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Base The last Naruto and Hamura Chakra Hinata upgrade

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Ok. So far, only two staffs had shared their opinion regarding this CRT.

Damage disagrees with the CRT, while Shadow agrees with Hinata's but stays neutral on Naruto's.

The majority of the non-staff votes are in favor of my proposals for both characters. Since this crt is already a week old yet it's barely getting any traction from staffs, how should this thread be concluded?

1. Upscale both characters through majority votes from non-staffs?
2. Upgrade only Hinata since no one disagrees with hers?
 
Damage3245 said:
3) Get more staff input, or the thread is rejected.
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Up to 20 staffs were tagged but only two of you guys replied. It's already a week now. Isn't it only proper to either go by the two staffs that were able to reply to contribute to the thread, or the opinion of the non-staffs that are a majority here?

As a side question, isn't this thread supposed to be both for staffs/non-staffs? Why is the opinion of a staff the only thing that matters?🤔
 
Tdjwo said:
It was never accepted.
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Ah, too bad, you guys could try a calc then, if everything fails or if a middle ground could satisfy both sides, it could be useful

About the CRT itself...I'm honestly unsure what to think of it, if Base The Last Naruto ends up downscaling from his BSM self, I'd rather have a "At most" to his rating

I recommend you calling UchihaSlayer to take a look
 
Shadow is fine for Hinata scaling to Naruto but neutral on Naruto scaling to his Biju-Sage Mode.

I'm against the CRT currently.

Lord Griffin has no stance on it.

That's it, I think.
 
Also, it seems Lightning XXI seems to agree with the CRT if Base NAruto is going to be given an "at most" rating.
 
Damage3245 said:
Shadow is fine for Hinata scaling to Naruto but neutral on Naruto scaling to his Biju-Sage Mode.

I'm against the CRT currently.

Lord Griffin has no stance on it.

That's it, I think.
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Okay. It seems like this thread does not have sufficient support to be applied then.
 
Antvasima said:
Okay. It seems like this thread does not have sufficient support to be applied then.
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Lightning XXI seems like he agrees with the thread as long as Base Naruto has an "at most" rating in which I'm fine with.
 
Lightning_XXI said:
Thanks but yeah, I'm just a supporter

Have a little patience, when other staff get the time they will appear
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If a one-week-old thread only has 2 active staffs, it means other staffs just don't care about it which is fine. That's why I want to end this thread as soon as possible especially when I'm about to resume school. I'm even willing to drop Naruto's proposal since no staff actually agrees with it. But Shadow agrees with Hinata. Idk if Damage also agrees with it as well. If he does, then Hinata should get an upgrade. I would find another time to repropose for Base Naruto again.
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Only read the OP and by no means is the Naruto that condensed all his chakra into one hand “Base” Naruto
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Only Naruto's arm was coated with BSM chakra. The rest of his body was in base. This is what I was trying to propose;
The deciding victory for Naruto against Toneri was by BSM Naruto condensing his BSM chakra into his left arm to deflect Toneri's GWRE, then transferring that chakra into his right arm to one-shot the greenie. All these happened while Naruto was in base form which means not only did he react to Toneri's GWRE in base form, but he was also fast enough to punch TCM Toneri in that same process, and withstood the AP of his BSM-level punch that traversed through his body then released the AP on the huge crater on the moon's surface. Which meant Naruto had the durability to tank the recoil, and the AP to release it back onto the ground.
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Naruto’s arm, which had all his BSM chakra in it, would’ve tanked the vast majority of the blowback from the punch. This is no basis to scale his base relative to BSM.
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^Exactly this

As with speed, Naruto basically just ran straight forward while Toneri stood still, this isn't exactly a feat of comparison
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Naruto’s arm, which had all his BSM chakra in it, would’ve tanked the vast majority of the blowback from the punch. This is no basis to scale his base relative to BSM.
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The AP transversed through his body. That was the cause of the huge crater on the moon.
 
Tdjwo said:
That makes no sense. We never calculate AP that way for any character.
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Naruto’s arm, which had all his BSM chakra in it, would’ve tanked the vast majority of the blowback from the punch. This is no basis to scale his base relative to BSM.
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We also don’t scale the characters entire body to an amped limb throwing a punch. Because Naruto’s arm is amped, it would inherently have a far higher durability than his body, and since it’s his arm that’s making the primary movement/in direct contact during the punch, his arm would take the brunt of the punch. Scaling his base body’s durability to an amped arm’s punch that’s amped beyond his normal BSM since it’s concentrated is by definition circular scaling and downscaling isn’t supported at worst and arbitrary at best.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
^
We also don’t scale the characters entire body to an amped limb throwing a punch. Because Naruto’s arm is amped, it would inherently have a far higher durability than his body, and since it’s his arm that’s making the primary movement/in direct contact during the punch, his arm would take the brunt of the punch. Scaling his base body’s durability to an amped arm’s punch that’s amped beyond his normal BSM since it’s concentrated is by definition circular scaling and downscaling isn’t supported at worst and arbitrary at best.
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It seems you don't understand how I'm scaling base Naruto. Think about it like this. It's like trying to push a truck forward by pressing your two legs against the ground for better balance and position while your two arms do the pushing. You have to have strong legs to halt your movements from moving back while your hands should equally be as strong to push forward.

There is no concrete way to prove that base Naruto didn't tank the same amount of force that he used to punch Toneri especially when we know that in order to scale to your AP, you have to have that durability. We could see what Naruto's legs did to the moon afterwards yet he didn't break down.
 
There is no concrete way to prove that base Naruto didn't tank the same amount of force that he used to punch Toneri especially when we know that in order to scale to your AP, you have to have that durability. We could see what Naruto's legs did to the moon afterwards yet he didn't break down.
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That's why Arc7 said you should calc the amount of destruction done to the Moon.
 
Damage3245 said:
That's why Arc7 said you should calc the amount of destruction done to the Moon.
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There's no need to calc the destruction made on the moon since he never hit it in the first place. . It's simply going to scale from the BSM punch he withstood. This is more of an AP feat than a DC feat.
 
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