• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Agnaa
Reaction score
13,659

Profile posts Latest activity Postings About

  • Currently in a nadir of interest. Not reading my profile or notifications. If there's anything important, DM me. ==================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================== Currently in a nadir of interest. Not reading my profile or notifications. If there's anything important, DM me.
    Sorry to bother as soon you become a calc member, but when you have time could you take a quick look to this calculation? Is pretty simple, just calculate the mass of a sphere of water with a stated diameter.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I love an easy calc.
    Expectro2000xxx
    Expectro2000xxx
    And I love you helpful members, thanks for the evaluation.
    • Like
    Reactions: Agnaa
    Howdy mate just wanted to ask if you know what the rolling coefficient between stone and dirt is Smoke needs it for a Slippin Jimmy calculation
    CuteAnimeNekoGirl99
    CuteAnimeNekoGirl99
    Nvm agnaa Saul PUSHED the piece of stone a full PUSH no rolling because Saul (Slippin Jimmy) is a chad B)
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I do not know.
    CuteAnimeNekoGirl99
    CuteAnimeNekoGirl99
    Alr .w. Doesn’t matter for what I’ve already mentioned uvu
    Hi there, I have noticed this thread about Creepypasta and Slenderman-derived work.

    As someone who once followed the Slender Mythos, can I get permission to comment on it?
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    As someone who once followed the Slender Mythos, I would say that the Marble Hornets, TribeTwelve/EverymanHYBRID, or most Slender-inspired ARGs in general aren't just fanfic.

    The original story of Slenderman was just a story written by Victor Surge and the SomethingAwful Paranormal Thread between 2009 and 2010. The Marble Hornets were the first series to conceptualize the idea of the Slenderman we all know today. They basically create their own version of Slenderman and expand it in their own way.

    Most of the following ARGs were actually inspired by Marble Hornets instead of the original story, and as their story goes on, they turn Slenderman into a rather different being to fit the plot.

    In TribeTwelve, it was a higher being that controlled the world through mortal puppets. In EverymanHYBRID, Slenderman only appeared for the first arcs, and his role became less relevant and the story eventually switched to something else. In DarkHarvest00, it was an eldritch creature worshiped by a cult.

    One thing to be noted is that most of these works above don't refer to the entity as Slenderman (except for EverymanHYBRID): The Administrator, The Operator, Gorr 'Rylaehotep, etc. It's a way that the producer is trying to make their character as distinct from Slenderman as possible.

    Now, the problem here is how the Slender Mythos page is indexed on the wiki. It's basically a composite page that covers every appearance of Slenderman ever, which is a fault because most of them aren't canon to each other or anything. I do remember that EverymanHYBRID and TribeTwelve once had a crossover, but none to other stories/games on the main page.

    I cannot say much about The Creepypasta Collection, but I don't think grouping it with any of the works above is fair because they are each their own story and should have their own separate page.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    That seems good to post!
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Thank you.
    I wanted to ask something, if an dimension stated to be a alternate dimension and is seprated by dimensional barrier and also mentioned as extradimensional and in that said franchise extradimension has been used for parallel universes or something outside of spacetime continuum as well. Does that said dimension qualify for being seprate spacetime continuum?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I don't evaluate specific verses' cosmological statements.
    Apologies for being a bit over argumentative here, but I recall we never have explicit proof nor implied proof of pocket dimensions to begin with irl.
    The only thing worth noting is that pocket dimensions did came from the fact we have theories and fiction series that show pocket dimensions.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I didn't deeply read your post since it seems to go heavily into the mathematics in a way that I cannot understand. I only understand the basics of cardinals. But I do still have a response, but since I haven't properly read your thread, I'd only feel comfortable posting it here.

    Philosophically, there's many places we could place the borders for High 1-A and 0. And really, wherever we place them, that decision seems pretty arbitrary. There's a certain function we want the tiers 1-A, High 1-A, and 0 to have in how they operate; but the exact mathematical constructs they end up corresponding to depends on what we equalise layers of transcendence within them to, which seems wholly arbitrary. The only verses for which these arbitrary distinctions make a difference are verses which explicitly invoke cardinals in their cosmology. We could have 1-A+ start at R^R^R^omega instead of an omega-length chain of R^R^R...^R. And we could have High 1-A start at R^R^R^R, and 0 start at R^R^R^R^R, and the only verses that would be changed by our choice are these mathematically-invoking verses.

