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Debunked in what sense?
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Buddy, they are for the ongoing season confirmed
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Nah, Bunyan slams him ngl, his footsteps alone created the great lakes iirc, Bill's top feat is a storm he held.
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Case by case
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I didnt quite follow Jojo, but I was led to believe GER had huge hype. I guess hype died down? There were still some mistakes in analysis, but even that didnt overall cause any real complaints.
We joked about salt but uhh nothing happened for GER losing. Its really weird.
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I guess a good explaination and proof really can make a hyped up character thought unbeatable by casuals to be accepted as losing to a lesser known one that is also pretty powerful
Something alien x didnt have and was done in poor taste
Something alien x didnt have and was done in poor taste
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Omnipotent Orb's description is same in Japanese text, right?
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or just be 5D and above
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Probably so, but like, there's nothing really majorly wrong about the analysis, whereas the sundisc was a huge factor for why Omni-Man won.
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Yeah, but people have went salty for even correct winners. We lucked out huh lol
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Eh, I suppose Joker just really built like that.
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It's unfinished (Both anime and light novel, volume 6 was back in 2016)
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Normally, I think I'd feel clueless, but thankfully, I read the G1 Blog's analysis for the matchup, which was abundantly sourced.
| Omnipotent Orb | Nullifies all attacks except for Almighty. Gives the user the power to freely manipulate the logic and laws of the world. |
"A ball that let's you acquire the will to freely determine all of the world's logic (laws)."
Hopefully that scan is helpful.
If anyone knowledgeable in Japanese language wants to double check it, feel free to do so.
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世の理を全て自由にできる意思を得られる玉 効果: 万能属性以外によるダメージを無効化
"A orb that grants the will to freely control all laws of the world.
Effect: Nullifies damage from all sources except for almighty (universal) attributes."
"A orb that grants the will to freely control all laws of the world.
Effect: Nullifies damage from all sources except for almighty (universal) attributes."
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Yeah, seems fine.
I have seen complaints that OmnipotentOrb only nulls damage and that it doesnt do anything else in gameplay so the description is therefore bad, but that mostly seems like gameplay limitation, so that argument might not invalidate OO's power entirely.
I have seen complaints that OmnipotentOrb only nulls damage and that it doesnt do anything else in gameplay so the description is therefore bad, but that mostly seems like gameplay limitation, so that argument might not invalidate OO's power entirely.
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I think using Eyes of Heaven to show GER CAN lose, and then explaining how Joker can do it like DIO did helped people accept the result way more if they didn't include it, despite the fact they straight up lied about EOH being written by Araki.
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Funny how even when they got correct results, they still get certain things wrong, which if most were to dive deep into it, would call it out
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I wonder what DB ep has the least number of errors lol
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Another factor is prob due to the fact both characters are not as popular as they were several years back while as mentioned it being better example of subjective that folks tried to argue previously
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Joker taking stats was the consensus no matter what end ya have him at, GER was the only thing carrying Giorno in the debate so if ya buy him lol no to GER no one gonna question as long the reasoning is decent
OmniDock reason falls flat just by basic logic and reading Invincible
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I see no lies told
Not even just that five decent explanations that can be understandable to a degree that doesn't scream meth inducing insanity and folks would be fine
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Thats another thing, Jojo part 5 anime had hype back in 2018 especially cuz the last 2 eps took longer to be airing after GER showed up on screen with a cliffhanger
Hype wont last long for something and the MU was requested for long yet until now it happened
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Man ain't it crazy when the research isn't so ass it let's the wrong person win, the episode is well received
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If the MU happened around let's say between 2020-2022 range I feel there would've been some for salt but it again it happened by the time the hype died
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Also back in the past, even here the consensus was GER stalemates, so there wasnt much research on joker to say otherwise, then it changed over time
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Also nearly 860K views for the episode
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“lied” is a strong word, it is a common misconception/half-truth within the fandom so I am not surprised they perpetuated it
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GER isn't as hyped up now since JoJo Part 5's anime ended a while ago. If they did this back then, there might've been more salt.
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It's not necessarily a lie, just a very widespread misconception. (Araki actually supervised Eyes of Heaven's plot, which means he approved of the script).
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Yeah, exactly. There's also the fact that all of the marketing for the game hyped up Araki's involvement, especially in Japan, so it wouldn't be hard to get a few details mixed up on exactly what he provided for the game's writing.
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Jojo has the issue of araki forgot and his misconceptions around his series which most are just fans not paying attention
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I mean if you were, I doubt you'd be able to type this...
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I gotta ******* know who Pecos Bill is
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Don't really know what the others are talking about, but, yes, they can. It's not shown directly in gameplay, necessarily, but you can see it in Persona 4 Arena/Ultimax and in various anime.
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This shit Really a massive stain for years to come
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Should have just delayed it rather than release that ass research.
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Really don't understand what were they cooking on that shit
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