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  • You said that there is a difference in power between destroying a Low 1-C structure and infinite Low 1-C structures, right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    If I'm right, I saw others on the staff saying that there is no difference in power between x character who destroyed one or infinite Low 1-C structures.

    Do you think a topic about this respect should be made to put something concrete into this?
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    Qawsedf234
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    If I'm right, I saw others on the staff saying that there is no difference in power between x character who destroyed one or infinite Low 1-C structures.
    Well, they'd be wrong ad our own Tiering System says
    Characters or objects that are capable of significantly affecting,[1] creating, and/or destroying an area of space qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. Common fictional examples of spaces representing such sizes are space-time continuums (the entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) of a universal scale. However, it can be more generally fulfilled by any 4-dimensional space that is either:

    There's a difference tiering wise between a universal space and a infinite space. In addition a multiverse of a higher tier would be better than a baseline of that tier for the same reason 2-A is better than Low 2-C.
    Do you think a topic about this respect should be made to put something concrete into this?
    A topic doesn't do anything system wise. It's only purpose would be for like, VS debates I guess.
    Phsccarvalho
    Phsccarvalho
    I did a Q&A about this, could you go there and give your opinions?
    Sorry for distributing. Can I get your input here? It would be appreciated 🙏
    Are two universes (4D) parallel to each other and need a 5D space to contain them? And the reason why?
    Wikisource
    Wikisource
    So it will still be considered a 5th axis according to the standard even though it does not qualify for Low-1C ?
    Qawsedf234
    Qawsedf234
    Yeah. Since the 5th dimensional axis has to be of a certain size to get Low 1-C. And a 2-A structure isn't enough for that.
    Wikisource
    Wikisource
    Last question, is it considered 5D even though it's not actually enough for Low 1-C? I just want to clarify whether it is really considered 5D or simply 4D but larger than usual.
    Sorry to bother you, but if you have time, can you look at this?
    You are wrong here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/why-not-sailor-moon-tier-one-the-last-time.160600/post-6171749

    King Endymion says: The spacetime key will allow you to find your way back to sailor pluto from any point in time and space.

    Key word, find your way back from. Meaning that if you use the key at any point in space and time, you will travel to pluto.

    Then Endymion says in the next line: "Say a prayer to the key and travel through time." He does not say travel through space and time.

    When you use the key you will travel through through time to pluto from any point in space and time.
    Iamunanimousinthat
    Iamunanimousinthat
    No that's wrong. They do not use the time key to leave the area or to travel through time. They only use it to take them to bring them to Sailor Pluto. Once they are in the corridor, it's Sailor Pluto who sends them through time.
    Iamunanimousinthat
    Iamunanimousinthat
    In the future, Sailor Moon uses the key and it brings her to Pluto.
    In the past, they use the key also and it brings them to Pluto as well.
    Another supporting fact is that when the key was used, it was directly called a time warp.

    As King Endymion says, they key brings them to Pluto via time travel no matter where they are in time or space. In both scenes, the characters say a prayer and the key takes them to Pluto.
    Iamunanimousinthat
    Iamunanimousinthat
    Hey! Just checking to see if you saw that I edited the last response. I added a scan that directly calls the usage of the time key as “initiating a time warp”.
    Hello! Can you please check this out!


    Can I make 1 post to ask a question in this thread?
    It's mostly regarding the time travel part and instances for branching timelines if branches become independent. but instead of time travel it's more on rewrite and erasure that somehow despite erasing the entirety including the past the other independent branch isn't affected in any way. I will be posting imagery to convey the questions as well
    When I said "They were talking about editing the profiles." I meant You were talking about editing the profiles (and them possibly getting reverted because of pending staff discussions being the reason why you disagreed on applying the upgrades right now).
    I wasn't trying to play 8D chess,I just wanted to inform the people there about what was happening in the staff thread but just worded it poorly.
    Qawsedf234
    Qawsedf234
    Oh by the chess move comment I meant you wanted to respond to me about a staff thread without needing approval.

    I got what your intention was after reading some of the previous comments so no worries.
    Sorry for bothering you Can I get permission to comment on this crt


    thread has been made.
    Sorry to bother you, but if you have time, could you give section 5.1 of my blog a glance?
    Hi can you look at this pls

    sorry to bother you, but from this thread, i don't exactly know how to write the explanation for the blog, would you mind give me some ideas, references example, tbh, it is confusing, thank you very much, it is for DBH/XV anyway
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    I'd include DT's quote
    Depends on context, but possibly yes. Although that hinges on the word time travel.

