Tier High 6-A The Battle of the Beast Tournament (2023): Monkey D Luffy vs Mob Psycho 100 (Shigeo Kageyama)

[Popted2]

well for now Luffy FRA

 

[Epiccheev]

Empowerment likely won't come into play here since it will be a quick fight.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Empowerment likely won't come into play here since it will be a quick fight.

It depends on what Mob starts with.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I mean, his empowerment has to make him ×6 times stronger to do any meaningful damage to Mob, and this Mob can already one-shot characters his value
Not to mention that if Mob starts with his thought-based TK restraint, Luffy can't really do anything

 

[Edutyn]

Throw with TK. It does not work. Throw for several meters/kilometers at a very fast speed. It does not work. Turn him into a ping pong ball while compressing him with gravity manipulation and draining his energy

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I mean, his empowerment has to make him ×6 times stronger to do any meaningful damage to Mob, and this Mob can already one-shot characters his value
Not to mention that if Mob starts with his thought-based TK restraint, Luffy can't really do anything

I mean, he went from getting clapped by Kaidou ( though Kaidou was completely serious with him and Luffy had JUST awakened his fruit after basically dying beforehand ) to using Transmutation, Size Manip, and making a huge island sized fist that overpowered Kaidou's most powerful attack.
And this is PASSIVE empowerment, mind you.
Mob has to TK his mouth shut to keep him from laughing and thus stop him from passively growing in strength.
But this implies Mob knows to do that or wants to.

 

[Godernet]

I still don't really see how Luffy gets out of Mob hitting Luffy with a chibaku tensei. if Mob's using TK to hold him in place there's nothing he can really do.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I still don't really see how Luffy gets out of Mob hitting Luffy with a chibaku tensei. if Mob's using TK to hold him in place there's nothing he can really do.

Turn into a giant.

 

[Recon1511]

I aint voting until Planck responds and you all should do the same

 

[Godernet]

Turn into a giant.

he won't be able to move at all. there's a 10x gap in lifting strength

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I aint voting until Planck responds and you all should do the same

But what if we don't?

 

[Edutyn]

Actually, ???% could rip his head off the moment he realizes that none of his attacks work.

 

[Edutyn]

But what if we don't?

Then... there will be BLOOD

 

[Godernet]

Gomu Gomu no-

Mob:

 

[DaMonkeMan]

he won't be able to move at all. there's a 10x gap in lifting strength

He doesn't have to move wtf?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

He doesn't have to move wtf?

Yeah, but turning big won't change the LS difference

 

[Godernet]

He doesn't have to move wtf?

how would he increase in size if he has a telekinesis barrier stronger than he is completely surrounding his body? Growing in size still requires movement.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

how would he increase in size if he has a telekinesis barrier stronger than he is completely surrounding his body? Growing in size is still moving.

iirc it's just instantaneous.
Also does Mob even start with TK?

 

[Edutyn]

iirc it's just instantaneous.
Also does Mob even start with TK?

Yes

 

[Godernet]

iirc it's just instantaneous.
Also does Mob even start with TK?

we never actually saw how Luffy did Gigant. But if he is already being grabbed by Mob's TK he won't be able to grow.

And yeah Angry Mob and ??? do use TK a lot.

 

[Lynieryz]

Mob FRA

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Well again, Luffy still has the passive Empowerment plus Toon Force, and if Mob only TKs him to throw a building on him or something Luffy survives that easily due to obvious reasons.

 

[Godernet]

Well again, Luffy still has the passive Empowerment plus Toon Force, and if Mob only TKs him to throw a building on him or something Luffy survives that easily due to obvious reasons.

Angry Mob has regularly attempted to use TK to strangle or suffocate them so I doubt he'll get that chance. Also ??? Mob passively gets stronger.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Angry Mob has regularly attempted to use TK to strangle or suffocate them so I doubt he'll get that chance. Also ??? Mob passively gets stronger.

Okay.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Gonna wait for the big dogs like Lord Gin and KT to handle Luffy's wincons because I don't feel like it plus they're usually great at arguing ( though KT's got his screws loose ).

 

[Epiccheev]

It depends on what Mob starts with.

Base Mob:
100% starts with TK restraint followed by ragdolling when vs humans, cutting or restraint and twisting while using exorcism vs spirits (Mogami states TK is his bread and butter/speciality, plus it's what he uses vs every esper. He uses cutting against odor sniffer, Mogami's ghost form and Dimple.) [Mob's restraint also works by binding every single joint in the body, including fingers, as said by Mogami when he was possessing a girl and got restrained by base mob.)

100% Mob:
Depends entirely on the form of emotion.
100% courage seems to mix range and melee,
100% resignation restrains people then pops eyeballs/inner ears and while breaking every joint in the body.
100% anger uses cutting TK vs spirits, same as animosity vs humans.
100% sadness rebuilds stuff and traps people with rubble
100% shame: creates large smoke clouds and hides away.
100% compassion: creates an absorbing barrier.
100% obsession same as courage.
100% animosity TK crush/ragdolling/smashing people on things with hands while flying
100% ecstasy: energy blast spamming

???% Mob:
If he wants to kill a single opponent who is at range he will likely be the same thing as 100% resignation who is the closest thing to a bloodlusted Mob.
If he wants to kill many opponents that are swarming him then he does an AOE explosion around his body.
If he wants to kill a single opponent at melee range then the Toichiro fight is likely the closest thing, where he either blows the opponent away with AOE explosion around his body or pinning down with crushing TK.

