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Hello everyone, now that Black Winter's profile is done I can move for Knull Anyway I'm starting
Abstract Existence Type 2
As far as we know, there are two concepts in the Marvel Universe: love and hate (two opposite concepts). One of them (love) is TOAA's and the other (hate) is TOBA's weapon. This means that TOBA lacks the concept of love and TOAA lacks the concept of hate because these are two opposite concepts. TOBA always wants to destroy everything, to crush everything, to be alone, whereas TOAA doesn't want to be alone and he always creates things. He builds like an engineer. As a result, one side naturally lacks the concept of hate and has the concept of love as a weapon; the other side lacks the concept of love and likewise has the concept of hate as a weapon.
The simplest example of this is the Immortal Hulk: Time of the Monsters series
TOBA grants powers to Taamuz (to take revenge), who participates in the concept of hate, and TOBA grants him gamma power and enables him to take revenge.
Taamuz serves this concept by taking his revenge, and the fact that TOBA hates everything/everyone and owns this concept of hate shows that he embodies this concept.
Knull is an aspect of TOBA and this means that he embodies the concept of hate just like TOBA. Knull also extinguished all the stars he passed over before it came to earth, and on all the planets he passed over, he massacred and took peoples life. Billions of souls are gone. Knull, like TOBA, not only hated light, he hated everything.
As a result Knull should get Abstract exitence type 2 because he embodies this concept just like TOBA.
Type 2 Concept of Hate
Concept of hate should be type 2. The reason is that even killing everyone who belongs to this concept does not destroy it. Undoubtedly, other beings have unwittingly joined in this concept because of some incidents they have experienced and so on (the simplest example was Taamuz)). To put an end to this concept, it is enough to destroy the concept itself
NEP Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 2
Knull is the embodiment of Abyss. And Abyss is a void with NEP Nature type 1
Knull has NEP Nature type 1 because Knull = Abyss. Also, Knull has NEP Aspect type 2 because he is an aspect of TOBA, so he naturally lacks TOAA's concept of love
Another Aspect type 2 basis is that Knull is the opposite of the concept of light, which means that he lacks it.
Immortality Type 8
Since Knull is the embodiment of Abyss, no matter how much he dies, he can come back thanks to Abyss (in order to destroy him completely, it is necessary to destroy Abyss) also
Knull himself states this as well. Before he dies, he tells Eddie that he will not set him free, implying that he will come back. He also says that the Abyss is an infinite void (at that moment Eddie was taking him to kill him and Knull was aware that he was going to die, he had fought and defeated by him beforehand), he essentially states that he will come back, and stated that Knull returns in the future and never fully died
Attack Potency: High Outerverse Level
He fought with Herald of None Thor and was able to overpower and defeat him. He also severely injured him and could have killed him if he wanted to, but he didn't and turned to Dylan.
He is referred to as the threat to the 8th Cosmos Multi-Eternity and this is stated in more than ones
durability:low outerverse level
Tanked some attacks from God of light
Immeasurable Speed
In his battle with Hon-Thor, he kept pace with him and showed that he was superior to him in speed.
Is there a situation that can be called outlier?
No, there is not. The fact that the character fought and defeated Hon Thor and became a threat to 8th Cosmos Multi-Eternity is definitely not an outlier and hyperbole. Because Knull is an aspect of TOBA. This means that Knull's existence is on a bigger scale than Eternity and Hon Thor, and this also allows Knull to defeat Hon Thor and become a threat to 8th Cosmos (I think I don't need to explain the power and hierarchical difference between TOBA and Multi-Eternity).
Some people may think that Hon Thor here has little cosmic power, but this is not the case. There has been no explanation as to how much of that power was left in Thor after he blew up Galactus and destroyed almost all of Black Winter. So we actually don't know. So no one can say that Hon Thor, who fought Knull, had little cosmic power based on conjecture. It was also stated that the cosmic power in question was too much to be measured. Therefore, it is quite natural for Hon Thor to use this power and show that he has it against his enemies after Black Winter. Because this power is infinite and despite all these situations, Thor couldn't defeat Knull.
So, does Knull being H1-A upgrade the tier of other characters?
The answer is no. Let's look at God of light, known as Uni-Venom. Even though he was on a lower scale than Knull, he defeated and killed him. In fact, when we look at it, he did it thanks to 3 extraordinary situations.
1. Knull was weakened before God of Light faced him.
2. Knull did not have his original weapon, the All Black Necrosword, and he had the Exolon Sword ( which is not as strong as the Necrosword)
3. His opponent, God of Light, combined Hon Thor's Mjolnir, which has the cosmic power of Thor, and Silver Surfer's Surfboard to create an extraordinary weapon, with which he fought against Knull and, naturally, received an amp.
In all of these circumstances, Knull's loss is normal and he has already killed God of Light on fair terms.
and as a result knull's tier should be high 1a because his AP is high 1a and his existence is superior to high 1a
Is All Blood Carnage affected by this?
The answer is still no. Death of the Venom Verse is a non-canon comic with multiple contradictions on multiple issues within itself, scaling with the original Knull is extremely absurd.
Contex:The Ultimates 2 Issue #100, Defenders Beyond Issue #5, Immortal Hulk: Time of the Monsters Issue Full + Immortal Hulk (2018) Issue #25 Immortal Hulk: Absolute Carnage Issue Full + King in Black Issue #3 Venom 2021 Issue #18 + https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/who-is-knull King in Black Issue #5, Venom 2099 Issue full https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/know-all-the-major-players-in-king-in-black, Syimbiote Spider-Man Issue #2, Silver Surfer black Issue #4 web of venom: wraıth full
Agree:Elizio33 darkdragonmedeus antvasima They accepted everything except AE
Neutral:
Disagree:
Note:due to my work life, I may not be able to look at the CRT sometimes.
