DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Tipper17]

So I feel like the general consensus here is that Bardock should win due to higher AP and DURA. But, there a chance that they could bullshit a Omni man win.

Same, the way I see that is

Inflating the shit outta that sun disc feat to be above whatever Bardock upscales/Scales from
Downplaying Bardock AP feats

Bardock should win but I'm skeptical whether DB asspull some shit for Omni-Man despite most calcs have Bardock best stuff above Nolan unless ya resort to crossover shit and even thats a mess on itself

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Same, the way I see that is


Bardock should win but I'm skeptical whether DB asspull some shit for Omni-Man despite most calcs have Bardock best stuff above Nolan unless ya resort to crossover shit and even thats a mess on itself

But bro, I feel like it’s a use crossover stuff for an Omni man win that’s just so lame. You could do the same shit for Bardock to get him a win.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Do we really think Omniman gonna get high stats to compete with Bardock given the material he gains?

 

[Tipper17]

But bro, I feel like it’s a use crossover stuff for an Omni man win that’s just so lame. You could do the same shit for Bardock to get him a win.

Crossover for Nolan is an example of ignoring the narrative for the sake of power glazing

Supreme power alters depending on who he faces so ya can't even say he can match a full power supreme at his best even at best that shit is an outlier given the Viltrum feat and that needed three viltrutmites to do it


The only argument ya can make is omnipotus but God that shit is so dumb

 

[TMaakkonen]

Tbf Nolan's speed advantage is bigger than Bardock's AP advantage. I guess they might use Toei speed feats here?

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Tbf Nolan's speed advantage is bigger than Bardock's AP advantage. I guess they might use Toei speed feats here?

u already know there gonna use Toei feats bruh there gonna use super saiyan.

 

[TMaakkonen]

u already know there gonna use Toei feats bruh there gonna use super saiyan.

Using SSJ is different from accepting Goku spaceship speed feat.

 

[Stefano4444]

mind you that was base goku
basic multipliers would have bardock high up the ass there

To be honest this would probably scale only to his Oozaru Form and SSj Form, since Goku after his zenkai post Vegeta fight could already grew stronger than Bardock.

 

[Tipper17]

Using SSJ is different from accepting Goku spaceship speed feat.

I would agree if they weren't giving him everything that isn't the games

To be honest this would probably scale only to his Oozaru Form and SSj Form, since Goku after his zenkai post Vegeta fight could already grew stronger than Bardock.

I agree

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

I hope Tom Schalk voices Omni-Man again.

 

[Spinoirr]

"I did it... I saved the town"

 

[Imaginym]

What is the speed matchup between these two looking at?

Just by the Omni-Man preview so far, they have him at somewhere in MFTL, right?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

What is the speed matchup between these two looking at?

Just by the Omni-Man preview so far, they have him at somewhere in MFTL, right?

Mftl starts from x1000 till higher numbers, he is easily mftl

 

[Imaginym]

Mftl starts from x1000 till higher numbers, he is easily mftl

My bad. So, what does Bardock have to compete with that?

What gives confidence that they'll give those answers to Bardock?

 

[Tyranno223]

My bad. So, what does Bardock have to compete with that?

What gives confidence that they'll give those answers to Bardock?

Toei anime.

 

[Stefano4444]

My bad. So, what does Bardock have to compete with that?

What gives confidence that they'll give those answers to Bardock?

Speaking about Speed, how much fast Bardock its going considering that they will count the Anime?

Bare minimum i think he should end up in the hundreds of millions of times FTL via Goku be capable to react and dodge asteroids while he was riding his spaceship at full speed, which was travelling to Namek which was stated by King Kai to be outside his jurisdiction, which suggest that it was located in a different galaxy at the very least.

Beside that they could use other feats to justify this scaling from Goku outspeeding Burter and Jeice's Scouters, the same items who can trasmit and elaborate data across at least interstellar distances in a matter of seconds, to Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan to be able to sense the Ginyu Force who was travelling with their Attack Pods before they arrive to Namek.

 

[Imaginym]

Speaking about Speed, how much fast Bardock its going considering that they will count the Anime?

Bare minimum i think he should end up in the hundreds of millions of times FTL via Goku be capable to react and dodge asteroids while he was riding his spaceship at full speed, which was travelling to Namek which was stated by King Kai to be outside his jurisdiction, which suggest that it was located in a different galaxy at the very least.

Beside that they could use other feats to justify this scaling from Goku outspeeding Burter and Jeice's Scouters, the same items who can trasmit and elaborate data across at least interstellar distances in a matter of seconds, to Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan to be able to sense the Ginyu Force who was travelling with their Attack Pods before they arrive to Name.

One can only hope that Death Battle would pick up on such relatively subtle, inoccuous things.

 

[Stefano4444]

One can only hope that Death Battle would pick up on such relatively subtle, inoccuous things.

Well its their job to over analyze any scan, quote or guidebook.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Well its their job to over analyze any scan, quote or guidebook.

