Bleach Revisions Part 3: Post-Timeskip (Fullbring, TYBW and CFYOW Novel) (Part 2)

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I'm pretty sure the point is he did it.

Don't think he actually ever got hurt since all he did was insta kill them.

 

[Dooyo]

Those multipliers on each stats reek some wank.

It is stated that a Bankai is at least 5 times as a Multiplier than the Shikai but 5 times in where among their stats?

You "assume" all the stats but we know IN REALITY that it is case by case which is a huge headache.

For example, some Bankai increase the Attack Potency from the Shikai but nothing change on the Durability of the user, some Bankai just increase the ability potency of the Shikai, the durability and attack potency via raw power remain the same.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Dooyo what are you even talking about man. We already know this. Everything you stated since your 1st post is all taken into account lol.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Those multipliers on each stats reek some wank.

It is stated that a Bankai is at least 5 times as a Multiplier than the Shikai but 5 times in where among their starts?

You "assume" all the stats but we know IN REALITY that it is case by case which is a huge headache.

For example, some Bankai increase the Attack Potency from the Shikai but nothing change on the Durability, some Bankai just increase the ability potency of the Shikai, the durability and attack potency via raw power remain the same.

Except these Bankai increases are ONLY for the ones that showcase this

 

[Dooyo]

Dooyo what are you even talking about man. We already know this. Everything you stated since your 1st post is all taken into account lol.

Sorry man, I didn't read it, I am still reading the previous thread before this one to catch up.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Okay.

5-B is via a statement, doesn't have a calc itself. Large Planet is based off of Yhwach's absorption. Which is pretty much baseline.

Only characters with clear statistics increase get a multiplier based on what they've displayed.

Multiple Rel calcs and a FTL calc for a top tier isn't an outlier.

 

[Antvasima]

You only have very few posts left, and as such need a continuation thread immediately, and to not make any other replies whatsoever until then.

The replies might be saved after all btw: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4279432

 

[Ahegao-chan]

How is Shuhei Hisagi not at MFTL? Have you actually read the novel? He tagged and stalemated Hikone. Who should scale to bleach high tiers. Hisagi us MFTL

 

[Zezu1995]

truth is in that fight the best thing is hisagis rei output , his bankai drains the rei or both users and when it drops to zero they die forreal which means who has the higher rei wins... if he could stall hikone thats something

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Shuhei let Hikone attack non stop and waste power

 

[Sekkonds.]

No one seemed to be doing it so i've turned AnonymousBlank's speed proposal into a big one,so we can atleast start the debate from there and have some progress with the speed scaling?

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Dangai Ichigo

Speed: Massively FTL (As a Transcendent being Ichigo is above a Resurrección and Gentei Kaijou released Hikone and CFYOW base Kenpachi. Blitzed a Transcendent Aizen from a great distance without difficulty) Key: Post-Dangai Training

Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)

Speed: Relativistic (Can keep up with Tsukishima) | At least Relativistic, higher with Fullbring Bankai | Massively FTL (Reclaimed the power he once had that he used to defeat Aizen), higher with Merged Hollow Form | Massively FTL (Ichigo's Bankai multiplies his stats by 5), higher with Merged Hollow Form Key: Fullbring Arc | Power Restored | True Shikai | True Bankai

Kisuke Urahara

Speed: Relativistic (Was nonchalantly keeping up with Askin) Key: Thousand Year Blood WarArc

Yoruichi Shihoi

Speed: Relativistic ([https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0656-014.png Kept up with and dodged Askin's arrows]), higher with Shunkō, even higher with Flash Goddess Form (Blitzed Askin) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Sosuke Aize

Speed: Massively FTL (As a Transcendent being, Aizen is above a Resurrección and Gentei Kaijou released Hikone and CFYOW base Kenpachi ) | Massively FTL (Faster than before) | Massively FTL (Kept up with Yhwach in their fight) Key: Transcendent Aize | God Aize | Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Ichibē Hyōsube

Speed: At least FTL (Kept up with Yhwach, who could react to and eventually absorb Mimihagi, and almost immediately caught up to him after knocking him a thousand ri away) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Ōetsu Nimaiya

