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My only issue with AnonymousBlank's proposal is that RG Byakuya should also be scaling to Gerard.
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Bleach Revisions Part 3: Post-Timeskip (Fullbring, TYBW and CFYOW Novel) (Part 2)
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@IMade; doesn't AnonymousBlank's post mention that Byakuya fights As Nodt and Gerard?
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Not his Post-Resurrected forms.
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Pretty sure I said resurrected and if you are referring to his god form, Vollstandig, energy form etc, I was under the assumption I didn't need to state the obvious as he would always be at least as fast as his rezzed base.AnonymousBlank said:
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You need to since it's a comprehensive scaling chain we're gonna work on for now.
We can't leave anything out and only hve 50 messages left in this thread to get something done.
We can't leave anything out and only hve 50 messages left in this thread to get something done.
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Is there really no possibility of Scaling Hikone for Mimihage/SK lvl? Why Novel states that Hikone is indead suited to Rei-.
Statement from Novel:
"As if all the missing pieces fell into place, Hikone's reiatsu completely evolved to resemble the one above. The reiatsu of Ikomikidomoe was not simply added to Hikone's. This ancient reiatsu became the key to unlock the Gentei Kaijo that was placed upon Hikone's body.
Those who sensed this unique reiatsu, although different from Aizen's, instinctively felt, rather than understood, that this child was indeed suited to be the Rei-o."
Statement from Novel:
"As if all the missing pieces fell into place, Hikone's reiatsu completely evolved to resemble the one above. The reiatsu of Ikomikidomoe was not simply added to Hikone's. This ancient reiatsu became the key to unlock the Gentei Kaijo that was placed upon Hikone's body.
Those who sensed this unique reiatsu, although different from Aizen's, instinctively felt, rather than understood, that this child was indeed suited to be the Rei-o."
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No. That would just make him a candidate and not comparable to the SKKelsonBR said:
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We still need Scale Ginjo to Hikone.
Yoru / Toki to Byakuya , also Tokinada tanked bankai getsuga from Ginjo, so no problem at all,
Grimmjow and all espada arrancars to 6-A tier in release( cause he was in base ~ shikai Ginjo , who in bankai should be high 6-A)
And many other scalling.
Yoru / Toki to Byakuya , also Tokinada tanked bankai getsuga from Ginjo, so no problem at all,
Grimmjow and all espada arrancars to 6-A tier in release( cause he was in base ~ shikai Ginjo , who in bankai should be high 6-A)
And many other scalling.
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Even Novel emphasizing this with such certainty?
Something like "Indead Suited" and "He's a Candidate who has the minimum requirements why is it a hybrid " to me doesn't seem to be the same thing. One indicates that the candidate achieves the Maximum Requirements and the other the Minimum Requirements. Candidate would be Ginjo that the stated reason was to have been a Hybrid. He would only have the Minimum Requirements because Novel makes it clear that High Reiatsu is a Requirement that Hikone has been declared to achieve
Something like "Indead Suited" and "He's a Candidate who has the minimum requirements why is it a hybrid " to me doesn't seem to be the same thing. One indicates that the candidate achieves the Maximum Requirements and the other the Minimum Requirements. Candidate would be Ginjo that the stated reason was to have been a Hybrid. He would only have the Minimum Requirements because Novel makes it clear that High Reiatsu is a Requirement that Hikone has been declared to achieve
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So you're basically stating he's equal to Aizen ?
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Oh right...Otherwise you're declaring Hikone should be on the level of that Aizen which makes Kenpachi on the same level
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FTL from the new calc and the new AP because we got some multipliers acceptedDooyo said:
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Did you saw the accpeted calc?Dooyo said:
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The calcul in itself is fine, the problem that I have is using it when it comes from far weaker characters and top tiers never showed that level of speed ONCE, they are multiple relatisvistic speed feat from top tier showing consistency.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
If that feat was done from top tier or God tier, it would be fine.
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Well, it isn't on his profile right? And like I said, you have the problem of being outlier.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
Renji is a fodder in that verse compared to top tier, same top tier which onlu had several sub relativistic and relativistic speed calc.
If you let that slide, then the meaning of outlier is throw out of the windom
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It isn't on his profile yet because this is the thread for discussing the scaling, who would scale to it and who would not scale to it.
If we come to the conclusion after analyzing it that it can't be used, then it won't be used.
If we come to the conclusion after analyzing it that it can't be used, then it won't be used.
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Their speed was already at relativistic if the calc put them from there to Massively FTL+ then yea it would be a big just but from relativistic is not that massive plus is not about "well i dont like it that they will recive this" is about being accurate
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You realize that there is a huge gap between Relativistic and FTL right?TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
Light speed can literally blitz a character at only Relativistic, it isn't that "I don't like it" but it came from a fodder known as Renji who isn't close to top tier.
Meaning of outlier is feat outside of the usual portrayal of feat from the top tier of said series, if you let that slide, that means you have a bias for Bleach and you will have to accept others outlier from several others series to remain intellectually consistent. I hate double standards
I wouldn't had a problem if it came from Aizen, Ichigo and Yhwach for instance
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Man, if you want to argue being an outlier, make a thread and argue there, do not come to bring unreasonable subject in this topic.
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Read the topic and stop being a lazy shit.Dooyo said:
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Read again until you understand, nobody is your drool to keep giving things in your mouth.Dooyo said:
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No, here is the topic of escalation, who climbs for this, the calculation has already been accepted, if you want to debate whether or not this is a discrepant, CREATE YOUR OWN TOPIC.Dooyo said:
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@Antvasima; considering the forum move and that any new thread would not be carried over, starting a new thread does not seem worthwhile.
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Well, we just ran into some complications with the forum move, so it might take quite a while. If there isn't much left to discuss here, maybe you could finish this up instead of waiting for a month?
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@Antvasima; at this point wer'e barely into the discussions. There's no way it can be wrapped up quickly. There's disagreements on the ratings for pretty much every character in this saga of the verse.
I'm not trying to sound hyperbolic here, but it would have been an understatement to say "There's still some topics left to cover."
I'm not trying to sound hyperbolic here, but it would have been an understatement to say "There's still some topics left to cover."
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Have you made like any progress at all?
I'm still not pleased with this massive clear stonewalling. Wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else.
I'm still not pleased with this massive clear stonewalling. Wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else.
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Sure, I've got some more ideas.
But I'm waiting for a better time before posting them in full.
Incidentally I was looking over some of the ratings in the OP earlier and noticed this:
> Durability: Large Country level (Did not even faze after cutting his own neck to drain his blood just to counter Askin's The Deathdealing and was still able to move to attack Askin and have a talk with him)
Is Oetsu survivng cutting his own neck actually a durability feat? It's not like he tanked or withstood anything. It's a stamina feat if anything.
But I'm waiting for a better time before posting them in full.
Incidentally I was looking over some of the ratings in the OP earlier and noticed this:
> Durability: Large Country level (Did not even faze after cutting his own neck to drain his blood just to counter Askin's The Deathdealing and was still able to move to attack Askin and have a talk with him)
Is Oetsu survivng cutting his own neck actually a durability feat? It's not like he tanked or withstood anything. It's a stamina feat if anything.
