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Hello everyone. Since Ultima's tiering revision has gone through, this CRT is made to change the justifications of the current 1-A/High 1-A D&D profiles.
Rad
To me this is the most straightforward example to do. The current justification is
With an adjusted justification being
The 1-A...
The Princess Profile
The Long Quiet's Profile
If you spot any mistakes or want to add more/have issues with the suggested statistics please comment. To get into the meat I guess:
The Princess
The Princesses profile is split into what amounts to be four sections
Her base key
Her various route...
Currently the size of the main planet in Sonic is accepted as 184,000 kilometers based on a pixel calc and angsizing. This is officially against our rules, which need to have some in-universe indication of the planet being notably larger or more massive. Such as improbable distances, confirmed...
Since I missed it in the last thread, Smasher in the 2.1 Update has a counter ICE program and can shut down V's Cyberdeck if they attempt to stack Quickhacks on them and when resetting it Smasher will blind V for a bit.
Its not an upgrade, it would just be adding the following to his...
Currently the UNSC Infinity's Super MACs are rated as:
However they should be higher.
Halo: Shadows of Reach has the following statement on page 240:
3,000 Tons at 0.25c is 8.4258298006577E+21 Joules or Low 6-B.
Consider the UNSC Infinity has four Super MACs, it should be Low 6-B with one...
With the Ultimate Edition out we now have all the updates (to my knowledge) that the game is going to get. With that we can finally finish the Cyberpunk profiles.
Profile Changes
V's profile basically has to be overhauled. I've done so here and while it still could be better still more...
Special thanks to @Dark-Carioca
About a year ago I made this thread, promptly forgot about it and it died. But this time I've actually done work!
Draft for Black Flame Jason and Canon Jason
Draft for Clone Jason
In addition, even if the above isn't acceptable, I do think the wording for...
Current profile.
The issue
So what's the issue? Everything.
This is the current justification
This is entirely wrong.
To quote from the Macharian Crusade Omnibus
To summarize the above:
Daemon didn't cause the effects, a Ritual did
The Daemon was being sucked into the warp the entire...
...Daemon was something like 20 meters tall and weighing 100 tons he'd take at most Tier 6 levels of energy
Daemon's surface area = BSA = 0.016667 * Weight^0.5 * Height^0.5 = 0.016667 * 100,000^0.5 * 20^0.5 = 23.57069 square meters
Earth's surface area = 510,100,000 square kilometers or...
Hello again.
So quite some time ago I made a cosmology blog and it was accepted. One of the ratings was Low 1-A, however, upon reading more into it I believe I made a mistake with that rating.
Justifications for 1-A Old Ones
So currently the rating is based on this album. In it, the...
Hello everyone, this thread is a focus point for some minor profile changes and adding some new stuff to the verse:
Adam Smasher
Of all the profiles Adam would need the least amount of work. Basically just expanding his third key and making his ratings better justified.
Sandbox is here
V...
Warning - A decent amount of the linked feats are NSFW/Gore heavy in their descriptions. So if you don't like that stuff you might want to get off the thread now.
Alright, so this CRT is covering the Five Novels produced by Black Flame in 2005 to 2006. In release order the novels are:
Church...
So the current calc for spine rips is that it requires about 1 million newtons of force based on the VSauce video about it.
My question is isn't this video talking about vertical/neck-based spine rips and more importantly isn't it about doing it all at once? Even the demonstration was based on...
Hello everyone, its time for by semi-annual D&D CRT that effects entirely to many profiles to be considered reasonable.
In this case quite some time ago @Dragonstitch's calc here was accepted, but with the note to prevent weird scaling issues that it would only apply for CR 9+ creatures since...
Hello all of four people reading this thread!
Jokes aside this is a minor thread about two minor upgrades to Jason's last key for his OG timeline self since two calcs have been accepted:
Jason survives an orbital slingshot
Jason does some mad hops
So as a note:
This is Jason's final key and...
What this thread is not covering:
Radahn's star feat: Its already agreed on being used as a possibly rating
Ranni/Rennela's starry field: Agreed on it just being an illusion with no real evidence that the location took place in any real space
What this thread is covering:
The Elden Beast...
Gets your memes out of the way now.
The video
Anyways on topic I vaguely remember a CRT saying that if we use an offsite calculation it has to be accepted by the calc group members here.
So the calc is about the force that General Radahn from Elden Ring swings his swords, which comes out to 2...
So in the same vein as this really excellent Michael Myers CRT lets adjust Jason's P&A keys a bit (only look me like five months).
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Qawsedf234/Jason_P%26A?venotify=created
So some of the changes
Giving Human Jason some regeneration since he recovered from...
In regards to VS Matches and the like prep is used as a completely nebulous term that its up to the user to figure out. My goal here it to at least make basic overviews of different levels of prep. As an arbitrary example:
The point of this thread is to mostly define what something like "Both...
To prevent clutter for the MCU General Thread keep all discussion for MoM here until a couple months have passed.
