Tier High 6-A The Battle of the Beast Tournament (2023): Monkey D Luffy vs Mob Psycho 100 (Shigeo Kageyama)

[DaMonkeMan]

I'm wondering wtf is the point of a barrier if nothing can touch it anyway.
The whole point is that it protects the user by taking/repelling/absorbing attacks depending on what kind of barrier it is.
Y'all seem to ignore that.

 

[LordGinSama]

Also Luffy wouldn't reflect attacks back at himself whenever turning someone's body or barriers into rubber, if Kaido was anything to go by. Kaidou never reflected attacks back at Luffy despite being turned to rubber.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

I mean, turning the forcefield into rubber doesn't really do anything?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

"If Luffy attacks Mob can use a forcefield."
"Luffy can rubberize the shield and bypass it."
"Uhm actually that won't do anything so it doesn't matter"
Hm.

 

[Planck69]

Do whatever. I really don't care either way.

 

[Godernet]

I don't know why we're so focused on the barrier and forgetting a pretty important detail.

How is Luffy supposed to beat someone that can regen from being ripped to shreds (potentially molecules)?

Especially when Mob has a lot of abilities Luffy doesn't have a counter for.

He can hold Luffy in place with TK and suffocate him with buildings.
He can fry his brain with a mental attack
He can possess his body.

With his over 3x AP advantage and 10x LS advantage on top of ??? Mob being bloodlusted and likely to go for a one-shot.

We really should wait for the OP to maybe change it to 100% Mob.

 

[Planck69]

I will remind everyone that this is a tournament fight. Not a vs match that has to be fair.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

If Mob's LS gets downgraded to Class T Mob loses this decisively and gets stomped by Lucifero tho.

I still think Lucifero should've been disqualified long before that match.

Anyway following/mostly just waiting to see what happens here

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I don't know why we're so focused on the barrier and forgetting a pretty important detail.

How is Luffy supposed to beat someone that can regen from being ripped to shreds (potentially molecules)?

Especially when Mob has a lot of abilities Luffy doesn't have a counter for.

He can hold Luffy in place with TK and suffocate him with buildings.

Luffy can rubberize the buildings or become a giant.

He can fry his brain with a mental attack

This just won't happen plus we've seen people like Sickbeard fight with half of their head missing anyway so..

He can possess his body.

Depends on how that ability works.

With his over 3x AP advantage and 10x LS advantage on top of ??? Mob being bloodlusted and likely to go for a one-shot.

We really should wait for the OP to maybe change it to 100% Mob.

Passive Empowerment + Toon Force + resistance to blunt force FTW

 

[Nierre]

Is this still ???% Mob or is it now 100%?

 

[Godernet]

Luffy can rubberize the buildings or become a giant.

If he’s being Tk’d he literally can’t move at all.

This just won't happen plus we've seen people like Sickbeard fight with half of their head missing anyway so..

Comparing Oldbeard losing a chunk of his face to Mob short circuiting Luffy’s brain is crazy.

Depends on how that ability works.

He jumps inside your body and he possesses you

Passive Empowerment + Toon Force + resistance to blunt force FTW

Again ??? Mob passively gets stronger too. Also there’s no blunt force involved in mob suffocating him or tk’ing his head off.

 

[Popted2]

Is this still ???% Mob or is it now 100%?

still the former tough since Planck said to do whatever

we can change it to 100% to make it more fair now

 

[Planck69]

I will remind everyone that this is a tournament fight. Not a vs match that has to be fair.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

I mean, Luffy already has votes here, so turning it into 100% seems unnecessary

 

[Popted2]

I mean, Luffy already has votes here, so turning it into 100% seems unnecessary

do you want this thread to reach 500 comments?

 

[Tatsumi504]

I'm pretty sure luffy just said "bro, look at this shit" and pulled out a piece of the floor that was rubber to throw his shit back in kaido's face

Why not turn the attack itself into rubber then bounce it back.

Random goons coming to the thread to say Luffy can't affect an energy shield when he grabbed lightning and the smoke he passively generates in G5

Supernatural energy that's only found in certain beings is ≠ lightning. This is like saying a person who can interact with souls can do so with concepts because they have NPI.

If you read the manga instead you'd know this but time and time again you prove that y

Which I've admitted to even in the Orochi vs Luffy match. I can be reasoned with. Bring me proper evidence that such can happen. I even conceded on Luffy countering Orochi's wincons previously. Just put your money where your mouth is.

Why does interacting with lightning, giving it rubber properties= he can do so with psychic energy?

Let me try preface this another way, why doesn't he turn armament haki into rubber to by pass it?

Luffy can rubberize the buildings or become a giant.

Which requires him touching them. How is he gonna touch them/ grow when held in place with Tk that completely locks him in place?

Depends on how that ability works.

