Dragon Ball - The Biggest CRT

[GokuBlacksolosyourverse]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-true-canon-of-dragon-ball.118684/

You should understand that Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Super is owned by Toei and they were never stated to be canon in the Tokyo Skytree + Viz North America Tour



The Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Z Kai, and Dragon Ball Super anime all adapt content from their respective manga series. As a result, the adapt and depict canon content. However, they also depict original content that falls outside the preview of canon (i.e., the Garlic Jr. Saga or Copy Vegeta Saga)

I mean we should move all DBS' pages from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball (Toei)

Evidences: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CscJHTYONWVwueCL6EkNUlvPCL22uzpAiBRxZlaajjQ/edit#

About the Toei page... The Movies and DBGT' events do not scale to Toei DBZ Anime and DBS Anime. Moreover, Movies does not scale to DBGT

https://pm1.narvii.com/6630/87afca239249dbd4cabde7a102c0ae0f50357802_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/6630/c7281b16cdd0372d554437ac0989cf5a9453bf4e_hq.jpg

So...

1. Remove Non-Physical Interaction for GT Goku, Gogeta and Vegeta (Ghost Warriors aren't exist in GT)
2. Add Resistance to Sleep Manipulation, Heat Manipulation and Acids for DBS Goku, Goku Black, Fusion Zamasu, Vegito and Gogeta (Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball Super were owned by Toei so Goku and others should have all abilities from their DBZ version)
3. Seperate the movies and anime
4. Remove Soul Manipulation for GT Gogeta (GT Gogeta does not have Stardust Breaker)
5. Move DBS characters from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball (Toei)

 

[Nullflowerblush]

This was not even worth a read.

You kinda need a bit more evidence that the Super anime is actually connected to the Z anime which should be a given, but whatever.

 

[DragonLord]

We already had another CRT going on of splitting movie Goku and anime Goku, though it was still agreed upon to keep GT’s Movie Scaling iirc

 

[RisingIons]

Pretty sure Super's anime came out before the manga did, which is taking an entirely different path so far.

 

[sanicspood]

1. Seperate the movies and anime

we are literally doing this already

 

[GokuBlacksolosyourverse]

@sanicspood But we never can do that

 

[sanicspood]

@sanicspood But we never can do that

what?

 

[DragonLord]

I mean if you want to help separating them you can refer to here

https://vsbattles.com/threads/dropping-dbz-movie-scaling-for-toei-goku.115856

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This has been brought up so many times...

 

[Anime_Facts]

Bump

 

[sanicspood]

why are u bumping this shit

 

[Anime_Facts]

is interesting

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Soo I guess the real Canon is DBS manga

 

[DivineAura44]

No.

 

[TauanVictor]

I disagree.

 

[AerrowStorm1]

Pretty sure Super's anime came out before the manga did, which is taking an entirely different path so far.

Nope. Manga's first chapter was released June 20th, 2015

The anime didn't premiere until 2 weeks later, July 5th, 2015

 

[DivineAura44]

Nope. Manga's first chapter was released June 20th, 2015

The anime didn't premiere until 2 weeks later, July 5th, 2015

Movies.

 

[Tarang123]

Soo I guess the real Canon is DBS manga

Definitely not.

 

[Tarang123]

The "true" canon of DBS is Akira Toriyama's notes. Both anime and manga are merely interpretations of said notes, and both are equally canon. Tho, if the anime does come back and has a Moro Arc, it will likely be below the manga, until things are "equalized" again.

 

[AerrowStorm1]

Movies.

Were stated by Toiyama to be originally written as continuations of the manga, and the ROF Movie and the Broly movie are canon to the manga.

 

[DivineAura44]

Continuations of the DBZ Manga. This is about DBS. The movies aren't connected to the manga.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

the ROF Movie

ehh...

 

[AerrowStorm1]

Continuations of the DBZ Manga. This is about DBS. The movies aren't connected to the manga.

That's factually untrue.

1. The ROF Manga explicitly mentions watching the movie to continue the story and the manga mentions and flashes back to it

2. The events of the Broly movie are also mentioned and flash backed to in the manga

 

[DivineAura44]

Man they have Uub in DBS Manga. Is GT connected to Super?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The ROF Manga explicitly mentions watching the movie to continue the story

Prove the Resurrection 'F' promotional manga is canon to the Super manga.
"But Toyotaro wrote it!" He also wrote the Victory Mission manga.

the manga mentions and flashes back to it

It flashes back to the events of the Golden Frieza Saga but again, unless they explicitly state that the movie is a stand-in for the missing arc, nuh-uh.

Man they have Uub in DBS Manga. Is GT connected to Super?

False equivalence?
What were you even trying to prove?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

WHY ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING THIS???

 

[DivineAura44]

False equivalence?
What were you even trying to prove?

Uub appeared in a vision, just like Frieza.

 

[Arceus0x]

Soo I guess the real Canon is DBS manga

the real canon is the dragon balls we met along the way

 

[AerrowStorm1]

Prove the Resurrection 'F' promotional manga is canon to the Super manga.
"But Toyotaro wrote it!" He also wrote the Victory Mission manga.

It flashes back to the events of the Golden Frieza Saga but again, unless they explicitly state that the movie is a stand-in for the missing arc, nuh-uh.

False equivalence?
What were you even trying to prove?

Because the events of it are mentioned in the Super manga, and again, if they flash back to the events of the movie, it's pretty clear the movie is canon

 

[Nullflowerblush]

if they flash back to the events of the movie

What if they're flashing back to the anime?
Or the Xenoverse DLC story?
Or a Dokkan Battle Event?
What if they are flashing back to events that occured in the manga story that are not 1:1 with the movie.

You'd figure that with the manga's Battle of Gods Saga being so radically different from that of the movie, people would get a clue, but phbttt.

 

[DaReaperMan]

WHY ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING THIS???

Fun

 

[Kulf_Boba]

bump

 

[Gonzalo]

Bump