    Since it barely matters, and I can't understand it, I don't care what happens. Some people have suggested tier 0 being above ZFC, or having High 1-A involve adding new axioms, with 0 involving entirely new logical systems. I really don't care which suggestion ends up going through.
    Cat275
    Cat275
    Alright sir, sorry for bothering you and thanks for taking your time.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    It's no bother at all buddy. Good luck on getting that thread resolved.
    • Like
    Reactions: Cat275
    Hi bro, I just want to ask about the speed of a character,
    Assume A is the FTE of some people's statement, then fight with B.
    B managed to avoid a hit from A which is described as very close, after being calcified using the Projectile dodging feats formula, B got Supersonic speed. After that the fight continued but was still balanced, even though A was initially only FTE still able to balance B who was Supersonic.
    Do you think it makes sense for B Supersonic? Or will A evolve into Supersonic too?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Sounds like it shouldn't really be usable for either.
    Hay bro just wanna ask, is transduality type 2 transcend all duality system???
    Hey,

    I don't know if you remember me, I was active on here about 3 years ago before being banned. Now that I'm unbanned I just wanted to say hi to some of the people I used to talk to. And you were one of them!
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    That sounds about right.
    MICKEYMOUSEUSERNAME
    MICKEYMOUSEUSERNAME
    Speaking of which, how does this new site work? Is there still something resembling a chat?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    It's a fairly standard forum. Different formatting than the wiki's old forum, but there's still likes and topics. A thread can have more topics, but topics aren't innately linked to pages on the wiki. There's some more moderation tools. There's no post limit for threads. There's signatures and shit like that. Those are the most major changes for the new forum.

    There's nothing resembling a chat. There's a wide variety of Discord servers people have made for real-time chats.
    Hello agnaa, i wanna ask something.

    Why do we use separable hausdorf as the limitation between Low 1-A and 1-A??
    RALFdoang
    RALFdoang
    Alright, thank.

    Can i get an external link explaining the largest common space-time size or a crt that disscusing that
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    It's the very thread where Low 1-A was added, where the upper parts of the Tiering System were overhauled, do you want me to try digging that up?
    RALFdoang
    RALFdoang
    Ah, No, i don't want to burding you.

    Anyway, thanks for the time.
    • Like
    Reactions: Agnaa
    Hey Agnaa, which verses/sections of verses are you knowledgeable in so I can hopefully make fair matches for you to debate?
    Hello Agnaa, excuse me for disturbing, but what does "fundamentally transcending something" mean if it were to be translated into a number? Thanks.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    She's in a few servers, and I could give you her Discord tag so you can talk to her directly.

    What would you like to talk to her about? I'd like to ask her permission before sending someone her info.
    OnsokunoSonic
    OnsokunoSonic
    Well I just want some elaboration on H1-B without R>F difference.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Alright, I'll send you a PM if she's interested in talking.
    is it okay for me to mention our convo on discord, and how you'd be fine with a "possibly / likely" rating if wider context could be gleaned from the author to show that they are knowledgeable on set theory (Such as a thesis or study)? I want to make sure i fully understand your words as to not twist them.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    A few more specifics:
    • The "wider context" would be the author demonstrating knowledge on particular cardinals, and would cause scaling to those cardinals, if the series has a statement invoking "all cardinals". Not just general knowledge about set theory.
    • I'd still prefer no possibly/likely, but I realise that my case isn't super strong, so I'd understand and wouldn't be too upset if a possibly/likely was given.
    Jibz
    Jibz
    aight aight, thanks for clarifying ill make a comment on this all later, tired asf atm
    YO Agnaa
    Long time no see you!
    No worries, this is a purely friendly question about Tiering systems (specifically Alephs, Low-1A to 1A+) since you're an expert on these things and I wanted to clear my confusion.
    Wiki treats aleph numbers a lot smaller than they really are? Or did I simply miscalculate?
    For the Context and Darkmash seem like agree with me about this
    Rabbit2002
    Rabbit2002
    I'm not talking about High-1A (it's weird regardless)
    I mean the alephs could have been treated like a lot smaller than they really were.
    Like we treat alephs as "steps/layers' above 1A Baseline
    But it's actually so much bigger than all of those, even just aleph-4
    Example: if we use "correct" definition for alephs and treat it being steps, most 1A+ or above baseline (as SMT cases) will lose their tier, get back to 1A baseline, just slightly higher than "lowest" baseline but all placed in one step (aleph-3 number of objects as points, planets,universes,..., aleph-2 dimensions), even old 3812
    Summary: countable or even uncountably infinite layers of difference between L1A (or 1A or higher if u win) and baseline 11-C doesn't make you higher aleph/tier at all, not even close it
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    So what I think you're saying is that alephs aren't just steps or layers; they completely dwarf what was prior in an increasingly large way.