He uses astral projection to go outside his body then possesses somebody by entering them

Passive Empowerment + Toon Force + resistance to blunt force FTW

Passive Energy Absorption that increases his stats+ Tk cutting attacks

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Following

 

[Popted2]

"If Luffy attacks Mob can use a forcefield."
"Luffy can rubberize the shield and bypass it."
"Uhm actually that won't do anything so it doesn't matter"
Hm.

Also Luffy wouldn't reflect attacks back at himself whenever turning someone's body or barriers into rubber, if Kaido was anything to go by. Kaidou never reflected attacks back at Luffy despite being turned to rubber.

so in order to have a decisive factor we have to resolve the problem of Mob TK, explaining how he could counter it from being took, and being hold from air or in place etc

that is the most important thing to explain right now

 

[Recon1511]

I mean if this is all about who gets the first move (Luffy speed amps or Mob restrains) then I'm putting my money on the one whose whole fighting style and power is based on attacking with his mind

Like literally this is just Luffy vs Tatsumaki all over again lol

 

[DemonicDude]

What are the current vote counts ?

 

[Recon1511]

Idk some people put Luffy FTA but the one most likely to get the first move and basically win here is Mob imo

 

[DemonicDude]

2 Votes for Luffy (Lynieryz, Popted2)

 

[Popted2]

TBH i already explained that if we continue like this it would be better to just change it to 100 % Mob,

because the AP gap would not be too large, the match would be more fair


and most importantly prevent this match to be 5 pages long

for info the previous Luffy match was 417 messages to let you guys understand the gravity of the situation ( no pun intended)

 

[Recon1511]

Its a tournament match not a versus match it doesn't have to be fair

 

[Godernet]

I still haven't really seen anyone post a Luffy wincon.

They both have similar range and stamina, but Mob has high regen and his superior Ap/Lifting strength. They both grow stronger as the fight goes on(although G5 will eventually run out)

Mob being blood lusted really doesn't do Luffy any favors here.

 

[Godernet]

TBH i already explained that if we continue like this it would be better to just change it to 100 % Mob,

because the AP gap would not be too large, the match would be more fair


and most importantly prevent this match to be 5 pages long

for info the previous Luffy match was 417 messages to let you guys understand the gravity of the situation ( no pun intended)

wouldn't the thread go on even longer if the fight was more contentious?

besides like Planck said:

I will remind everyone that this is a tournament fight. Not a vs match that has to be fair.

 

[Nierre]

Ok then since it's ???% I vote Mob FRA

 

[Epsilon_R]

I mean, even if luffy has crazy future sight omg, he still needs to think to do anything afterwards.

It's basically perceive the future then think vs... well... think

And can't Mob absorb life force or something?

 

[Planck69]

I mean, even if luffy has crazy future sight omg, he still needs to think to do anything afterwards.

It's basically perceive the future then think vs... well... think

And can't Mob absorb life force or something?

Nah, Mogami can do that. He could replicate it but it's not too likely to be an opening move anyway.

 

[Edutyn]

And can't Mob absorb life force or something?

No that's Mogami. But ???% can passively absorb energy from his surroundings and from others

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Conqueror's Haki I think should be able to help luffy escape TK and getting many openings...

Which is about willpower, I doubt it would knock out mob at all but should still effect him somewhat

 

[Nierre]

Oh right Conq Haki probably can help right?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Is ???% mindless?... Like similar to a wild animal because I think it's then even more effective

I don't remember much when he turned ???% to the blond guy but I do remember he had no control or something

 

[Edutyn]

Is ???% mindless... Like similar to a wild animal because I think it's then even more effective

Not really, ???% is a separate conscious state from Shigeo

 

[Nierre]

Err he's not technically mindless - he's basically Shigeo's alter ego. He should be just as smart as Shigeo

 

[Planck69]

Is ???% mindless?... Like similar to a wild animal because I think it's then even more effective

I don't remember much when he turned ???% to the blond guy but I do remember he had no control or something

No. This is a weird misconception. He's just an alternate Mob that views himself as the true personality.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Not really, ???% is a separate conscious state from Shigeo

But aren't you guys saying he's bloodlusted? Or does the separate conscious just act like that

 

[Edutyn]

Also, Luffy only has Reisitance to Stamina Absorption, so ???% could absorb his energy.

 

[Edutyn]

But aren't you guys saying he's bloodlusted? Or does the separate conscious just act like that

It's Shigeo's original consciousness, in part, that he doesn't care about the methods he uses to achieve his goal.

 

[Epiccheev]

Mob's mental resistance is 7 layers of mindhax
Ghost dimple mindhax<regular esper resistance<early god dimple mind manip<Teruki's resistance<full god dimple mind resist<base mob resistance<mogami's mindhax<100% mind resistance<???% mind resistance.
The types of mindhax he has resisted are empathic manip, hypnosis, memory manip, mental illusions and sleep manip, can dispel empathic manip, memory manip, physical illusions and astral planes from others with a thought and in case a mental attack gets through he can amplify it with his mind and broadcast it back to the user leading to a double K.O.