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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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After Joker proven he can bypass GER, might as well bring up the All Fiction from Medaka Box too
 
So, is acausality or some level of immeasurable speed enough to deal with Giorno's stand, stats notwithstanding?
 
Peter_Quicksilver_Maximoff said:
Is Super Eggman canon?
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Accelerated_Evolution said:
Yup
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Kinda funny that Eggman got two superforms in recent Sonic media (Light-Man and Nightmare Eggman, three if you wanna include the movies) after mostly relying on empowered mechs for decades in the games.

In the comics he got this tho.
WCMM said:
So, is acausality or some level of immeasurable speed enough to deal with Giorno's stand, stats notwithstanding?
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BlackDarkness679 said:
Immeasurable speed would blitz RTZ so i guess

Acausal from looking the page only 4 and 5 seems to resist causality
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Honestly the more I think about it, the more I realized GER walked so Infinity can run in terms of esoteric powers that the Vs community had meltdowns over how they'll interact with other verses while the characters in questions (Gio and Gojo) were getting frankly ridiculous MUs and debates.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Honestly the more I think about it, the more I realized GER walked so Infinity can run in terms of esoteric powers that the Vs community had meltdowns over how they'll interact with other verses while the characters in questions (Gio and Gojo) were getting frankly ridiculous MUs and debates.
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Infinity seems pretty straight forwards. If you have infinite speed, or a teleportation style power, it's not an issue.
 
If you had some sort of acausality that let you exist beyond time, and had some form of non-physical interaction, could you attack GER directly?
 
Gyra1524 said:
Wait I just found out that James Rolfe is guest-starring for the cast I thought it was just a match-up involving him.
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Isn't it slightly... hmm... dangerous(?) for an author to debate how his own character would do in a vs match with other franchises?
 
WCMM said:
What's the minimum you would need to attack or disable GER "before" it can react and undo things?
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Are you asking how much you would need to damage GER before RTZ no longer functions? Because there just is no definitive answer for that, you'd have to use headcanon.
 
ShawnFaux said:
Okay so I took note of every ability Joker used in the battle, and uh, yeah this would be an awful run if you're trying it on a new game.

Arsene uses what I think is Cleave, and then Maeigaon. An AOE skill that he doesn't have by default. So he would be stuck using only Cleave until you get it.

Alice then proceeds to only use Die For Me! A good skill, but if you're going through the effort, you'd probably want something better for boss fights.

Jack Frost also only uses Ice Age, and maybe Enduring Soul if you wanna make that case. So while you can get him early, he can't do anything for a long time.

Then there's Satanael. Yeah he only uses Sinful Shell obviously, but that's fine because that skill is amazing... except you wouldn't be able to get him because you're on a new save.

Basically, I'm sure it's possible to beat the game like this (though Okumura would be hard roadblock), but it probably wouldn't be very fun.
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Sinful Shell isn't usable in P5 btw, it's cutscene exclusive so lol
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Messiah got the short end of the stick all around in its own game.
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I think it's because Orpheus has two final evolutions: There's the one that's supported by the story (in that it's the fusion of Orpheus and Thanatos + appears in the credits) in Messiah or there's the one that you get the same way you get the other ultimate Personas in future games in Orpheus Telos. So it's a little hard to decide which one is Makoto's ultimate Persona.

Q1 implies that it's Messiah because that's what you unlock after beating the Super Boss, whereas the same circumstance in Q2 gives you Orpheus Telos, so 🤷‍♂️
 
ShawnFaux said:
I think it's because Orpheus has two final evolutions: There's the one that's supported by the story (in that it's the fusion of Orpheus and Thanatos + appears in the credits) in Messiah or there's the one that you get the same way you get the other ultimate Personas in future games in Orpheus Telos. So it's a little hard to decide which one is Makoto's ultimate Persona.
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He just has 2 hotdogs
 
ShawnFaux said:
I think it's because Orpheus has two final evolutions: There's the one that's supported by the story (in that it's the fusion of Orpheus and Thanatos + appears in the credits) in Messiah or there's the one that you get the same way you get the other ultimate Personas in future games in Orpheus Telos. So it's a little hard to decide which one is Makoto's ultimate Persona.

Q1 implies that it's Messiah because that's what you unlock after beating the Super Boss, whereas the same circumstance in Q2 gives you Orpheus Telos, so 🤷‍♂️
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No, it's Messiah. Orpheus Telos is just an award for completing every social link and was used in Q2 cause both Makoto and Kotone are there. Messiah was not only shown in the credits as you say, but was also the final Persona he unlocked in the movies.
 
DRW001 said:
Like don't get me wrong, Joker still beats Giorno, but if they say something that is completely false, I'm going to point it out lol, especially something as egregious as that
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How would explain Joker winning, then? If you don't mind me asking.
 
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