Awarding Boruto Many Success Achievements Via Shippuden Achievements Of Success

[Deceived3596]

Kaguya never completed ETSO. So you can't say he scales above it as she never reached her full power using ETSO

Edit: High 4-C dropped from discussion

 

[Gokukid2005]

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This is starting to sound less like you not believing Sakura could be at this level and more like you dislike Sakura and are denying everything because of that.
Naruto DID NOT heal more people than Sakura; that is ludicrous. And like Ino said, he did that unconsciously and, as we can see on that same page, is not as good as Sakura, who is specialized in that field.
For the Madara point, Sasuke was terrified of Orochimaru the first time he saw him and then went on to burn his face; Naruto was scared shitless of Gaara the first time he saw him, then went on to defeat him.
Sakura was scared of Madara when she saw him, then went on to confront him but was blocked by Limbo which she couldn't see nor sense. Sakura was frightened of Kaguya, then went on to punch her.
One thing happening prior doesn't disprove the latter.
EDIT: I apologise for derailing the thread with this little back and forth.

 

[KLOL506]

I agree with Shika's shadow material. I just really disagree with the Sakura scale, the Kages and the Kakashi Hokage.

basically I disagree with any material that upgrades women for no apparent reason...

Anyway, I'll take a break because this thread is making me become the Joker

Time to cancel you, you filthy misogynist

 

[AnimesFreak2]

HOW THE **** DID THIS THREAD GET TO 9 PAGES SO QUICKLY.

Lots of personal incredulity

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

HOW THE **** DID THIS THREAD GET TO 9 PAGES SO QUICKLY.

Because it's a Naruto God-Tier CRT, what did you expect? This happens everytime.

 

[Reio35]

Didn't kakashi get wrecked by fooder shinboi in that same novel?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Y’all I got a wonderful Sakura/Shin proposal (some other dude pretty much got it down pat already), I’m just waiting for damage to awake so he has a realistic shot of seeing it. Personally, I say, we wait for the Sakura/Shin addendum and move on for the time being

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

basically I disagree with any material that upgrades women for no apparent reason...

Sus.

This is starting to sound less like you not believing Sakura could be at this level and more like you dislike Sakura and are denying everything because of that.
Naruto DID NOT heal more people than Sakura; that is ludicrous. And like Ino said, he did that unconsciously and, as we can see on that same page, is not as good as Sakura, who is specialized in that field.
For the Madara point, Sasuke was terrified of Orochimaru the first time he saw him and then went on to burn his face; Naruto was scared shitless of Gaara the first time he saw him, then went on to defeat him.
Sakura was scared of Madara when she saw him, then went on to confront him but was blocked by Limbo which she couldn't see nor sense. Sakura was frightened of Kaguya, then went on to punch her.
One thing happening prior doesn't disprove the latter.

This.

Even One Piece is being treated better than Naruto on this site these days bruh that a ******* L

One Piece is irrelevant to this thread.

Y’all I got a wonderful Sakura/Shin proposal (some other dude pretty much got it down pat already), I’m just waiting for damage to awake so he has a realistic shot of seeing it. Personally, I say, we wait for the Sakura/Shin addendum and move on for the time being

I think there's agreement regarding pretty much everything else aside from the Tier 4 stuff that was dropped.

 

[Jibz]

Personally, I say, we wait for the Sakura/Shin addendum and move on for the time being

sure (i wish to see chaos)

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I messaged damage so he sees it and doesn’t have to sift through 4-5 pages to find it, so until then wait for his response in this thread regarding Shinkura.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I could just call it a headcanon and something untypical and go about my day, because it just doesn't make sense narratively, If we were going to pick up untypical things, I should warn you that this will create a circular scale so large that I don't even want to go into it.

It's not headcanon, the feats literally exist.

There are so many things in Boruto that go against the narrative, that's not the best argument.

5-B Kakashi sounds goated

Also it was stated Boruto Era Kakashi's significantly stronger than when he was fighting Obito and Madara, but not than when he was fighting Kaguya, meaning DMS Kakashi>Kashin Koji

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

but not than when he was fighting Kaguya, meaning DMS Kakashi>Kashin Koji

Does it specifically say “not when fighting Kaguya”

 

[BlastX]

Y’all I got a wonderful Sakura/Shin proposal (some other dude pretty much got it down pat already), I’m just waiting for damage to awake so he has a realistic shot of seeing it. Personally, I say, we wait for the Sakura/Shin addendum and move on for the time being

Let me guess, The Tier 5 stuff is left as a possibly

 

[Jseymore]

Didn't kakashi get wrecked by fooder shinboi in that same novel?

No. He bullied every ninja and held back. He invented new ways to NOT kill ninjas and subdued all of them.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Let me guess, The Tier 5 stuff is left as a possibly

No lol be patient it’s pretty much what that one dude cyber and I hyped up said

 

[Gokukid2005]

No. He bullied every ninja and held back. He invented new ways to NOT kill ninjas and subdued all of them.

I think he was referring to Kakashi Shinden.
That was the one were Kakashi purposely dropped his "fighting spirit" so fodder could beat him up.

 

[Gokukid2005]

No lol be patient it’s pretty much what that one dude cyber and I hyped up said

UwU

 

[Jseymore]

Ahh okay got it. Thought he was talking about the new Kakashi novel.