Speed: FTL (He is fast enough to quickly overwhelm four Sternritter, who were Yhwach's Elite Sternritter with rapid attacks and movements before most of them could react properly) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Tenjirō Kirinji

Speed: Relativistic (Blitzed Suì-Fēng. He used shunpo to get from one of the floating cities to the main entrance to confront Yhwach, he appeared before Yhwach's Soldat could advance. During his time in Soul Society, he was known as "Lightning-Fast Tenjirō" (ÚøÀÞ┐àÒü«Õñ®þñ║ÚâÄ, Raijin no Tenjirō) for his skill in Shunpo) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Senjumaru Shutara

Speed: Relativistic (She is fast enough to overwhelm a Sternritter, with her rapid arms and movements before he even knew about it. Also, while the other members of the Zero Division discussed their plan to take Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip) to the Royal Palace, Senjumaru left to retrieve Byakuya Kuchiki, Renji, Rukia and the broken Tensa Zangetsu. She carried them all back in large, translucent orbs, stating to those assembled that all of the ones on their list are present before the group knew that she was gone) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Shigekuni Yamamoto Genryusai

Speed: FTL (Tagged Äs Nodt and Bazz B. Kept up with Royd) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Suì-Fēng

Speed: Relativistic (One of the fastest Shunpo practitioners in the Gotei 13, should be comparable to most Captains), higher with Shunkō Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Marechiyo Omaeda

Speed: Relativistic ([https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0553-004.png Is fast enough to retrieve Suì-Fēng from BG9 and move to a further area despite him focusing his attention on her and can sense people with accurate descriptions.] [https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0549-006.png His attack was able to hit BG9]) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Izuru Kira

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Hisagi) Key: Deadman

Retsu Unohana

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with Zaraki during their training) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Byakuya Kuchiki

Speed: Relativistic (Comparable to his Pre-Timeskip self) | FTL (Fought on bqr with resurrected Gerard) Key: Post-Timeskip | Post-Royal Guard Training

Renji Abarai

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Even faster than before after training during the 17 month timeskip, comparable to Hisagi) | FTL (Blocked a beam of light) Key: Post-Timeskip | Post-Royal Guard Training

Sajin Komamura

Speed: Relativistic (Able to keep up with Bambietta) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Shunsui Kyōraku

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with Lille) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Nanao Ise

Speed: Relativistic ([https://v217.**********.com/manga/Bleach/0645-003.png Kept up with Shunsui and was complemented by him]) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Shühei Hisagi

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Trained with Mashiro and Kensei) | FTL (Blitzed Aura, fast enough to make Tokinada have to dodge his attacks) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc | CFYOW Novel

Tōshirō Hitsugaya

Speed: Sub-Relativistic (Faster than his pre-timeskip self after training), Relativistic with Bankai | FTL (Able to keep up with Gerard) | FTL(Far superior to before) Key: Post-Timeskip | Post-Training | Matured Bankai

Kenpachi Zaraki

Speed: Relativistic (Superior to his Pre-Timeskip self, kept up with himself) | FTL (Kept up with Unohana, kept up with Gremmy and at times blitzed him) | FTL (Faster than before), FTL+ with Bankai (Kenpachi's Bankai multiplies his AP and Speed by 5, blitzed a God Size Gerard) | Massively FTL (Kept up with Hikone) Key: Thousand Year Blood War | Post-Unohana Training | Post-Gremmy Fight | CFYOW Novel

Mayuri Kurotsuchi

Speed: FTL (Able to perform surgery on his hand, stop Pernida's nerves and reconstruct his hand before Pernida could react. He was also able to dodge Pernida's multiple Heilig Pfeil barrage with ease) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Nemu Kurotsuchi

Speed: FTL (Able to catch a Heilig Pfeil fired from Pernida and save Mayuri), higher with power enhancement (Blitzed Pernida) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Jüshirō Ukitake

Speed: Relativistic (Comparable to Shunsui) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Rukia Kuchiki

Speed: FTL (Comparable to Renji, fought against and defeated As Nodt) Key: Post-Royal Guard Training

Arrancar

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Tier Harribel

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with the other Espada) Key: CFYOW Novel

Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez

Speed: Relativistic (Blitzed Urahara from a considerable distance away) | Relativistic (Dodged a Getsuga Tenshō from Ginjo at point-blank, dodged a Gran Rey Cero from Luppi by a hair's breadth by changing its trajectory with his own cero),higher with Resurrección Key: Thousand Year Blood War | CFYOW Novel

Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with the other Espada) Key: CFYOW Novel

Luppi Antenor

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with Grimmjow) Key: CFYOW Novel

Quincy

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Uryü Ishida

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with Jugram in their fight) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Yhwach

Speed: At least FTL (Superior to all the Sternritter, blitzed Yamamoto and kept up with Ichibei) | Massively FTL (Intercepted Mimihagi, kept up with True Shikai Ichigo) | At least Massively FTL (Faster than before, absorbed Mimihagi) | At least Massively FTL (Far superior to his previous form) | At least Massively FTL (Superior to his previous form, faster than a True Bankai Ichigo)

Jugram Haschwalth

Speed: Relativistic (Faster than a Fullbring Bankai Ichigo, kept up with Uryü, as the Grandmaster he should be above the lower tier Sternritter)

Pernida Parnkgjas

Speed: FTL (Adapted and evolved to Post- Gremmy fight Kenpachi's level. As one of the Schutzstaffel it should be above the lower tier Sternritter)

Askin Nakk Le Vaar

Speed: Relativistic (Above the lower tier Sternritter. He is the swiftest among the elites) | Relativistic (Superior to his previous form) Key: Post-Auswähle | Quincy: Vollständig

Bambietta Basterbine

Speed: Relativistic (Comparable to the rest of the female Sternritter) | Relativistic (Superior to before) Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig

As Nodt

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with Byakuya) | FTL (Fought on bar with Rukia) Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig

Liltotto Lamperd

Speed: Relativistic (Comparable to the rest of the female Sternritter) | Relativistic (Faster than before. [https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0586-006.png Kept up with the other Sternritter]. Dodged Yhwach's Auswähle while also grabbing Giselle to safety) | Relativistic Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig | CFYOW Novel

Bazz-B

Speed: FTL (Faster than [[Tōshirō Hitsugaya|Tōshirō]]) | FTL (Faster than before. [https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0586-006.png Kept up with the other Sternritter]) Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig

Cang Du

Speed: FTL (Fought Tōshirō)

Quilge Opie

Speed: Relativistic (Shouldn't be that much slower than his Vollständig state) | Relativistic (Kept up with Fullbring Shikai Ichigo) | Relativistic (Can somewhat keep up with Ichigo in Fullbring Bankai for a bit) Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig | Post-Ayon Absorption

BG9

Speed: Relativistic (Able to catch Suì-Fēng by surprise and kept up with her during their fight)

PePe Waccabrada

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ | Massively Hypersonic+ Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig

Gerard Valkyrie

Speed: FTL (Fought against Post-Royal Guard Training Renji) | FTL (Despite being very huge in size, he could still keep up with Kenpachi, Tōshirō, and [[Byakuya Kuchiki|Byakuya]] and blocked attacks from them) | FTL (Faster than before, can keep up with a Matured Tōshirō) | FTL (Should be faster than before) Key: Post-Auswähle | God Size | Quincy: Vollständig | Vollständig Second Form

Meninas McAllo

Speed: Relativistic (Comparable to the female Sternritter) | FTL (Faster than base. [https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0586-006.png Kept up with the other Sternritter]) | FTL Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig | CFYOW Novel

Mask De Masculine

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Faster than Renji and Hisagi) | Relativistic (Faster than Rojuro and Kensei), Speed of Light attack speed with Star Flash (Can fire a beam of light from his star shaped mask) | FTL ([https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0563-010.png After powering up a second time], [https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0563-011.png Mask proceeded to pressure Post-Royal Guard Training Renji with a barrage of attacks]) Key: Base | Partial Cheers | Full Power

Candice Catnipp

Speed: Relativistic (Comparable to the other female Sternitter, dodged an attack from Kenpachi) | Relativistic (Kept up with the other Sternritter) | Relativistic Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig | CFYOW Novel

Gremmy Thoumeaux

Speed: FTL (Kept up with a Post-Unohana Training Kenpachi)

