Base The last Naruto and Hamura Chakra Hinata upgrade

[Arc7Kuroi]

There's no need to calc the destruction made on the moon since he never hit it in the first place. . It's simply going to scale from the BSM punch he withstood. This is more of an AP feat than a DC feat.

Naruto’s condensed BSM chakra arm would have taken the vast majority of the force from the punch. As such the most you can say that spread throughout his body is enough energy to make that crater. We have no way of quantifying how much energy reverberated past his arm and to his body except for what we see with the crater. This really feels like an attempt to abuse downscaling for higher ratings when unlike the cases in Boruto, there isn’t a high preponderance of evidence to say base Naruto downscales at all. The condensed chakra arm argument you are making simply does not indicate what you think it does as I’ve pointed out multiple times.

 

[Tdjwo]

Naruto’s condensed BSM chakra arm would have taken the vast majority of the force from the punch. As such the most you can say that spread throughout his body is enough energy to make that crater. We have no way of quantifying how much energy reverberated past his arm and to his body except for what we see with the crater. This really feels like an attempt to abuse downscaling for higher ratings when unlike the cases in Boruto, there isn’t a high preponderance of evidence to say base Naruto downscales at all. The condensed chakra arm argument you are making simply does not indicate what you think it does as I’ve pointed out multiple times.

The BSM punch is for itself. When Naruto punched Toneri, Naruto's entire body felt the shock of the recoil. Like I said earlier, it's like when you push a truck forward by pressing your two legs against the ground for better balance and position while your two arms push. You have to have strong legs to halt your movements from moving back while your hands should equally be as strong to push forward.
If we were to calculate the crater like you said, it wouldn't make any sense. It's like saying this

Is stronger than this

based on the crater size despite the smaller crater being from BSM Naruto's full body unlike the base Naruto with Kurama chakra coated.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

The BSM punch is for itself. When Naruto punched Toneri, Naruto's entire body felt the shock of the recoil. Like I said earlier, it's like when you push a truck forward by pressing your two legs against the ground for better balance and position while your two arms push. You have to have strong legs to halt your movements from moving back while your hands should equally be as strong to push forward.
If we were to calculate the crater like you said, it wouldn't make any sense. It's like saying this

Is stronger than this

based on the crater size despite the smaller crater being from BSM Naruto's full body unlike the base Naruto with Kurama chakra coated.

None of this proves that Naruto’s base body took force comparable to his condensed chakra punch that can one shot someone he’s relative to in BSM. I don’t feel like repeating myself infinitely here so I’ll just defer to the staff vote on the matter.

 

[Tdjwo]

None of this proves that Naruto’s base body took force comparable to his condensed chakra punch that can one shot someone he’s relative to in BSM. I don’t feel like repeating myself infinitely here so I’ll just defer to the staff vote on the matter.

How does it not prove that? I used a perfect example to explain it(The truck pushing) and I even showed you why your logic won't work by asking me to calculate the crater size. Nothing you said counter's my point at all but there's nothing I can do about that since the staff's opinion is the only thing that matters anyways.

Do you agree with the Hinata proposal though?

 

[BlastX]

Can't we just put that Base Naruto is At Least whatever his Base Form from the war arc was and call it a day?

 

[Tdjwo]

Can't we just put that Base Naruto is At Least whatever his Base Form from the war arc was and call it a day?

You know, I could just upscale him from his EOS base form who could contend with rinnegan Sasuke in the manga and anime who is currently 5B. But I just want to use my argument to get him to possibly 5B.

 

[BlastX]

Then why the **** didn't you start with that in the OP as well?! Literally a more solid argument than what this thread is based on.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

huh? Why are you insistent on using an argument that not only has been debunked but that no one agrees with? If there’s a better more accurate scaling, use that don’t insist on using incorrect info just because you wanna feel cool with your niche argument

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Naruto fans never cease to amaze me.

 

[Tdjwo]

Then why the **** didn't you start with that in the OP as well?! Literally a more solid argument than what this thread is based on.

huh? Why are you insistent on using an argument that not only has been debunked but that no one agrees with? If there’s a better more accurate scaling, use that don’t insist on using incorrect info just because you wanna feel cool with your niche argument

Naruto fans never cease to amaze me.

It's because the argument actually made sense but everyone isn't ready for the convo.

If I used the EOS Base Naruto vs Sasuke to upscale the last Naruto, would you guys agree?

 

[LordTracer]

It's because the argument actually made sense but everyone isn't ready for the convo.

It clearly doesn’t. If it did, the majority would actually have agreed with it.

 

[Tdjwo]

Moreover, I kinda did use the EOS base Naruto meta as an example on why Base TL Naruto scaling to his BSM self isn't inconsistent.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

It's because the argument actually made sense but everyone isn't ready for the convo.

