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Nah it was newgateMy guess is most likely a statement from Sengoku, who put a heavy emphasis on Shanks being a newbie or something like that.
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Nah it was newgateMy guess is most likely a statement from Sengoku, who put a heavy emphasis on Shanks being a newbie or something like that.
Yeah, either him or Sengoku (now that you mention it, Whitebeard makes the most sense)Nah it was newgate
Yeah.Wait, if Kaido matched Oden in Base and Zoan back when he didn't have nearly as much status as he does now, wouldn't that make Hybrid Kaido >> Primebeard?
My bad, apparently it was thatchYeah, either him or Sengoku (now that you mention it, Whitebeard makes the most sense)
My bad, apparently it was thatch
You have the scan? Hard asf to find itRereading the Ace novel atm, yeah, it was him
I’ll check it when I get homeI think I applied everything, can someone tell me if I missed a profile?
Both valuesSo, wait, is it 8 or 12 teratons that was accepted?
Those aren’t 2 different ends.I'm not sure if you can use both results from one calculation. It has to be either one or the other depending on what size scaling was accepted.
Oh, my mistake then.Those aren’t 2 different ends.
Those are the calcs of 2 different Tsunami’s, I.E. 2 different feats.
Both of them were accepted, but because of the method we use, we only use the value of the highest one
He said that?Ace novel when he said that if he wanted to fight a Yonko, should’ve went to Shanks
It was thatch*
Isn't this due to him already meeting Shanks and it being Shanks who warned WB about ace attacking him.
Nada, they imply that it's cause of power, and the only reason why he didn't go after Shanks was because they were alliesIsn't this due to him already meeting Shanks and it being Shanks who warned WB about ace attacking him.
Where?This would scale to all yonko as Primebeard is stated to be = to Oldbeard
Go on his profile. Oda confirmed it for multiple people.Where?
Go on his profile. Oda confirmed it for multiple people.
That is whitebeards third key my friend. Which is sickbeard, you’re confusing those 2 keys. Old beard is the Whitebeard that was whooping ace a hundred times in his sleep even. Sickbeard is the guy who couldn’t even react to an attack from squard cause his haki is ass
You are refering to this?
I don't think that's justification enough when the same manga tells you that WB was not what he was before, even the same WB says that he can't be the strongest forever ...
There's a databook statement that states Oldbeard still possesses his old strength when he's on his meds or something along those lines. That SBS statement is a support.
The fruit being the most powerful doesn't mean the user is also the strongest. If the host is weaker why would he scale?and admirals because akainu's fruit is stated to have the highest offensive power out of all devil fruits, meaning his fruit automatically scales above this calc.
Because the fruit is being used by him and he's the one with the power?The fruit being the most powerful doesn't mean the user is also the strongest. If the host is weaker why would he scale?
Can you bring it pls?
This is off-topic.
Let's see it.Real quick.
I wanted to implement my own revision for the justifications and scaling.
@StrawHatArslan thank you for implementing the changes, I wanted to implement them using my own scaling and I wanted to add references, so I'll keep this open until then.
If it's declined then idm, but I had a scaling I've wanted to implement for a long time.
Whitebeard is stronger with his physicals than his devil fruit, it's all the same valueLittle Question, isn't that Oden Match Shirohige before he knew to use Haoshoku imbued in a sword? Oden would scale to Whitebeard Only on his Physical without DF or Hao coated and Roger should scale to Whitebeard's Hao coat and DF.
Oden Should have two keys before vs Roger and After Vs Roger
Shirohige should have detail on his Profile like with Haki or with his DF only attack.
I think it's unlikely that Whitebeard's physical strength surpasses the power of his Devil Fruit tbh.Whitebeard is stronger with his physicals than his devil fruit, it's all the same value
Whitebeard without his devil fruit can smack away hits from Akainu, who's superior to his own devil fruit.I think it's unlikely that Whitebeard's physical strength surpasses the power of his Devil Fruit tbh.
Whitebeard wasn't even focused on them when Akainu did that, which is justified by a far weaker Whitebeard holding Akainu by his neck (both lifting strength feats). And remember, with Akainu, WB was using his devil fruit to send shockwaves across the field, which Akainu blocked with his bare foot.
Initially that was his quake which he "blocked", and we also see on the same scan that his bisento went into his shoulder. Heck, he took the later quake better than he took the bisento.On top of that Blackbeard was hurt by Whitebeard when he used his quakes against him, but Blackbeard could block Whitebeard's quake-less strike just fine.
Whitebeard is stronger with his physicals than his devil fruit, it's all the same value