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Oh shiiiiit.
I saw that there was some new information for the secret bosses; dialogue that isn't seen in the main game from them.
If you could take pictures of all the new information (and new art too if it seems like there's any feats implied there), that would be a HUGE help.
Fuuuuuuck, I just happened across this video which shows that there's a limited edition Loop Hero Encyclopedia, which includes new lore, is fairly expensive on the second-hand market, and doesn't seem to have any online versions....
Rough.
I'd suggest
I'm not too worried about that. Beyond us choosing obscure words, we've sometimes simply invented words for our ratings. So from that lens, I see it as better than terms like "outerversal'.
Especially since I don't have any good leads on better terms.
I've updated the Calculations page accordingly.
But on that page there are other keisan links which may need to be replaced.
And pondering it more, I'm not able to evaluate whether Psychomaster's link is reliable.
Agree with OP Entirely: 2 (AbaddonTheDisappointment, CloverDragon03)
Suggested A Different FRA Rule: 2 (Antvasima, Colonel_Krukov)
Disagree with OP Mostly, But Thinks A Different FRA Rule Could Be Made: 1 (Mr. Bambu)
Disagree with OP Entirely: 3 (DontTalkDT, DarkDragonMedeus, Agnaa)
Overall...
@UchihaSlayer96 Seemed sympathetic to the OP, I don't feel great about overruling him 3-to-1.
I'd like to give him a few days to see if he feels like DT and I properly addressed it, or otherwise to propose concrete changes.
I would really prefer getting other people's input on that. This is a big verse, and I'm a newcomer to it, so I don't feel comfortable making a big call about Superman's tiering by myself.
But if no-one else comes along, I do have opinions on that which I could run with.
I don't think so. If a series is clearly referring to just a single timeline when they say "Timeline-eater is too big for that space-time" then we shouldn't automatically chuck it at Low 1-A just because its superiority is size-like. I don't think that's something that was endorsed in the...
Brief summary of highlights:
Agnaa: We generally let UES's operate in speed, even though I'd like this to be changed. And we'd treat a UES gaining 3x more energy equating to 3x more power, changing this would require dismantling UES's entirely imo.
Agnaa: We don't infer multipliers from feats...
I'm not sure. Ultima correctly identified the issue I pointed out, but hasn't responded to it publicly (or privately, to me), instead taking it to DMs with DT.
As I said before, I think it could be used as-is, even if it is a bit clunky.
If you think it's important to slim it down, I can put some energy into doing that.
The metric I always go by, is that it depends on the explanation for the resistance. And if it's unexplained, then the character only resists the same type of ability causing the same type of effect.
For explanations that hit the type of ability, I'd go with "This character can selectively...
It does. But given the context, I think eternally makes more sense, especially given how it's immediately followed by "expanding". If they wanted to say it was infinitely large, they could just say 果てしない闇の宮殿.
Oh, if it's just creating a universe which then undergoes inflation, then that wouldn't need infinite speed.
No. I actually remember looking at that feat, and it was just growing for eternity. Looked at the raws and everything.
引き裂く kinda can mean "to separate", but only really in the context of interpersonal relationships, like divorce, or these sorts of examples:
While 分離 is a much more general word for separation, which would be the term of choice for separating two currently merged worlds.
Although we can...
It depends on whether it's something that would travel that distance in the first place, or whether it's something that spontaneously appears at a point within range. If it's the latter, it would just be infinite range.
Otherwise it would be infinite speed.
I think that reading is not justified by the information we are provided.
You're not even assuming that the warps involve the acceleration of time, but you're arguing instead for the complete elimination of it. While yeah, there are cases we have like that which are accepted (as...
Improved formulas for cooling calculations should wait until after we decide whether they should be done at all.
But sure, two days for the triple post rebuttal, after which Rather can make a followup thread.
DBH gets it by crossing the infinitely-large afterlife, GoW gets it by Helios' light being able to illuminate the infinitely-large Underworld, Touhou gets it by being able to fly to the end of multiple infinitely-large constructs.
Well, what do you mean by "space time jump"? Because the only...
Why would this possibly end up at infinite? How do you conceive of them "leaping through spacetime" by running, in a way that involve traveling infinite distance in finite time, or a non-zero amount of distance in zero time?
@DarkDragonMedeus @RatherClueless I think, at this point, the wait has gotten ridiculous. Even though this rule is about verse-specific issues, I feel like the wait so far exceeds that, that it should still apply
A new thread should be made, as was agreed with before. If DDM isn't able to...
I asked why you think it's a representation of/amp to infinite/immeasurable speed. You said you're not talking about the level of speed, and then brought up how you'd already said that it wasn't immeasurable. Without ever saying "anyway I think it's infinite for this reason" or "no I don't...
This thread has already been dragged out so much that I don't think there's much point in talking to someone who has no opinions on what speed rating that ability would get.
Fury doesn't always start by crouching, and doesn't always change stances when using that.
So really, the similarity is just that they visibly disappear then reappear somewhere else. This is not enough to consider them the same ability.
I don't think that tiny puff of darkness represents the...
If it helps to clarify things, after all this discussion, I think Fury's ability is probably some sort of space-time collapsing/compressing thing. To add arbitrary numbers, it might shrink the 10 meters they want to run into 2 meters, letting them effectively reach a destination 5x as quickly...
Explain why you think that's the same thing, and you'll hopefully realise that it's not sufficient for scaling. Or reveal a connection that wasn't explicitly mentioned in your post. Either way would be good.
That sounds like a good idea.
No, moving in circles does not require reacting.
Why do...
No. Ovens and I actually disagreed with decent parts of this thread. While Vzearr disagreed with one of the calcs.
@WanderingGecko I've noticed that you've edited agreements into the OP, but not disagreements such as mine, Ovens', and Vzearr's, even though those came before some of the...
He can just as easily be slower than Fury's fastest movement ability, if there's ways to act around it.
What says it's initiated and completed with their muscles? The description says it uses demonic power for those space-time jumps.
It'd have to initiate movement, I'd think. It doesn't warp...