    My response to this is that most steps/layers of hierarchies in fiction can't really concretely be quantified, so we just equalise them to whatever. Even lower stuff, like the earlier parts of tier 1, can run into this issue, where some verses have the layers mean "10^90x physically bigger", some have it mean "infinitely bigger", some have it mean "sees as fiction", and some have "uncountably infinitely bigger", yet we equalise them all to "uncountably infinitely bigger".

    Or in short, that problem doesn't start with alephs.

    But more than that, if things did operate such that we treated alephs that realistically, any series that invokes even aleph-seven would dwarf every single verse that doesn't invoke such mathematics, which was an outcome people didn't want when they created the system this way.

    The justification that people have for treating 1-A stuff that way, is that each step in 1-A should dwarf the last step in 1-A, the same way that baseline 1-A dwarfs lower tiers, which would definitionally involve a 2^(last layer) sort of relationship, which does correspond to the alephs.

    Those are three reasons that the system is the way it currently is. I hope one of those satisfies you.
    Hello again Agnaa.
    I have a question about the SCP Multiverse having uncountably infinite Dimensions. These quotes specifically;

    Unfortunately, the world is not dynamic. Everything's already over, I've already read it. All of this? It's just going through the motions. This is just a tiny subset of the world at large. I'd call it the 'real' word, but it's just as real as we are in here. The larger space that we're in… much larger, in fact, uncountably infinite expanses in uncountably infinite dimensions… we fill that space. And yet, here, we're discretised. Collapsed into words and nothing more, even if we're something so much greater.”

    And this one “See, sometimes the infinite can be reduced to something simpler. Look here: ÔäÁ0 and ÔäÁ1 and ÔäÁ2 and so on. Simple, yes, but they can each contain the world. You can glimpse it, if you look hard enough. Just breathe in, breathe out. Think about infinity. Not just countable, but uncountable, and the dimension of it goes up into uncountability too. If you think you've really understood it, you aren't thinking hard enough. Sure, zoom past the pitstops. 5, 23, 3333. They're all beautiful, but so horrendously finite. Fly past it all and keep going and going. Minds have died wishing for a fraction of what I can see. So breathe slowly, and think about it.”

    I was trying to find where they originate at. I know they’re found in Acidverse but I don’t know which part. I was wondering if you knew. I already ask Sir Oven but he did not know.
    Hey, are you still interested in scp thing? If you still so, i think this new SCP probably would change the entire L1A to 1A scp cosmology in this wiki. It mentioning further down about "What narrative is, and how it work".

    Also it have "scarlet-king" tag, maybe TSK will have a big jump to 1A.

    If you don't have interest to scp anymore, its okay im gonna ask anyone else.
    RALFdoang
    RALFdoang
    I agree with the new TSK key and no one scale to it.
    RALFdoang
    RALFdoang
    After i read 6747, this scarlet-king has no relation to the old god TSK.

    It's about Dr.King who partially merged with scp-2747 and become scp-6747-C, a strong antinarrative entity stronger than the 2747 itself. In the end of proposal, he become more and more corupt and be the new Scarlet-King then targeting the reader (swann entity).

    Do you think it's still counted as new key for TSK? Or should we make a new profile for this Scarlet-King?.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I was leaning towards a new profile, but Saikou read it and seems to think a key's better. I don't really know.
    An SCP-related question: Why is the battle between the Gods that overturned the Noosphere in the story involving SK considered the final battle between TBD and SK to destroy TOK? Is there a statement/affirmation from author/Another tale/story or simply a headcanon that we put together that explains the problem?
    Rabbit2002
    Rabbit2002
    I think this (Lapitus's answer) is an avoidance of responsibility, or is it really? This question is also synonymous with the intent to modify the profile (not sure if it's a downgrade or an upgrade), without a scan for why it's a battle between TBD and SK then profile modification is inevitable , this Wiki allows to contain information even without the source corroborating it in the first place ?
    Sir_Ovens
    Sir_Ovens
    What?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    This wiki was a lot looser with evidence requirements in the past. People would only need to provide evidence when changing profiles or when challenged on if something actually happened. Now we're stricter and want that evidence to be there from the start. A lot of the SCP profiles were (maybe some still are?) bad because of people misinterpreting things and not being challenged on them.

    I can't help with the rest of your question.
    I have a question. Does a infinitely sized universe with infinite timelines, realities, and realms qualify for Low 2-C?
    ThePirateKing777
    ThePirateKing777
    I think i see what your saying. So different times of the universe could quality as multiversal in a sense. Even if these said timelines or spacetime continuums are contained within "a greater universe" or something like that?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Well, sometimes fiction does have misleading names like that, where "timelines" are contained within "a greater universe" which would effectively be a multiverse.
    ThePirateKing777
    ThePirateKing777
    Yeah I agree. Thanks for your time.
  • Loading…
  • Loading…
  • Loading…
Back
Top