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Marvel Comics - 5-B Scaling Upgrade
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Do you mean "High 6-A stuff"?
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Oh, I was looking at this scaling list. But I guess that answered my question and the 6-B isn't part of the discussion anymore.
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Well, it seems like we have more backing for 5-B than High 6-A.
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Why would we leave his current tiering alone when we’ve already established that it’s inaccurate?
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Because the Grey Hulk was never portrayed at anywhere near that scale of power on any other occasion regardless of rage, and every single High 6-C character would have to scale to him, given how weak he was usually portrayed in comparison to them.
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Well, I would personally prefer if we only move the strongest High 6-C characters to 5-B, but I would appreciate well-considered plans of approach from @Confluctor and other knowledgeable members here.
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There is also Thor's shattering planet casually statement thing.
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The issue is, it's virtually impossible to actually break them apart.
Honestly two tiers for each one might be the way forward but that's too complicated too, especially since most don't have a power mechanism.
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Hyperion 616 also has this statement.
Btw, Ant, can you ask Agnna what his issues with high 6c marvel calcs are? And if he has alternative values in mind for it? If so, I honestly wouldn't mind continuing to scale it to them - whatever the value might be. Taking wide areas and tons and tons of mountain busting statements, idk maybe tier 6 is where they belong ¯\(ツ)/¯
Also, carol has legitimate 3c scaling - wayyyy too many of them and should probably get upgraded sometime , so that's another issue. Even if she has two tiers in each key, could work, but still, causes issues nonetheless
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Our High 6-C scaling comes from Carol Danvers, a character that already stomped Grey Hulk, leaving him at High 6-C is not an option.
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It should be mentioned, Carol has gotten far far far stronger than what she was capable of doing during the 70s and 80s.
I wish we had era keys for all characters. Would make things so much easier
I wish we had era keys for all characters. Would make things so much easier
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@Agnaa
We would greatly appreciate if you explain yourself here please.
Well, her own Binary feats are far far lower than 3-C. In fact he most impressive feat that I know of in which she cleansed a star of an infection was done very gradually and did not cover the entire star, so it was probably around High 5-A in scale.
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What do you have in mind exactly?
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The star feat is not ap applicable tho
Also, tons of characters have terrible own feats but amazing scaling. It's what it is.
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I was just commenting on the grey hulk and carol situation.
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But if we scale everybody to everybody based on who they have fought, we literally end up with J. Jonah Jameson scaling to the Living Tribunal, so feats tend to be much preferable, unless we can form a consistent pattern.
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He only took like three hits (Hulk Vol. 2 #8, January 2009) before being defeated.
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Well, you mentioned era keys, which I personally wouldn't mind if they are handled well.
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I do not think that we saw him being unconscious, just punched away.
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The next time we see him, he’s transformed into Green Hulk.
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That is virtually impossible now tbh. Too many characters and scaling and not enough time/resources.
Well, that's obviously illogical. But this scaling right now is more logical and backed by various things rather than just "he punched him once"
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Yes, which means that he was not significantly damaged.
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??? or it means that he’s significantly weaker than Carol…
I don’t see how this means we should leave Grey Hulk’s tier as is. If anything, scaling him to High 6-C because he took literally three hits and was clearly overpowered by Ms. Marvel is much less solid than scaling him to 5-B, considering that there’s at least two 5-B feats/statements, plus a supporting Low 5-B feat from Thing.
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Well, High 6-C is a lot closer to the level he was usually portrayed at, whereas 5-B was far beyond it, so it does make sense to make that his peak.
But maybe "Varies, at least 5-B at his peak" would work better?
But maybe "Varies, at least 5-B at his peak" would work better?
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It clearly isn’t his peak though, he performed that feat pretty casually, which you agreed with earlier in the thread. And again, Gilgamesh has a 5-B statement, Thing has a Low 5-B statement, Hyperion has a 5-B statement and Confluctor mentioned that Thor has a casual 5-B statement.
That’s four 5-Bs and one Low 5-B from characters that roughly scale to Grey Hulk as opposed to one High 6-C feat from a character that’s clearly stronger than him and was going to be upgraded to High 6-A anyway.
That’s four 5-Bs and one Low 5-B from characters that roughly scale to Grey Hulk as opposed to one High 6-C feat from a character that’s clearly stronger than him and was going to be upgraded to High 6-A anyway.
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So that makes five 5-B feats/statements.
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Yeah. A bit more consistent than the high 6c so far ig.
Also this; https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0527ab4abd90059214fdf6c9f3f98740-lq
Also this; https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0527ab4abd90059214fdf6c9f3f98740-lq
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thats not 5B. It got calced at NF at megatons
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NF calcs are wonky afaik, should probably get someone to recalc it.
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What is NF?
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