2 vs 2 The Tag Team Championship Tournament: The EVIL Boxers vs The Demonic Wizards

[DemonicDude]

Also people present your vote so far there are no votes.

 

[azontr]

Also people present your vote so far there are no votes.

How about I present deez nuts in your mouth.

 

[DemonicDude]

How about I present deez nuts in your mouth.

 

[azontr]

I would like to present to him this;

 

[FinePoint]

Alright. Well, after reviewing the linked posts I can at least vote for Evil with some confidence since their hax seems more consistently useful (especially the teleportation) and he's countered Jericho's finishers before, given that they're otherwise very comparable this will give Evil a definite edge.

As for the second match: Yu does seem far more impressive, and will probably win the fight. The Demon's regen doesn't seem all that impressive, at least not enough to win. Depending on its potency, I would predict a stalemate at most.

 

[azontr]

Yu winning the fight itself is pretty much something everyone agrees with, it's just Balor's regeneration that is being contested on.

 

[DemonicDude]

I would like to present to him this;

Bad Luck Fale vs Azontr promo battle

 

[azontr]

Bad Luck Fale vs Azontr promo battle

I'm not in Japan, nor am I a wrestler, so tf this man finna do.

 

[DemonicDude]

I'm not in Japan, nor am I a wrestler, so tf this man finna do.

 

[azontr]

okay and

 

[Rikimarox2]

I believe it is obvious by how much I argued for him, but I'm voting Yu as well.

Ain't sure about Evil vs Jericho yet, tbh.

 

[azontr]

Honestly do I even need to say I vote Yu I've been debating for his victory for the past page and a half.

 

[DemonicDude]

Rikki and Azon vote counted for Evil Boxers.

 

[DemonicDude]

I'm not in Japan, nor am I a wrestler, so tf this man finna do.

Yes you do live in Japan and Bad Luck Fale from behalf of the entire Bullet Club has one final message for you boiiiiiii
now I'm gonna go and read Yu the Boxer

 

[azontr]

Yes you do live in Japan and Bad Luck Fale from behalf of the entire Bullet Club has one final message for you boiiiiiii
now I'm gonna go and read Yu the Boxer

Bad Luck Fale? More like Bad Luck sucking my nuts.

 

[DemonicDude]

I found Bad Luck Fale in The Boxer

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Alright. Well, after reviewing the linked posts I can at least vote for Evil with some confidence since their hax seems more consistently useful (especially the teleportation) and he's countered Jericho's finishers before, given that they're otherwise very comparable this will give Evil a definite edge.

EVIL has never shown to use most of his hax in a combat scenario.

 

[Pikaman]

I believe it is obvious by how much I argued for him, but I'm voting Yu as well.

Ain't sure about Evil vs Jericho yet, tbh.

Are you sure you wanna vote if you’re not sure on the result of an entire other half of the matchup, one with arguably far more pertinence?

 

[DemonicDude]

Via rules it's allowed...

 

[Rikimarox2]

Are you sure you wanna vote if you’re not sure on the result of an entire other half of the matchup, one with arguably far more pertinence?

Yes

 

[Pikaman]

Yes

Based tbf

 

[Noneless21]

So, From the thread so far, Yu's winning his fight but can his teammates takes the w?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So, From the thread so far, Yu's winning his fight but can his teammates takes the w?

His teammate is not winning unless it can proven that EVIL uses most of hax in combat (which has not been proven yet).

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

His teammate is not winning unless it can proven that EVIL uses most of hax in combat (which has not been proven yet).

I mean, Evil did use his blackouts and teleportation to sneak attack that one dude

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I mean, Evil did use his blackouts and teleportation to sneak attack that one dude

And that's it.

Everything else has yet to be shown to used in combat.

Teleportation and blackouts are the only things he can use here.

 

[DemonicDude]

It doesn't have to be cause it's already in the tournament rules that using all Standard and Optional Weapons are allowed.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It doesn't have to be cause it's already in the tournament rules that using all Standard and Optional Weapons are allowed.

That literally does not mean anything.

If you haven't used an ability or weapon in a combat scenario, that means it isn't combat applicable.

 

[DemonicDude]

That literally does not mean anything.