They dont analyze some stuff in some episodes

 

[Tyranno223]

They dont analyze some stuff in some episodes

The QnA posts by Ultra usually have the rest of the analysis + more detail.

 

[AcidSilver]

Speed is probably the most worthless stat in DB if we’re being real. A character can be faster by orders of magnitude and it won’t matter because the other character has more biggatons of TNT when they punch stuff. They scaled Lex’s speed to Larfleeze at 5 quintillion times FTL while they put Doom at 2 quintillion times FTL and then said that Lex had a “slight” speed advantage.

A 3 quintillion times advantage in speed would mean that Doom would’ve been a complete statue to Lex for the entire fight but instead he was just considered to be “slightly” faster.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Speed is probably the most worthless stat in DB if we’re being real. A character can be faster by orders of magnitude and it won’t matter because the other character has more biggatons of TNT when they punch stuff. They scaled Lex’s speed to Larfleeze at 5 quintillion times FTL while they put Doom at 2 quintillion times FTL and then said that Lex had a “slight” speed advantage.

A 3 quintillion times advantage in speed would mean that Doom would’ve been a complete statue to Lex for the entire fight but instead he was just considered to be “slightly” faster.

I do think them saying it was slight was bit of an understatement but uh, that's a little over a 2 times speed advantage not a 3 quintillion times difference.

 

[Maskofthedragon]

Anime DBZ is insane, beginning of Z Goku walked up a staircase from Hell all the way to the Check-In Station, in what was framed to be minutes

 

[Imaginym]

Anime DBZ is insane, beginning of Z Goku walked up a staircase from Hell all the way to the Check-In Station, in what was framed to be minutes

How big was that staircase?

 

[Maskofthedragon]

How big was that staircase?

Starts in Hell (the floor of the afterlife) and ends at the Check-in station, which is constantly presented as in the middle of the afterlife

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Has anyone here played Dustborn

 

[BlackDarkness679]

The QnA posts by Ultra usually have the rest of the analysis + more detail.

Which ended with bill vs discord, which ngl was nasty to do given the controversy it had

 

[Gyra1524]

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Speed is probably the most worthless stat in DB if we’re being real. A character can be faster by orders of magnitude and it won’t matter because the other character has more biggatons of TNT when they punch stuff. They scaled Lex’s speed to Larfleeze at 5 quintillion times FTL while they put Doom at 2 quintillion times FTL and then said that Lex had a “slight” speed advantage.

A 3 quintillion times advantage in speed would mean that Doom would’ve been a complete statue to Lex for the entire fight but instead he was just considered to be “slightly” faster.

3 vs 5 is a not even a x2 difference, much, so slight is the right word, also speed matters, cuz even if your opponent punches and tanks more then you, if you have good haxes, they make up for it

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Isnt Omniman one the monster they fought in the 2nd last episode of S1?

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

So, for animalities its:
Liu Kang: Phoenix
Geras: Hippopotamus
Quan Chi: T-Rex Skeleton
Scorpion: Scorpion
Sub-Zero: Wooly Mammoth
Smoke: Gorilla
Sektor: White Rhinoceros
Cyrax: Hornet
Noob Saibot: Crocodile
Kitana: Hummingbird
Mileena: Orchid Mantis
Reptile: Venus Flytrap
Rain: Pufferfish
Havik: Hyena
Kenshi: Wolves
Takeda: Octopus
Johnny Cage: Great White Shark
General Shao: Brown Bear
Reiko: Bighorn Sheep
Homelander: Griffin
Omni-Man: Hail Mary (Kaiju)

 

[Gyra1524]

Isnt Omniman one the monster they fought in the 2nd last episode of S1?

Yes

 

[Imaginym]

So many comments asking the same thing... & honestly, I'm of the same mind:

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN PEACEMAKER IS?!
Bro literally has a beloved & cherished pet Eagle named Eagley!

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

So many comments asking the same thing... & honestly, I'm of the same mind:

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN PEACEMAKER IS?!
Bro literally has a beloved & cherished pet Eagle named Eagley!

Doves or Starro, maybe

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Peacemaker is canon to DC universe right? Might be something related to their verse like how Omniman is the monster they fought in the series before Invincible fights his dad

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Ah, nope they went with the eagle despite it already being apart of his move set. And looks really nice

 

[Spinoirr]

Which ended with bill vs discord, which ngl was nasty to do given the controversy it had

Didn't they post to the public all of goku and superman's research where they put superman at 6D/7D

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Ah, nope they went with the eagle despite it already being apart of his move set. And looks really nice

Damn that looks sick.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Ah, nope they went with the eagle despite it already being apart of his move set. And looks really nice

Welp if that aint screaming "Murica f*ck yeah!" I dont know what is

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Didn't they post to the public all of goku and superman's research where they put superman at 6D/7D

Im talking about post episode Q&A which they explained stuff outside the episode