    Like, fundamentally you could say that you have one timeline that spans multiversal space. In the beginning, that space is empty. Then you rewrite the past so that 3 universes already existed in the space (which is the same as creating 3 timelines). So you rewrite the timeline of the multiversal space.
    Then you do the same again to add 5 more.

    Technically, you could say you only spawned several more multiverse spanning timelines. Like, now a empty multiverse spanning timeline, a multiverse spanning timeline with 3 universes and a multiverse spanning timeline with 8 universes exist. The total number of timelines is only 11.
    If you are able to travel between multiverse spanning timelines, you would also be able to switch back from the multiverse spanning timeline with 8 universes to the one without any universes/timelines.

    However, if you do that specifically via time travel, then that could be a good indicator that you are actually dealing with an additional time dimension. Because that indicates that the progression of the creation of timelines is done within a (presumably continuous) flow of time and that time wouldn't be that of the regular past where those universes always existed.
    And the the FAQ page

    Q: How do temporal dimensions impact on tiering?​

    A: The relationship between the spatial dimensions of a universe and the additional temporal dimension(s) may be visualized as something akin to the frames of a movie placed side-by-side. Basically, the time-like direction may be thought of as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the whole universe at any given moment, with the set of all such events comprising the totality of spacetime.

    This structure can then be generalized to any number of dimensions, which is why destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A). For example, a higher spacetime continuum with two temporal dimensions (instead of just one) comprises a higher temporal axis that spans regular temporal dimensions that the entirety of 4-dimensional spacetimes, or equivalents to it are serviced by (This is similar to how the time dimension in a 4-dimensional spacetime continuum spans uncountably infinite 3-dimensional snapshots of the universe), qualifying it for Low 1-C. Unless fiction shows otherwise, a different multiversal temporal dimension spanning universes that themselves have their own time dimensions as well (not the same multiversal time dimension that services many Universes and is shared by them), or even a single universe with two active temporal dimensions, qualifies. The same applies to three or more temporal dimensions.
    Then since you know the verse better than I do, just give the following justifications:
    • The timelines are separate from one another. In other words its not a branching timeline but a bunch of separate timelines
    • When time travelling you make your own specific timeline rather than branching out a previous timeline
    • Showcase that if one timeline is erased another timeline is unaffected
    Then with the above say "Since Dragon Ball fulfills the above standards, each overarching timeline should be considered to have a different temporal dimension. Which would fit the criteria for a Low 1-C Hyper Timeline" or something like that.
    Hi Qawsedf, you've been actively involved in this thread.

    A different thread has now been opened for Ben10 and one of its foundations is still the same, 5-D space beyond.

    But there weren't enough votes, so I'm going to ask you to open this up again , because Space Beyond's downgrade from 5-D will also affect the new upgrade thread
    Hello, good morning from Brazil!
    Don't know who else to call, can you take a look on this thread? The discussion became very circular
    Hello

    Cab you check this thread, please?

    Uh, can u give your input on this thread?
    I will like to comment on this thread, if you do not mind.
    Can I get permission to make a post here?

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    Qawsedf234
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    To avoid clutter I would ask that if you're both on the same side of the debate to work together to make a singular large comment, rather than two separate comments that would cover the same idea.

    But yeah you two can make (up to) three comments if you feel like you can add to the debate..
    BasedNecoScaler69
    BasedNecoScaler69
    My bad, didnt see the fact it was a staff discussion, i got linked to it over discord and it just went straight to the post.
    Can i recieve permission to comment? Also, restore my earlier comment with the images.
    Qawsedf234
    Qawsedf234
    If I restore your post it will count as one of your three comments.

    But sure. Though like with the other two I would suggest to take your time with posting.
    Howdy, I'm Lemon, Lemon the Lemon and... wrong verse, any way feel free to ignore this mensage but there is a verse on the wiki full of bad profiles and me and the other supporters of the verse made a radical decision that need aproval and action of staff to happen, would You do this for this verse who always come back? Yes, It's FNAF
    Hey Qawsed, my thread is lacking staff input...
    Hey, could you please check out this thread?
    I know you probably aren't a supporter but at the same time I'd like your honest opinion
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