This is what Resignation looks like btw

If Resignation fails Mob can try other types of damage against him while he's restrained.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Base Mob:
100% starts with TK restraint followed by ragdolling when vs humans, cutting or restraint and twisting while using exorcism vs spirits (Mogami states TK is his bread and butter/speciality, plus it's what he uses vs every esper. He uses cutting against odor sniffer, Mogami's ghost form and Dimple.) [Mob's restraint also works by binding every single joint in the body, including fingers, as said by Mogami when he was possessing a girl and got restrained by base mob.)

100% Mob:
Depends entirely on the form of emotion.
100% courage seems to mix range and melee,
100% resignation restrains people then pops eyeballs/inner ears and while breaking every joint in the body.
100% anger uses cutting TK vs spirits, same as animosity vs humans.
100% sadness rebuilds stuff and traps people with rubble
100% shame: creates large smoke clouds and hides away.
100% compassion: creates an absorbing barrier.
100% obsession same as courage.
100% animosity TK crush/ragdolling/smashing people on things with hands while flying
100% ecstasy: energy blast spamming

???% Mob:
If he wants to kill a single opponent who is at range he will likely be the same thing as 100% resignation who is the closest thing to a bloodlusted Mob.
If he wants to kill many opponents that are swarming him then he does an AOE explosion around his body.
If he wants to kill a single opponent at melee range then the Toichiro fight is likely the closest thing, where he either blows the opponent away with AOE explosion around his body or pinning down with crushing TK.

This is what Resignation looks like btw

If Resignation fails Mob can try other types of damage against him while he's restrained.

Luffy can foresee that, plus removing his sight does not matter at all because people like Fujitora can fight very well while blinded.

 

[Recon1511]

It doesn't matter if he can see it coming or not, TK is thought based not a projectile that can be dodged. Luffy will see it, say "Oh thats bad I should use my amps" and on the process of doing so get restrained by Mob

 

[Epiccheev]

Luffy can foresee that,

It's done through thought based TK wich spawns on him instantly, only way to dodge is by being faster than the user's perception. (wich won't happen without amping and i don't think it's faster than thinking.)

 

[Epiccheev]

If Mob's LS gets downgraded to Class T Mob loses this decisively and gets stomped by Lucifero tho.

 

[LordGinSama]

Wait till I get out of work, in a few hours

 

[KochengPutih]

Following

 

[Tatsumi504]

luffy literally turned the lightning into rubber, he didn't just grab it .

unless the psychic energy has something different or a special property that makes it "immune" to transmutation, then luffy should be able to affect it perfectly well, especially since this supernatural energy... it's still physical energy.

Why didn't luffy just turn kaido's bolo breath into rubber then?

The fact you're saying "it's just supernatural energy...it's still physical energy" blows my mind rn.

 

[Tatsumi504]

If Mob's LS gets downgraded to Class T Mob loses this decisively and gets stomped by Lucifero tho.

And lucifero EE's the shit outta luffy

 

[Popted2]

for now i'm gonna wait Planck, because he still have to decide if he want to use the 100% form of Mob to making things more fair, because of the gap

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

Why didn't luffy just turn kaido's bolo breath into rubber then?

The fact you're saying "it's just supernatural energy...it's still physical energy" blows my mind rn.

I'm pretty sure luffy just said "bro, look at this shit" and pulled out a piece of the floor that was rubber to throw his shit back in kaido's face.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Why didn't luffy just turn kaido's bolo breath into rubber then?

The fact you're saying "it's just supernatural energy...it's still physical energy" blows my mind rn.

Random goons coming to the thread to say Luffy can't affect an energy shield when he grabbed lightning and the smoke he passively generates in G5

 

[LordGinSama]

It's done through thought based TK wich spawns on him instantly, only way to dodge is by being faster than the user's perception. (wich won't happen without amping and i don't think it's faster than thinking.)

Both are activated by thinking. G5's entire thing is turning imagination into reality simply by thinking of it.

 

[Popted2]

hey Guys for now can we wait Planck? he still have to decide to change or not to Mob 100%

 

[LordGinSama]

Why didn't luffy just turn kaido's bolo breath into rubber then?

Because he literally reflected it and at no point did Luffy ever have the chance to touch Kaido's Bolo Breath. If you read the manga instead you'd know this but time and time again you prove that you aren't knowledgeable about One Piece.

The fact you're saying "it's just supernatural energy...it's still physical energy" blows my mind rn.

Soooo your telling me that Mob's barriers lack matter as a whole huh? Scans and statements please. It being based upon supernatural energy is irrelevant, at the end of the day it's still something completely physical.