It does, He can already tank Jericho's finishers and now with his powers can close out the gap, He doesn't need to be some kind of weapon master or weapon god (Infact he already uses steel chairs, Tables, Etc) so it's not like he's dumb either he makes plan off screen too, And can straight up fight with Jericho for like 3-4 minutes without tiring out and then use some Teleportation and electricity to target Jericho then Tag Out to Yu the Boxer, Now it's Yu vs Demon Balor

 

[DemonicDude]

Jericho using it on Eddie backstage is also not combat since it's 4 people holding one guy
(Best logical assumption they wanted beat him up and dragged him to Jericho who threw fireball in his eyes) it was not One vs One Combat fight either it was group of 4 people assaulting one person who was defenseless and can't even fight back.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It does, He can already tank Jericho's finishers and now with his powers can close out the gap, He doesn't need to be some kind of weapon master or weapon god (Infact he already uses steel chairs, Tables, Etc) so it's not like he's dumb either he makes plan off screen too, And can straight up fight with Jericho for like 3-4 minutes without tiring out and then use some Teleportation and electricity to target Jericho then Tag Out to Yu the Boxer, Now it's Yu vs Demon Balor

Any physical abilities you mention don't matter because EVIL lost his match against Jericho. Btw, did EVIL ever hit his finisher on Jericho? If he did, then Jericho can also tank EVIL's finishers. If he didn't, then that says a lot about Jericho if EVIL couldn't hit one finisher on him.

The problem is that EVIL has never shown to use his scythe, as well as most of his hax, in a combat scenario. The only things EVIL has used in combat was blackout and teleportation. Everything else, is extremely flawed, as you have yet to show scans of EVIL using it in combat. Saying he has Weapon Mastery doesn't matter. EVIL has used steel chairs, tables, and more. Cool. But he's never shown to use his scythe in combat. Most of his abilities are useless.

Jericho using it on Eddie backstage is also not combat since it's 4 people holding one guy
(Best logical assumption they wanted beat him up and dragged him to Jericho who threw fireball in his eyes) it was not One vs One Combat fight either it was group of 4 people assaulting one person who was defenseless and can't even fight back.

But guess what: Jericho actually used it on an opponent, which EVIL has never done with most of his hax. Here are some more examples. Jericho has actually used fireballs to blindside his opponents, which means he'd definitely be willing to use it. Plus, a backstage brawl in Pro Wrestling is still a combat scenario. Just because it's not in the ring, doesn't mean it can't be applied. Jericho has actually used fireballs and poison mist on his opponents, so he won't hesitate to use it on EVIL, while I still have to see proof that EVIL will use most of his abilities in a combat scenario.

 

[DemonicDude]

You know your argument is horrible when you say....at this point I might need to give Bad Luck Fale a call...

Any physical abilities you mention don't matter because EVIL lost his match

 

[Pikaman]

It doesn't have to be cause it's already in the tournament rules that using all Standard and Optional Weapons are allowed.

That doesn’t mean out of character abilities and/or weapons can be used

 

[RandomGuy2345]

You know your argument is horrible when you say

Apparently using something that's extremely important to mention here = argument bad.

EVIL has to rely on hax here, as when he had a normal 1v1 matchup with Jericho, he lost. It's as simple as that. There's no terrible logic in there whatsoever.

And the thing is that, EVIL doesn't use most of his hax in character. There's only a couple of them he can use here, and those aren't a guaranteed win for him here.

 

[DemonicDude]

Okay so
Tell me what happened in Evil vs Jericho match ?
What's the manuscript of the match ?
How many times did both hit each other with their moves ?
What submissions were used ?
How well did they both grapple ?

You do realize all that "matters" i mean......... you're so confident Jericho won you must've watched the match right ?
Or are you saying Jericho won that's all I need to know to make my argument for him.
cause if that's the case then when Theory pins Roman or Lesnar to win his fist WWE title by the end of the year or whenever I'm also gonna say Theory >>>>>> Lesnar cause theory won and nothing else happened in the match meant shit too

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Okay so
Tell me what happened in Evil vs Jericho match ?
What's the manuscript of the match ?
How many times did both hit each other with their moves ?
What submissions were used ?
How well did they both grapple ?

That's funny. You were arguing the whole time that EVIL can tank Jericho's finishers (aside from The Judas Effect), but when I ask you this, you completely ignored it.