 

[Tdjwo]

Quick question. What constitutes for basic AP scaling in the Narutoverse? Is it Chakra output=AP
OR
Chakra reserves+Potency=AP.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Quick question. What constitutes for basic AP scaling in the Narutoverse? Is it Chakra output=AP
OR
Chakra reserves+Potency=AP.

Iirc chakra control + chakra amount = ap

 

[Cyberblader90]

Quick question. What constitutes for basic AP scaling in the Narutoverse? Is it Chakra output=AP
OR
Chakra reserves+Potency=AP.

we have a thread for this actually

https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-ultimate-chakra-thread-sure-will-show-off-some-ultimate-skillz-and-poggers-that-will-give-yall-the-ultimate-omega-kcm-level-debuff-mental-daze.122423/

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Does it specifically say “not when fighting Kaguya”

No, but the fact that it specified "when he was fighting Obito and Madara" would heavily suggest that he's not stronger than DMS Kakashi. Otherwise, why not just say "when he was fighting in the 4th war" or even better, "when he was fighting Kaguya."

 

[Tdjwo]

Iirc chakra control + chakra amount = ap

So basically my second option. Thanks. This further proves my point I'm about to make for The last Base Naruto

 

[Cyberblader90]

i would read the link i posted in detail

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

No lol be patient it’s pretty much what that one dude cyber and I hyped up said

Arc in the Shin Sakura scaling is Shin scaling in General to Naruto & Sasuke or just with his MS Weapon TK?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

So basically my second option. Thanks. This further proves my point I'm about to make for The last Base Naruto

Read the thread cyber linked

No, but the fact that it specified "when he was fighting Obito and Madara" would heavily suggest that he's not stronger than DMS Kakashi. Otherwise, why not just say "when he was fighting in the 4th war" or even better, "when he was fighting Kaguya."

DMS has that nasty dura neg that Kakashi doesn’t normally have, hence my hesitancy, but if majority staff agree then it’s fine

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Arc in the Shin Sakura scaling is Shin scaling in General to Naruto & Sasuke or just with his MS Weapon TK?

I think that’s what the current debate is about

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Read the thread cyber linked



DMS has that nasty dura neg that Kakashi doesn’t normally have, hence my hesitancy, but if majority staff agree then it’s fine

He also has Six Paths Chakra directly from Obito as well so his Physicals increased too.

 

[Cyberblader90]

dms has dura neg statements in the data book if i recall, or at least kamui does

kamui ripped off the gedo mazo's arm like butter

 

[Tdjwo]

Read the thread cyber linked

Yeah. Already did.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Seems fast for ten minutes stick out your tongue I can tell if you’re lying

 

[Tdjwo]

Seems fast for ten minutes stick out your tongue I can tell if you’re lying

To be honest, I've seen the post before and just glanced through it again.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

 

[Tdjwo]

No one ever believes me

 

[MinatoSparkle]

DMS has that nasty dura neg that Kakashi doesn’t normally have, hence my hesitancy, but if majority staff agree then it’s fine

Tbf, he DOES also have the Perfect Susanoo.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Not sure if you guys have moved past the entire no chakra naruto = average human.
I read the novel, it’s been a while but I can remember some stuff and I can say in no world is no chakra = average human, unless you think
1. An average human on life support can ride a bicycle and dodge light beams
2. An average human can take a jug and use it to parry light beams
3. An average human can head butt a satellite that would have endangered earth if it falls.
All these iirc tho.

Peace hombres

 

[Livinmeme]

Because aside from the Six Paths Chibaku Tensei itself, virtually none of these characters have feats on any level remotely close to this.

I question the very nature of the Six Paths Chibaku Tensei scaling to their typical attack potency in the first case. It's just blindly accepting powerscaling to say "Oh, if Hagoromo and Hamura could move the Chibaku Tensei into orbit over this amount of time, then they can throw a punch that can destroy the planet too." Who says they can do this? We do, by pure conjecture. Then it spirals outward from there. "Oh, they can make their durability this level because they output that amount of chakra per seconds." "Oh, this characters scales to Planet level because they clashed weapons with this other character."

Do these characters show any sign that they're that powerful without that one specific jutsu? No? Huh, how's that for consistency.


My biggest issue is that there is no damn consistency in this. Everyone is just being rated Planet level for the sake of it. Any supporting proof? Nope, not really. We have one calculation. I think a healthy degree of skepticism is warrnated when upgrades are this vast and all-inclusive.


I can totally understand why KT quit. I'm so sick of VS Battles powerscaling being handwaved as an excuse to rate everyone so far above their feats.

That ain't how Outliers works my boy, outliers are when a guy feats contradict another feat, not great jumps betwen tiers, naruto could have an 3-A feat without creating 0 problems in the scaling and not being an outlier. And still would be counted as an outlier. So yeah... I am kinda tired of people trying to dissmiss any good jumping tier by saying that is an ¨outlier¨ even if that is not how it works

 

[Panache_x]

50% SPSM KCM

Does Naruto chakra getting drained in half affects his potency or stamina
Just wanna be clear on that aspect

 

[Shadyboi0]

Agreed with everything

 

[Damage3245]

You’re not really giving any reasons why. I don’t see why you felt the need to bring up Madara either, he has nothing to do with this, bringing him up just makes it seem like you don’t believe they should be that strong.

I'm bringing him up because the feats I'm seeing from them don't put them on his level.

Don't you think it'd be a big deal, considering the importance that Otsutsuki level fighters are given, if there was an army out there of hundreds of cloned Otsutsuki-level Shins?