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Bleach - Passive Hax from Reiatsu

AppleLord

AppleLord

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Why has no one added the hax granted by reistsu in the verse?

https://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Reiatsu

Note: *It only works with opponents that are weaker than them.*

^ A 5-B vs a 6-C is a thing in this wiki, so lets add them.

List:

  • Hax Power Negation : https://i7.**********.com/bleach/391/bleach-2400793.jpg
  • Reiatsu shield (Transcendent Aizen used it, and Mayuri too.)
  • Paralysis: https://i6.***********.net/bleach/632/bleach-5763442.jpg
(Reiatsu sight allows blind people to see in combat and fight with your eyes close, and see through reiatsu clones, which Lille confused as mere illusions from Shunsui.)

Physical & Lethal Damage: self explained.

Did I missed one?
 
I myself am unknowledgeable on Bleach but i have heard about reiatsu being "haxy" and as the Bleach wiki does indeed list a decent ammount of uses when it comes to reiatsu i agree with this but only as long as its noted to work on weaker opponents.

All in all i agree but my opinion shouldnt be worth almost anything as i am unknowledgeable when it comes to Bleach.
 
Oh, I was referring to reiatsu hax abilities only. Those are also part of their arsenal by difference means.

Soul Manipulation = They have special skull sign that allows them to seperate a soul from a body. But only Rukia, and Urahara showed this.

Matter Manipulation== Can absorb reishi to restore their powers, and control it to walk on the air. (Spiritual Matter is Reishi)

BFR= vía Zanpakutou to send Souls to Soul Society or through a Zenkaimon and send them to the Dangai. Garganta is for Hollows, and Arrancars.
 
The only unique thing I see is the third bullet point. The other things are really just common things in fiction that happen when someone goes up against a person far, far above their capabilities. I said this in the Naruto thread where paralysis and fear manipulation were proposed for Orochimaru and Kurama. I really don't see them as "abilities" per se. Gildarts making someone like Natsu of all people scared of him isn't fear manipulation to me.

But at the same time, if enough people agree with it, I have no problem myself as long as it's specified that it only works on much weaker opponents.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Yeah ive never heard of Attack Reflection from reiatsu.
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Is on the wiki, Mayuri used on Perdida and if am not mistaken is why Ichigo got hurt instead of Kenpachi.
 
Is fine. I just wanted to give ir a temporary name. I don't know in what category should that be in.
 
Reasons? Canon confirmation is Canon.

https://i7.**********.com/bleach/391/bleach-2400793.jpg

Antithesis worked on Hadchwalt and Yhwach even though Uryu isnt even capable of hurting Haschwalt or Yhwach by normal means.

Its clearly a NLF to say that it blocks every hax. We should jusy do the same as with Dragon ball, give the resistances they actually show.
 
This actually seems good. I already edited soul manipulation and resistance for all Quincy but now all they need is resistant to Matter Manipulation. Shinigami need to proposed changes here along with limited Soul Manipulation, resistance to Soul Manipulation, resistance to matter manipulation, BFR and that's all I can think of at the moment.


Another thing that was suggested, possibly giving everyone who can use Blut resistance to heat and AZ.
 
YH and Jugram were both caught by surprise by his power. So is responsable to say they were caught off guard, and the negation isn't passive, but it has to be choosen.

Do you want to see their faces of shock?
 
AppleLord said:
YH and Jugram were both caught by surprise by his power. So is responsable to say they were caught off guard, and the negation isn't passive, but it has to be choosen.

Do you want to see their faces of shock?
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Haschwalt was fighting him seriously and prompted him to use his ability. 0 off-guard.

Yhwach was at his peak of power.

Unless you want to suggest that the passive reiatsu their bodies emit is different according to who they are fighting (which is not what Aizen and Zaraki explained, zaraki was totally off-guard).
 
No, the Antithesis is what caught Jugram off guard. I personally think that they should get power null, I'm not sure if it'd be really useful in a match unless they have a decent AP advantage.
 
