DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[ShawnFaux]

I will say, the doc specifically mentioning that they think GER doesn't have to be able to kill you to activate the death loop is a little suspect.

Not in the sense that I don't believe that (although I don't, that seems ridiculous), but in the sense that it seems like the type of argument they'd bring up in the ending analysis for a Giorno win, ya feel me?

Like I could hear Boomstick saying something like, "Oh but Joker can destroy universes, how could Giorno even hurt him?", and then Wiz is like, "Well actually you see, yap yap yap yap yap."

I'm still betting Joker, though.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I will say, the doc specifically mentioning that they think GER doesn't have to be able to kill you to activate the death loop is a little suspect.

Tbf, it also explicitly said at the end "Does get beat by causality resistance tho" which could be used similarly.

 

[ShawnFaux]

Tbf, it also explicitly said at the end "Does get beat by causality resistance tho" which could be used similarly.

That's true, I forgot about that part.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

 

[SpecterSkater]

Tbf, it also explicitly said at the end "Does get beat by causality resistance tho" which could be used similarly.

Yeah, that's why I felt like that document wasn't entirely a slam dunk win condition explanation for Giorno. They're at least giving the understanding that GER isn't unbeatable it just takes another severally busted set of abilities to counter it specifically.

Now if the team buys Joker having that kind of counter is the real thing up for debate if they follow that line of logic.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

 

[ShawnFaux]

The only thing on their doc that I'm completely, 100% not buying is GER having literally no stats.

Bro beat Diavolo's *** (even if he didn't kill him), and you're telling me that you think he's physically weaker than, say, Echoes Act 1? Nah bro, that don't pass the vibe check.

 

[Theuser789]

The only thing on their doc that I'm completely, 100% not buying is GER having literally no stats.

Bro beat Diavolo's *** (even if he didn't kill him), and you're telling me that you think he's physically weaker than, say, Echoes Act 1? Nah bro, that don't pass the vibe check.

I think they just think it's beyond the needs for stats because of it's powers.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I think they just think it's beyond the needs for stats because of it's powers.

No, the blog legit argued that GER had literally zero destructive power and everything it does is hax based.

 

[Theuser789]

No, the blog legit argued that GER had literally zero destructive power and everything it does is hax based.

Well, I didn't read the blog because it was deleted before I could (and nobody gave a review of what it said in full).

 

[ShawnFaux]

Personally, I believe GER is at least comparable to Star Platinum physically given it's status as the "ultimate stand".

Though obviously that's kinda head-cannon, and would be irrelevant here given Joker's stats, but still, I just wanted to give my opinion.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Personally, I believe GER is at least comparable to Star Platinum physically given it's status as the "ultimate stand".

Though obviously that's kinda head-cannon, and would be irrelevant here given Joker's stats, but still, I just wanted to give my opinion.

Nah, it clearly has no physical capabilities and beats Joker via downscaling from Hermit Purple. Truly the weakest stand

 

[Woomica]

The only thing on their doc that I'm completely, 100% not buying is GER having literally no stats.

Bro beat Diavolo's *** (even if he didn't kill him), and you're telling me that you think he's physically weaker than, say, Echoes Act 1? Nah bro, that don't pass the vibe check.

Litteraly anybody who watched jojo automatically assumed ger outstats everyone because stats show none

 

[ShawnFaux]

Nah, it clearly has no physical capabilities and beats Joker via downscaling from Hermit Purple. Truly the weakest stand

Imagine a 90 something year old Joseph with Hermit Purple wrapped around his fists squaring up GER (his Part 2 plot armor returns and overrides RTZ).

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Imagine a 90 something year old Joseph with Hermit Purple wrapped around his fists squaring up GER (his Part 2 plot armor returns and overrides RTZ).

Ger: "You will never reach the Truth

Joseph: "Jokes on you, I always lie!"

 

[ShawnFaux]

Litteraly anybody who watched jojo automatically assumed ger outstats everyone because stats show none

Oh absolutely, I've never heard anyone else make this claim. Props to DB for having a unique(ly bad) take.

