That isn't the official coloring so I'm skeptical, especially since the end of the chapter before that one has Naruto using SPSM
So basically, you're arguing that Naruto arrived in SPSM, went to base form just to punch Madara and then immediately went back into SPSM after
God you guys
Why is your immediate response to whine bias? You did this to Arc earlier in the thread.God you guys
Why do you guys always try downplaying any feat I showcase for base Naruto but let others off for even worse feats? I saw everyone desperately supporting the 5 kages, especially kurotsuchi despite her anti-feats but when it comes to base Naruto, you just conclude it was a mistake.
They are more than good enough bar let's say the feat of Sasuke halting SPSM Naruto. All the other feats I showed proved base Naruto has a 5B striking strength, and Sasuke has 5B durability. You say the majority of staff members disagree yet majority of non-staff members agree which makes me understand why vs wiki is considered nonexistent outside this wiki since only staff member's opinion matters regardless of how bias and wrong they are. How Kurotsuchi and Chojuro get upgraded to 5B based on one inconsistent feat(esp Kurotsuchi) yet they can't take down someone who is weaker than 100+ old Ohnoki. But base Naruto who consistently has six paths feat is still getting contentions. The evidences I've shown for base Naruto is a lot more credible than any evidence or argument you guys made for the five kages.
Personally I very much agree with the idea of 5B ( or at least low 5B) striking for Sasuke and Base Naruto(it would be a little weird if Naruto could punch several tiers higher than Sasuke when the bulk of their six paths buffs was hags chakra and they both recieved the same amount of his Power) but I’ll also say the arguments aren’t that great. It’s not like Naruto was flying at sasuke with 5Bs worth of speed and energy and Sasuke had to tank it. Naruto just got sent flying got sent flying after a failed clash and bumped into Sasuke. As far as the Boruto Kage, they were given several different interpretations of the Momoshiki fight and in each one they were able to subdue/fight Base Kinshiki and Momoshiki.
Nobody counts the amount of speed needed fr characters in order to scale their AP. It's not like Fused Momoshiki was punching Gaara's sand with 5B worth of power yet he still gets scaled to 5B for being able to stop Momoshiki's punch.
He didn't bump into Sasuke. Sasuke teleported to his location and physically halted him. I already dropped that point regardless since nobody want to agree with it.
Kurotsuchi deserves to be give ZERO interpretation if something like this exists
A. With jutsu only
The thing is that, Sasuke isn't tanking a 5-B AP
That isn't base Naruto
That's pretty much how it works
In this case, it clears up an unclear scene in the manga
It doesn't clear up any unclear scene since there was never an unclear scene to begin with. It just diverts away from manga content just like how the fight with pain and six tails got changed in the manga where pain stood almost no chance against six tails but the anime created new sequences etc.
His rinnegan covers that aspect well
Naruto and Sasuke touching the orbs in base is fine they have hags chakra and even Óbito giving Kakashi his chakra gave him six paths chakra so it’s possible. But is there’s any reason Naruto would leave the form and jump back into it? Like Narratively why would he? He has a fresh supply of chakra and knows he’s about to fight Madara. The form doesn’t take a lot to sustain considering he used it for the entire Kaguya fight with no signs of fatigue. There’s no reason for him to drop to base at all. And even the Anime and Game canons show him staying in SPSM the whole time. Most likely a Kishimoto error like Edo Madara having the rinnegan before he was introduced to have it.
It's not clear in black and white
A few fight scenes is in no way similar to a color depiction
That's completely false
Thinking too hard about this might not get anyone anywhere. After all, Kishimoto started that chapter with Naruto in base form. He drew him next panel still in base form. If a mangaka makes an error, it doesn't get repeated simultaneously. Not only would he have gone through his work, his editors would have checked for it too.
It looks pretty clear to me.
I would copy-paste what I sent to Godernet since both of you made similar points.
Kishimoto makes art errors all the time that pass through I even gave an example with Edo Madaras rinnegan. Not to mention the panel that your referring to is just a continuation of the panel from the previous chapter where he did have the six path eyes. If Kishimoto was trying to show the difference in utility between his SPSM and his base he would have made it more obvious that he powered down rather than off screening it. Even later adaptations( the game and anime) fix this to have him in SPSM the whole time.
I just explained to you why it's not logical to find pure logic in certain scenarios like this. I used the Sakura-Hashirama example to explain why this logic would only serve as an unnecessary downplay. I also understand that Naruto powering down for that brief moment doesn't;t make sense narratively but cmon, do the five Kages being equal to Momoshiki and Kinshiki make any sense as well? Does Sakura being equal to Tsunade based on Hashirama's statement make any sense as well? Cases like these is when you have to find anti-feats to support your argument for/against the feats. The five kages had antifeats. Kurotsuchi couldn't take down Mu. Chojuro had a difficult time with the amateur swordsmith kids. Base Naruto doesn't have any other feat that makes him look weaker than his performance against this Juubidara.
Yeah no
Same response as the message above
This a complete false equivalence
Naruto only too him on is six path sage mode
Where did u get this scan because I am 90% sure the Manga shows him six path while doing all these shitHAHAHAHAHA I finally found a striking feat for Base Naruto and it makes me feel so stupid because of how obvious it is. The anime version made me think it was SPSM Naruto. It wasn't until I checked both the coloured and non-coloured scans did I discover it was just base Naruto.
Note: Madara still healing doesn't matter because Madara himself still claimed Naruto's power had actually grown. We could see the damage he caused to the god tree immediately after he punched Madara. Madara was still able to react regardless of his situation but he still got pressured by base Naruto.
Oh I see , if u are using base Naruto Vs sasuke in the final battle, that could actually work tho
This is how his eyes were before hitting Madara
All these you are saying doesn't validate what Kishimoto tried to convey. Did it also make sense for Naruto in base to clash with Rinnegan Sasuke despite the [power difference? Naruto's base simply became that strong. His reverting to base form could be anything like a flex as to how much he's leveled up. Nothing suggests it can't be. The official manga scan shows him in base two times in a row. What sort of mangaka would make that kind of mistake especially when he also has editors to assist and crosscheck his works?