Abstract Existence Type 2
As far as we know, there are two concepts in the Marvel Universe: love and hate (two opposite concepts). One of them (love) is TOAA's and the other (hate) is TOBA's weapon. This means that TOBA lacks the concept of love and TOAA lacks the concept of hate because these are two opposite concepts. TOBA always wants to destroy everything, to crush everything, to be alone, whereas TOAA doesn't want to be alone and he always creates things. He builds like an engineer. As a result, one side naturally lacks the concept of hate and has the concept of love as a weapon; the other side lacks the concept of love and likewise has the concept of hate as a weapon.
The simplest example of this is the Immortal Hulk: Time of the Monsters series
TOBA grants powers to Taamuz (to take revenge), who participates in the concept of hate, and TOBA grants him gamma power and enables him to take revenge.
Taamuz serves this concept by taking his revenge, and the fact that TOBA hates everything/everyone and owns this concept of hate shows that he embodies this concept.
Knull is an aspect of TOBA and this means that he embodies the concept of hate just like TOBA. Knull also extinguished all the stars he passed over before it came to earth, and on all the planets he passed over, he massacred and took peoples life. Billions of souls are gone. Knull, like TOBA, not only hated light, he hated everything.
As a result Knull should get Abstract exitence type 2 because he embodies this concept just like TOBA.
Type 2 Concept of Hate
Concept of hate should be type 2. The reason is that even killing everyone who belongs to this concept does not destroy it. Undoubtedly, other beings have unwittingly joined in this concept because of some incidents they have experienced and so on (the simplest example was Taamuz)). To put an end to this concept, it is enough to destroy the concept itself
NEP Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 2
Knull is the embodiment of Abyss. And Abyss is a void with NEP Nature type 1
Knull has NEP Nature type 1 because Knull = Abyss. Also, Knull has NEP Aspect type 2 because he is an aspect of TOBA, so he naturally lacks TOAA's concept of love
Another Aspect type 2 basis is that Knull is the opposite of the concept of light, which means that he lacks it.
Immortality Type 8
Since Knull is the embodiment of Abyss, no matter how much he dies, he can come back thanks to Abyss (in order to destroy him completely, it is necessary to destroy Abyss) also
Knull himself states this as well. Before he dies, he tells Eddie that he will not set him free, implying that he will come back. He also says that the Abyss is an infinite void (at that moment Eddie was taking him to kill him and Knull was aware that he was going to die, he had fought and defeated by him beforehand), he essentially states that he will come back, and stated that Knull returns in the future and never fully died
Attack Potency: High Outerverse Level
He fought with Herald of None Thor and was able to overpower and defeat him. He also severely injured him and could have killed him if he wanted to, but he didn't and turned to Dylan.
He is referred to as the threat to the 8th Cosmos Multi-Eternity and this is stated in more than ones
durability:low outerverse level
Tanked some attacks from God of light
Immeasurable Speed
In his battle with Hon-Thor, he kept pace with him and showed that he was superior to him in speed.
Is there a situation that can be called outlier?
No, there is not. The fact that the character fought and defeated Hon Thor and became a threat to 8th Cosmos Multi-Eternity is definitely not an outlier and hyperbole. Because Knull is an aspect of TOBA. This means that Knull's existence is on a bigger scale than Eternity and Hon Thor, and this also allows Knull to defeat Hon Thor and become a threat to 8th Cosmos (I think I don't need to explain the power and hierarchical difference between TOBA and Multi-Eternity).
Some people may think that Hon Thor here has little cosmic power, but this is not the case. There has been no explanation as to how much of that power was left in Thor after he blew up Galactus and destroyed almost all of Black Winter. So we actually don't know. So no one can say that Hon Thor, who fought Knull, had little cosmic power based on conjecture. It was also stated that the cosmic power in question was too much to be measured. Therefore, it is quite natural for Hon Thor to use this power and show that he has it against his enemies after Black Winter. Because this power is infinite and despite all these situations, Thor couldn't defeat Knull.
So, does Knull being H1-A upgrade the tier of other characters?
The answer is no. Let's look at God of light, known as Uni-Venom. Even though he was on a lower scale than Knull, he defeated and killed him. In fact, when we look at it, he did it thanks to 3 extraordinary situations.
1. Knull was weakened before God of Light faced him.
2. Knull did not have his original weapon, the All Black Necrosword, and he had the Exolon Sword ( which is not as strong as the Necrosword)
3. His opponent, God of Light, combined Hon Thor's Mjolnir, which has the cosmic power of Thor, and Silver Surfer's Surfboard to create an extraordinary weapon, with which he fought against Knull and, naturally, received an amp.
In all of these circumstances, Knull's loss is normal and he has already killed God of Light on fair terms.
and as a result knull's tier should be high 1a because his AP is high 1a and his existence is superior to high 1a
Is All Blood Carnage affected by this?
The answer is still no. Death of the Venom Verse is a non-canon comic with multiple contradictions on multiple issues within itself, scaling with the original Knull is extremely absurd.
Contex:The Ultimates 2 Issue #100, Defenders Beyond Issue #5, Immortal Hulk: Time of the Monsters Issue Full + Immortal Hulk (2018) Issue #25 Immortal Hulk: Absolute Carnage Issue Full + King in Black Issue #3 Venom 2021 Issue #18 + https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/who-is-knull King in Black Issue #5, Venom 2099 Issue full https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/know-all-the-major-players-in-king-in-black, Syimbiote Spider-Man Issue #2, Silver Surfer black Issue #4 web of venom: wraıth full
Agree:Elizio33 darkdragonmedeus antvasima They accepted everything except AE
Neutral:
Disagree:
Note:due to my work life, I may not be able to look at the CRT sometimes.
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