I don't think this works on every hax..maybe ones that make physical contact like soi fon.Better to give them resistance to what he have seen.
 
I can show you the scans, they were both shock by the events. Or maybe it was because their hax attacked their bodies internally? Askin was able to kill Urahara's eye even do he is was stronger by focusing all of his reiatsu into one point. I have change passive to Hax Power Negation for now.
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
No, the Antithesis is what caught Jugram off guard. I personally think that they should get power null, I'm not sure if it'd be really useful in a match unless they have a decent AP advantage.
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If the reiatsu is supposed to be passive, the Antithesis wouldnt have caught him off-guard, it would have been lolnoped. What caught him by surprise was the effect of the Antithesis.
 
Frantzy12 said:
I don't think this works on every hax..maybe ones that make physical contact like soi fon.Better to give them resistance to what he have seen.
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But Soi Fon is a two hit kill hax.
 
@PaChi


Firstly Reiatsu is something that's a passive ability. Secondly the power null only works when there's a big enough difference. Obviously Jugram is stronger than Ishida but they're comparable, unlike Aizen and Soi Fon. Also what you said makes no sense, you yourself just admitted The Antithesis surprised him.
 
"Secondly the power null only works when there's a big enough difference." Was that ever said or explained?

I am siding more with @Pachi on this.
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
@PaChi


Firstly Reiatsu is something that's a passive ability. Secondly the power null only works when there's a big enough difference. Obviously Jugram is stronger than Ishida but they're comparable, unlike Aizen and Soi Fon. Also what you said makes no sense, you yourself just admitted The Antithesis surprised him.
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Yhwach after absorbing the soul king is comparable to Ishida too, I guess.

And if by comparable you mean Haschwalt beating him with Uryu being incapable of hurting him by normal means, then yes yes, because soifon at least was capable of piercing through Aizen's body.
 
Aizen is leagues above Soi Fon. His Reiatsu is much more impressive than what she has to offer. Shinigami battles are battles of Reiatsu; if one possess a greater level of Reiatsu, then the other can be overcome completely, such as when Suì-Fēng's Nigeki Kessatsu failed against Sōsuke Aizen.
 
@PaChi


Not sure why you keep Ishida and Yhwach. No, that moment was complete PIS. So bringing that up is a incredibly fallacious argument and a Golden Mean on your end.


Again you can't compare the gap between Jugram and Ishida to the gap between Aizen and Soi Fon. And I don't recall her ever damaging Aizen so scans of her doing so would be appreciated.
 
If you wanted something like "passive hax negation" to go through, you'd need much more evidence. And the thing to be consistent in the setting. Simple as that.
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
^You really shouldn't compare the two verses dude.....
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Dragon ball has more feats of nopping hax from weaker beings than bleach, just saying.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Yeah no im agreeing with Pachi.

This is massive NLF on ridiculous levels and if we don't allow it for DB, Bleach isn't getting a free pass.
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Wew


Considering that you're someone who always says don't bring Bleach in Naruto related threads, this seems pretty ironic. You yourself shouldn't bring a series into something that's unrelated. low key surprised it wasn't something about Pokémo


Also again I'll remind everyone. Something like that would not be useful in a normal match, it'd also be useful where the Bleach character has a good AP advantage and the power null would only work on its shown. Don't twist things up to make it seem I'm a wanker who's implying this would negate Reinhard's spear.
 
Since this involves everyone in the verse and could potentially become a problem depending on how its argued, I think we need more input to evaluate this "Hax passive negation".

@Applelord

Please link the evidence (aka Aizen's and Zaraki's speeches, Aizen lolnoping Soi Fong).

I will highlight this for now.
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
I really don't think this needed a highlight. Seems like a bit of an overreaction for something so small.
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The problem is that involves everyone. Literally everyone.

We do highlight revisions that involve large parts of well-known verses.

But as I said, its just for now.
 
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