Read at your own risk
Tag all spoilers
Intentionally spoiling anything for anyone will result in a warning and then a temp ban
Idk that's about it. Go wild.
Odin Borson (Mavel Comics) vs Odin (Dungeons and Dragons)
Speed: Equalized
Mindset: In-character
Standard gear
Prep: They know the other is an alternate version of themselves. Otherwise none.
Location: One of the floating planet continents of Ysgard
Starting Distance: 15 meters / 50 Feet
The...
I had forgotten to do this. But my calc here has been accepted, so I propose the following change to Jason X
To
However, there's some caveats to this which is why I'm not asking for a straight upgrade
Jason surviving while estimated to be true was not confirmed
We don't know if Jason survived...
The Rating
Currently everyone pre-MGR is scaled to the following calc.
The issue here is the source used for the reasoning
And this is what the calc uses as justification for the speed
That's literally not how railguns or miniaturization works in any capacity
Railguns require both a...
So recently Amazon released a spin off show. Usually I'd probably just say its non canon but this tweet does exist
So in Episode 8, which from what I can tell doesn't break anything with the show canon, has some feats from Homelander
As a child he can dent/fragment steel and concrete
He can...
Original Thread.
So two things recently happened: Leatherface got a new movie and I actually decided to watch the originals after like 15 years. While they fell off a cliff after the second one, the fourth movie did mention this.
While there's some lore and family contradictions, seemingly...
Okay so to start off I believe the 4-A scaling chain for Samurai Jack is incorrect. Its based on two showings: Cronus and the Nameless Evil
Cronus
This is the current reasoning
So here's the issue here
The starry sky thing, if you look at it, none of the stars are actually eaten. What I mean...
Okay time to finally get this sorted through.
Class <100
Currently the scaling is based on Deathlok, but considering AoS has been somewhat decanonized it being used a basis for half the franchise isn't really useable at the moment
Winter Soldier's Class 100 feat with the metal arm is fine, but...
I recently stumbled upon this totally valid scientific source.
As such, lightning is only 1,100 feet per second rather than our incredibly highballed out of date numbers. This is, of course, a site wide policy change and effects hundreds of profiles at the very least.
Thoughts?
Well since Matrix 4 came out and I'm 90% sure if I don't do this no one will I guess its time to tackle this
Speed
Okay so the speed ratings are all over the place and are generally not super good. For example Morpheus and Neo are rated like this
Yet Ghost and Niobe are this
Here's the...
Currently all the profiles are scaling from Electro. The reasoning being given is this
So after going through the dialouge of every single episode of the series this is the singular time where I think this is even brought up
As you can guess, that is not really solid evidence for speed or...
So generally we have a lot of issue regarding the Civil War fight since it leads to strange ratings, but we more or less have accepted that it is what it is. However, the canon MCU databook the Wakanda Files has this passage about the Civil War Iron Man armor
The armor was never designed for...
The current profile.
This is her current lifting strength justification
So looking at the calc it looks fine... until you get the source for the mPa figure. What's the source you ask? Well here it is. Now if it open the link this should be the first thing that jumps out to you
And when we go...
So with the new movie out and some nice guy giving me a bunch of Thorn TL novel excerpts I thought we may need a CRT for Michael
2018/Final Timeline
Michael needs to get fire/heat resistance for being a house fire with no issue
We can add another scan for his superhuman lifting strength also I...
So this is about our 6-C scaling which comes from Elemental Princes such as Imix. The issue is as follows more or less
In 3e and in 4e all of the Elemental Princes are rated massively higher than they in 5e. In 3e for example Imix's avatar is a CR 17, which is what 5e Imix is rated at in his...
Current profile.
I'm suggesting a definition change for his key. Why? Because this is not a normal Pinhead. After becoming Human again and breaking the devices of the Toymaker, he found an ancient being (implied to be Satan) that granted him the ability to break his mortal limits. That combined...
This staff thread has been accepted. With it comes a much harder definition of what travel speed is
The Feat
Pikon and Goku fly to Hell in Episode 195 of Dragon Ball Z. The entire sequence is off screen and there's no indication that they had to react to anything from Point A to Point B.
As...
The Premise
The alternate calc in question
As pointed out a few times in other threads, Orochi likely does not actually pull actual mass from the core. He only mentions energy being pulled up and there's no indication that he swallowed 2 Quintillion tons of material or that he dragged that...
SV Superman has showcased the ability to crush coal into diamond in Season 5 of the show and a calc for this type of feat can be seen here.
So what I'm proposing is that anyone who scales to Season 5 to 10 Clark get upgraded from Class 25/K to Class G
This staff thread has been accepted. With it comes a much harder definition of what travel speed is
The Feat
Currently the MFTL+ ratings come from Green Lantern Ring movements and Superman flying to another galaxy within 6 hours. The only one that maybe requires MFTL+ speed is the ring when...
This staff thread has been accepted. With it comes a much harder definition of what travel speed is
The Feats
More or less every single movie MCU character is scaled to this Iron Man calc and this Iron Man calc
For reference the scene in question (the relevant part being 0:51) has the armor...