Btw, did EVIL ever hit his finisher on Jericho? If he did, then Jericho can also tank EVIL's finishers. If he didn't, then that says a lot about Jericho if EVIL couldn't hit one finisher on him.

You do realize all that "matters" i mean......... you're so confident Jericho won you must've watched the match right ?
Or are you saying Jericho won that's all I need to know to make my argument for him.
cause if that's the case then when Theory pins Roman or Lesnar to win his fist WWE title by the end of the year or whenever I'm also gonna say Theory >>>>>> Lesnar cause theory won and nothing else happened in the match meant shit too

??? Dude, this is such a bad argument. Everyone knows Theory doesn't stand a chance against Lesnar or Roman. He's just going to find the right time to cash in his contract when they're at their weakest. This has nothing to do with a normal 1v1 wrestling match.

Okay so
Tell me what happened in Evil vs Jericho match ?
What's the manuscript of the match ?
How many times did both hit each other with their moves ?
What submissions were used ?
How well did they both grapple ?

I actually do lol, thanks to this. Jericho apparently kicked out of EVIL's finishers as well. EVIL hit his STO finisher through a table, and it still didn't put Jericho down. EVIL also hit his Darkness Falls move, and only got a 2 count. EVIL ended up tapping out to Jericho's Lion Tamer, which isn't even Jericho's main finisher. That goes to The Judas Effect, and I'm sure you know what happens when Jericho hits this.

 

[DemonicDude]

That's just a short script with a few ending and closing points in it not that it matters since it doesn't show the full match

Theory comparison was on point, Just cause someone lost doesn't mean they don't hold advantage on other categories, terrible arguments no wonder Finepoint left.
Plus I'm calling Fale right now
My dad Azontr will handle "any point that are left" if there even are left at this point.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

That's just a short script with a few ending and closing points in it not that it matters since it doesn't show the full match

It gave a short summary of the match, so it's basically impossible to ignore. EVIL tapped out to the Lion Tamer, and while EVIL can still fight on after getting hit with a Codebreaker, Jericho can also fight on after tanking EVIL's finishers as well. Big difference here is that EVIL is going down by The Judas Effect.

Theory comparison was on point, Just cause someone lost doesn't mean they don't hold advantage on other categories, terrible arguments no wonder Finepoint left.

No it wasn't lmao. Okay, so EVIL holds some physical advantages over Jericho, yet he still lost. What's your point here? You're gonna have to convince me really, really well that EVIL can win 1v1 wrestling match against Jericho when he never has. Also, how can you assume Finepoint left because of our arguments? That's such a horrible mindset to go by.

"Someone who isn't knowledgeable on either of the verses tries to cast a vote based on what he sees. I end up debunking him because he missed something that had to be mentioned, and now since that someone is no longer showing up, it's my fault because I made bad arguments."

Arguments that Finepoint had no clue if it were right or wrong. You're projecting at this point. You have no proof as to if whether or not Finepoint actually left because of "bad argument."

 

[RandomGuy2345]

EVIL has never shown to use most of his abilities in combat, or any physcial confrontation, unlike Jericho, who has used his fireballs and poison mist before in altercations/combat.

The abilities EVIL has used before in combat don't guarantee him a win here.

EVIL has lost to Jericho in a 1v1 matchup before, which is a really important factor here. DD has to convince me very, very well that EVIL can beat Jericho in a 1v1 wrestling match with no hax involved.

Overall, Jericho wins this more often than not. I would've conceded and said that EVIL would win against Jericho if EVIL used all of those abilities DD listed in character, but he doesn't, outside of a couple, and those hax aren't even a guaranteed win for him. Jericho's IR means he'll be a bitch to hit as well. Nowhere near impossible of course, but he'll be hard to hit.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Just cause someone lost doesn't mean they don't hold advantage on other categories, terrible arguments no wonder Finepoint left.

This comment in particular gets on my nerves.

Finepoint had no knowledge on either verses, so to assume he left because of bad arguments by me is really stupid.

 

[Pikaman]

You do realize all that "matters" i mean......... you're so confident Jericho won you must've watched the match right ?

Jericho won the match, why are you pretending EVIL could beat him man to man. Anything good you say EVIL did against Jericho in that match is just complimenting Jericho because he was better