Ren Fuji vs The Presence

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

It's time to put one of the strongest characters in western comics to one of the strongest anime characters. Who wins

Link to Ren

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ren_Fuji

Link to the Presence

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Ren stomps

 

[Bob8999]

I assume they are both 1-A?

i side with the presence due to, Law Manipulation(Shaped existence and its laws into effect), Probability Manipulation (All things happen due to his will, as he decides every variable and law), Void Manipulation, Abstract Existence (type 1), and Time Manipulation. to which ren has no answers as far as I can tell.

 

[Eganergo]

Haha

 

[PsychoWarper]

Ren stomps via having a bigger infinity.

Also Hadou/Gadou gods are literally known for their Law Manipulaton since thats basically the basis of their power.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I assume they are both 1-A?
i side with the presence due to, Law Manipulation(Shaped existence and its laws into effect), Probability Manipulation (All things happen due to his will, as he decides every variable and law), Void Manipulation, Abstract Existence (type 1), and Time Manipulation. to which ren has no answers as far as I can tell.

 

[NihilDifficileAmanti]

Ren stomps. He brings out Shirou who can crush any supernatural abilities when his Atziluth is active and the presence becomes a mere human.

 

[Maicol2244]

Ren would win

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Ren bangs him.

Ren Hadou God is like 50x stronger than The Presence

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I assume they are both 1-A?

i side with the presence due to, Law Manipulation(Shaped existence and its laws into effect), Probability Manipulation (All things happen due to his will, as he decides every variable and law), Void Manipulation, Abstract Existence (type 1), and Time Manipulation. to which ren has no answers as far as I can tell.

Facepalm

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Ren bangs him.

Ren Hadou God is like 50x stronger than The Presence

>50

>im sorry w0t

 

[Ravenous4th]

Ren bangs him.
Ren Hadou God is like 50x stronger than The Presence

I don't think "x50" is anywhere near the actual difference between even a god with 1 Taikyoku and the Presence.

But this is a sutompu.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I mean I don't know how much The Presence is above baseline?

 

[Dvorak1902]

I mean I don't know how much The Presence is above baseline?

Yeah. But not to Masada's ridiculous extent.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Lucifer is like 3-4x above baseline and Presence is vastly above that so how much is The Presence above baseline 1-A?

 

[Ravenous4th]

Your question shouldn't be "how much above baseline is Presence" but more "how much above baseline is Ren"

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Ren is ridiculously above baseline.

 

[PsychoWarper]

A God with 1 Taikyoku exists so far above the Singularity that infinite is to small of a word to describe it, the Singularity is infinite levels of transcendence above baseline 1-A.

With all this Ren has 90 Taikyoku, each level of Taikyoku is above the last conventionally greater than platonic transcendence.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

If Ren brings out Shirou then its game over for The Presence in the starting moments. IIRC, a newly emanated Ren erased Five of the Artificial Gods from Reinhard's Army quite easily. Presence doesn't stand a chance.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Ren one shots ƒÿæ

 

[RM97]

Question, may I see the scans/post/blog where this "Singularity is infinite levels of transcendence above baseline 1-A" is given???

 

[Ravenous4th]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3357357

If you have questions, you may ask me in the blog.

There is no scan that directly says it's an hierarchy, that's why I used the word "pseudo-hierarchy" instead - but the function is still similar in tiering them.

Yakou also stated that Singularity has "levels" of depth, with each being higher in quality.

 

[Maxnumb231]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3357357

If you have questions, you may ask me in the blog.

There is no scan that directly says it's an hierarchy, that's why I used the word "pseudo-hierarchy" instead - but the function is still similar in tiering them.

Yakou also stated that Singularity has "levels" of depth, with each being higher in quality.

Does the throne have tiering like is it beyomd dimensionality? Cuz some told me that its just a tool for hadou gods cuz they are basically painting machine blah bla

 

[Ravenous4th]

The throne is beyond dimensional.

You might want to come to my wall to ask stuffs instead of stealth bumping the thread.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Presence stomps

 

[Ravenous4th]

Presence FRA.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

.ARF ecneserP

 

[Eganergo]

Batman solos.

 

[PsychoWarper]

1-A Matches are bad FRB.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Presence stomps

Can you elaborate?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Hes memeing/joking, this should be closed anyway.

 

[Infera28]

Ren stomp

 

[PsychoWarper]

Masada matches are banned

 

[BakiHanma18]

Masada matches are banned

Does the ban also apply to matches that started before the ban?

 

[PsychoWarper]

I mean I feel like it should but either way this isnt a good match.

 

[BakiHanma18]

I mean I feel like it should but either way this isnt a good match.

Agreed, I've seen 3 Masadaverse v DC matches over the course of 30 mins and I already think it should be banned

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Well, I made this back in august, I don't even know why so many people are doing irae vs DC right now

 

[BakiHanma18]

Well, I made this back in august, I don't even know why so many people are doing irae vs DC right now

Especially since Masadaverse is banned rn

 

[R2rokid9]

If we are to consider the Masadaverse cosmology vs DC verse, then Ren does hold a greater power advantage.

Ren gets my vote.

 

[Dvorak1902]

Please don't bump this anymore.