the best
Always so cool....


But yeah, I had little stake for either of these.
The most experience I have with GoW is playing I think GoW1 as a teen on God Mode & giving up at the final boss, thinking I'd exhausted heals & couldn't get back to full HP/MP needed to win. (Get good, past self.)
I scarcely know Asura's Wrath outside of this.

But I value thinking. I love to see people think about things & puzzle it out, & to do creative solutions. If something is fun to think about for the thinker, it isn't overthinking.
Yet here we are in an era of impatience, mashing through text, & often arguable anti-intellectualism.

To me, this felt like a small victory, having lore that requires analysis & consideration be what decided things, as opposed to the spectacular feats that are deliberately eye-catching.
Who wins a hypothetical match will always come down to some kind of logic, & that may not always be intuitive. Sure, sometimes the simple or obvious stuff is right, too.
But having an outcome where the less intuitive stuff is considered & is used to deem the victor, feels right to me.

You can't just ignore the lore & say that only feats should decide things just because you don't want to try & parse something.

So I'm glad this DB went how it did.

Visually, it was pretty good, too. Well-animated, on a technical level, & kind of cinematic, with some surprisingly beautiful, serene moments, too.
 
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I'm not going to lie though: it felt kind of weird scaling Kratos to Ragnarok/Surtr as a justification for being stronger than Asura.

Not that I disagree with it, I mean it make sense to compare him to Freyr who was able to hold back Ragnarok for a substantial amount of time, but wouldn't it have been easier to scale Kratos to Thor, whose fight with the World Serpent shook Yggdrasil as stated in lore and later shown? Would've resulted in the same stats either way, but scaling him to Thor would've been more concrete if that makes sense.
 
But, I think my main criticism is that I wished Kratos did more. He felt too static at times, almost like he's in a Sataima type fight. I wished Asura had pushed him more to use his crazier gear.

Like I get it's Norse Kratos, he's obviously less energetic than his Greek self, but I just wished we got mroe out of him for a guy with so much in his arsenal. It's a similar problem with what I had with Joker in the Joker vs Giorno fight, where I felt the gear was underutilized and when it a lot of animation potential.
Tbf this was an issue i pointed way back, Kratos worked better against Dante, both has arsenal to compare with the other, both would have been roughly equal stat wise, etc

Asura was just punching most of time as seen here too and Kratos being the tanky unmoveable force, outside forms making him do the same it wasnt much variety
 
All this anti-lore and like, if you disagree with Kratos stuff then sure, but surely there can be a scenario where statements and lore can beat feats if they are valid? Surely lore isnt always incorrect?
Asuras uni feat (not including the calc stuff for mass universe cause that shit ain’t uni realistically) is a statement of chakravartin creating the universe lol
 
All of these yappery about Asura being a "FeATsmaN" just to DB itself acknowledge that separating lore just because of gameplay in a character's scaling is bullshit, lol

That said, i think it was a fine episode, the animation felt kinda of meh and Kratos didn't do too much stuff, Asura quickly changing between transformations wasn't that good either, even Frieza VS Megatron had a better change from Golden to Black Frieza despite it also being done extremely quickly.

At least the analysis was funny and praised respect for both, can't say if the arguments used are correct at all, though

At the end of the day, i will give it a 7.5/10
 
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DJTiki said Ghost Rider vs. Spawn will be the first episode fully done with Kickstarter funds.
So they didnt even touch those fully? Can you send screenshot of that comment, gotta send it to someone outside this site to tell him the money concern wasnt a thing yet for them
 
I'm not going to lie though: it felt kind of weird scaling Kratos to Ragnarok/Surtr as a justification for being stronger than Asura.

Not that I disagree with it, I mean it make sense to compare him to Freyr who was able to hold back Ragnarok for a substantial amount of time, but wouldn't it have been easier to scale Kratos to Thor, whose fight with the World Serpent shook Yggdrasil as stated in lore and later shown? Would've resulted in the same stats either way, but scaling him to Thor would've been more concrete if that makes sense.
At the end of the day, same shit, so eh
 
Kratos just stood there, kept blowing away Asura and Asura keep transforming and coming back like "well how about this? ok how about now?". Very flat!

Little actual fighting. You know? What we came here to see? Not just cinematic shots?
pretty much my issue
asura outright jobbed without doing much of anything in the climax
 
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