 

[Bigdongus]

Oh wait the episode is this Sunday? Oh my god time flies

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Oh absolutely, I've never heard anyone else make this claim. Props to DB for having a unique(ly bad) take.

Honestly, yeah. Out of the Infinite argument loops I've had about GER, scaling it's physicals below Coco Jumbo is new

 

[Woomica]

Imagine a 90 something year old Joseph with Hermit Purple wrapped around his fists squaring up GER (his Part 2 plot armor returns and overrides RTZ).

Part 2 plot armor and jorge beyond and he can solo everyone even those with plot manip

 

[ShawnFaux]

Honestly, yeah. Out of the Infinite argument loops I've had about GER, scaling it's physicals below Coco Jumbo is new

Shout out to the doc acknowledging that GER at the very least destroyed a large stone pillar on screen but then just saying, "Nu-uh, doesn't count." Can't even give him that lol

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Fun fact, with Ultimate Hamon Overdrive, Joseph is the most physically powerful JoJo on this site

Yes, physically stronger than Giorno and GER

 

[Tipper17]

Well the blog was years ago qpparently so who knows if shit changed by then

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I just realized that Giorno's profile lists GE and GER as unknown lifting strength, meaning if they do push the narrative of "No physicals GER" i can legit push an agenda of "Coco Jumbo has superior LS than GER, GG NO RE"

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Well the blog was years ago qpparently so who knows if shit changed by then

So it was years ago. Yeah, I'm not putting to much stock into that then.

 

[ShawnFaux]

Well the blog was years ago qpparently so who knows if shit changed by then

Well that's good to know then, because the more I think about it, the more I think it's wack. Hopefully some of their thoughts have changed.

 

[ShawnFaux]

Small aside, but I do wonder what they would think of each other.

I feel like Giorno would see Joker as a kindred spirit, of sorts. Someone who was similarly able to enact change in the world for the better with the help of his friends and sheer force of will, all while operating outside the bounds of the law (though being an actual member of the Italian mafia is obviously a bit worse than being a Phantom Thief).

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

When did Stanford Pines get a 1-B upgrade?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

When did Stanford Pines get a 1-B upgrade?

Cause he's him (idk)

 

[Tipper17]

Play process of elimination on what could be the TOC episode

 

[Woomica]

When did Stanford Pines get a 1-B upgrade?

1-B humans

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

When did Stanford Pines get a 1-B upgrade?

In the same thread that also made Bill 1-B

Read the profile justifications for any other doubts

Cause he's him (idk)

Dipper (After being request by Ford to stay on Gravity Falls): What about school?

Stanford: Nah, i'm smarter than them

 

[ShawnFaux]

In the same thread that also made Bill 1-B

Read the profile justifications for any other doubts


Dipper (After being request by Ford to stay on Gravity Falls): What about school?

Stanford: Nah, i'm smarter than them

Well damn, I didn't know Stan was like that.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Play process of elimination on what could be the TOC episode

I would love to see Homer VS Peter, it probably won't happen, though

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Play process of elimination on what could be the TOC episode

Wolf vs Scorpion? Man I want that, but it's unlikely

Eh, Korosensei vs Monokuma ig

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Well damn, I didn't know Stan was like that.

Wdym "like that"?

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Wdym "like that"?

I believe the kids call it "built different"

 

[ShawnFaux]

Wdym "like that"?

1-B. I didn't know he was built like that.

 

[ShawnFaux]

I wonder, if JoJo and Persona were in the same verse, would a Stand user be capable of having a Palace? And if so, could their Shadow summon their Stand?

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I wonder, if JoJo and Persona were in the same verse, would a Stand user be capable of having a Palace? And if so, could their Shadow summon their Stand?

Probably, but knowing how Persona works things would get incredibly weird. Such as The World being so absurdly buffed due to DIO's sheer overconfidence that it's an unbeatable godly stand (though i would find it funny if he was the one boss in the franchise who can die to instant-kill attacks due to being weak to holy attacks)

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Play process of elimination on what could be the TOC episode

Shouldn't KratoSura, HulkZilla, Grugamind, and WileTom be crossed since they’re going to happen?