It makes sense to you =/= it’s a sound argument.

If I used the EOS Base Naruto vs Sasuke to upscale the last Naruto, would you guys agree?

Craft your argument.

 

[Tdjwo]

Craft your argument.

There isn't much to craft. Isn't it straightforward?
You still haven't given me your opinion regarding your acceptance or not for Hinata's scaling to BSM Naruto via Hamura's chakra.

 

[BlastX]

Dude, you have to actually write an argument and explain why, doesn't matter how "Obvious" it is.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

If I used the EOS Base Naruto vs Sasuke to upscale the last Naruto, would you guys agree?

You'd have to Revise Shippuden Rinnegan Sasuke first because of his

Striking Strength: Unknown (Far stronger than before, but to what extent is unknown)

Durability: Unknown (Far more durable than before, but to what extent is unknown)

If you wanna scale Base EoS Shippuden/The Last Naruto to Tier 5

 

[BlastX]

I think it will be better if a new thread is made.

 

[Tdjwo]

You'd have to Revise Shippuden Rinnegan Sasuke first because of his

If you wanna scale Base EoS Shippuden/The Last Naruto to Tier 5

Isn't that a mistake on his profile? Sasuke is 5B without Susanoo and higher with Susanoo. So why would his striking strength be lower than 5B if he scales directly to SPSM Naruto who is planet class in those sections?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Isn't that a mistake on his profile? Sasuke is 5B without Susanoo and higher with Susanoo. So why would his striking strength be lower than 5B if he scales directly to SPSM Naruto who is planet class in those sections?

You'd have to Revise Shippuden Rinnegan Sasuke first because of his

If you wanna scale Base EoS Shippuden/The Last Naruto to Tier 5

Mrk

 

[Tdjwo]

Mrk

Meaning?

 

[LordTracer]

I think it will be better if a new thread is made.

Agreed.

 

[BlastX]

I'm half tempted to do the thread myself because we won't get anywhere at this rate

 

[BlastX]

Of course I can't cause I'm going to sleep cause I have school tomorrow.

 

[Tdjwo]

I'm totally fine with making a new thread for the new scaling. I can get that done by tomorrow.

Before doing that, is anyone against the Hinata scaling though? I don't see anyone disagreeing with her's.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Isn't that a mistake on his profile? Sasuke is 5B without Susanoo and higher with Susanoo. So why would his striking strength be lower than 5B if he scales directly to SPSM Naruto who is planet class in those sections?

Not only that, his Durability is also Unknown, 5-B with Susanoo only, despite physically tanking hits that could harm S6P Naruto

Anyway, in the Final Valley Base Naruto and Sasuke only clash at the very beggining of the fight, the rest is Anime only stuff, the manga goes directly into Six Paths

 

[BlastX]

I think Naruto by the end of the fight could throw down with Rinnegan Sasuke in Base, even tying and blowing up both their arms with Sasuke using a superpowered Chidori and Naruto using a basic ass Rasengan.

 

[Tdjwo]

Anyway, in the Final Valley Base Naruto and Sasuke only clash at the very beggining of the fight, the rest is Anime only stuff, the manga goes directly into Six Paths

That's more than enough. Darui was also given a 5B upgrade just by clashing with base Momoshiki once.

 

[Tdjwo]

I think Naruto by the end of the fight could throw down with Rinnegan Sasuke in Base, even tying and blowing up both their arms with Sasuke using a superpowered Chidori and Naruto using a basic ass Rasengan.

I mean, Naruto has always been physically superior to Sasuke. But they should be relative on a normal occasion at the very least.

 

[LordTracer]

Naruto has always been physically superior to Sasuke

Uh… no?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Uh… no?

Sure he is, he's got two kids that don't need glasses and two hands

 

[Tdjwo]

Uh… no?

Except BOS, Naruto was always physically stronger. But let's not derail.

 

[Tdjwo]

Sure he is, he's got two kids that don't need glasses and two hands

You still haven't told me the meaning of Mrk"

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

You still haven't told me the meaning of Mrk"

It's what you are now

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

You still haven't told me the meaning of Mrk"

It's a state of being as said by Arc

 

[Tdjwo]

It's a state of being as said by Arc

It's what you are now

You mean I'm being a chad right now? Cuz that's what I feel like I am.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

 

[Tdjwo]

I still need to know if everyone agrees with the Hinata scaling before I make the new thread for Base Naruto.

 

[Deceived3596]

No one agrees

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I still need to know if everyone agrees with the Hinata scaling before I make the new thread for Base Naruto.

Ffs, fix Sasuke first before trying to scale Base Naruto.

Chad my ass

 

[Tdjwo]

No one agrees

Shadow agreed with Hinata's.