Guenael Lee

Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Can also use Vanishing Slider to react with a speed that surpasses his opponents reaction speed)

Nianzol Weizol

Speed: Unknow

Lille Barro

Speed: Relativistic (Above the lower tier Sternritter) | Relativistic (Faster than before. Can teleport in Quincy: Vollständig) | FTL Key: Post-Auswähle | Quincy: Vollständig | Vollständig Second Form

Royd Lloyd

Speed: FTL (Comparable to Yamamoto. Easily defeated Kenpachi)

Loyd Lloyd

Speed: Varies up to Relativistic (Gave Kenpachi a hard time)

Giselle Gewelle

Speed: Relativistic (Comparable to Liltotto) | Relativistic (Faster than before) Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc | CFYOW Novel

Visoreds

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Shinji Hirako

Speed: Relativistic (Can keep up with Base Hikone, dodged a Cero from [[Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez|Grimmjow]]) Key: CFYOW Novel

Kensei Muguruma

Speed: Relativistic (Can keep with Yoruichi) Key: CFYOW Novel Fullbringer

Fullbringer

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Kugo Ginjo

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with Tsukishima albeit he was not serious and was more interested in Ichigo) | Relativistic (Kept up with Ichigo) | Relativistic (Faster than before) | Relativistic (Dodged multiple attacks from Candice, kept up with Grimmjow and Tokinada, evaded Luppi's Gran Rey Cero) Key: Base | After absorbing Ichigo's Fullbring | Bankai | CFYOW Novel

Shükurō Tsukishima

Speed: Relativistic (Can keep up with Byakuya and can dodge his attacks) | Relativistic (Dodged Luppi's Gran Rey Cero) Key: Fullbring Arc | CFYOW Novel

Jackie Trista

Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Comparable to Moe)

Moe Shishigawara

Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Kept up with Ikkaku)

Other

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Orihime Inoue

Speed: Relativistic ([https://imgur.com/a/11t61 Reacts and throws up a Santen Kesshun to stop Fullbring Ichigo's blitz on Tsukishima], [https://i.imgur.com/F00STuo.png can keep up with Chad]) | Relativistic with Massively FTL reaction speed ([https://imgur.com/a/Erm3Q Reacts and throws out a Santen Kesshun to stop a direct blow from Yhwach's sword despite him overpowering True Shikai Ichigo casually]) Key: Fullbring Arc | Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Yasutora Sado (Chad)

Speed: Relativistic ([https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Bleach/0455-018.png Fast enough to surprise Ichigo] and [https://i.imgur.com/F00STuo.png was fast enough to block his attack against Tsukishima]) | Relativistic Key: Fullbring Arc | Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Aura Michibane

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up with Urahara. Even while on the verge of death she was fast enough to stop Ikomikidomoe from attacking Hikone while everyone else couldn't)

Tokinada Tsunayashiro

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up and went blow for blow with Shunsui, blocked his Kageoni, blocked an attack from Yoruichi)

Hikone Ubuginu

Speed: Relativistic (Kept up and dodged attacks from the arrancars and female Sternritter) | FTL (Faster than before, dodged a swing from Kenpachi), FTL+ with Resurrección (Hikone's Resurrección multiplies their stats by 5), Massively FTL with Gentei Kaijou released (Gentei Kaijou multiplies the users stats by 5, moved so fast as if time stood still) Key: First Fight | Second Fight

Soul King

Speed: At least Massively FTL (Is the supreme being of the Bleach verse, should be above everyone) Key: Prime Soul King

Mimihagi

Speed: FTL (Easily traveled to the Soul King Palace in mere moments. One of the fastest beings seen in the series so far)

Zangetsu

Speed: Massively FTL (As fast as Post-Dangai Ichigo and was keeping up with him) | Massively FTL (On par with Ichigo) Key: Merged Form | Asauchi Zangetsu

Yüshirō Shihōi

Speed: Relativistic (Able to keep up with Yoruichi. Being the head of the Shihōin clan, he should be one of the best Shunpō practitioners in Soul Society)

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Someone should make a new thread since this one is at it's limit.

 

[Purgy]

I'm confused, is the forum move not going to affect this thread?

 

[Damage3245]

I'm confused, is the forum move not going to affect this thread?

It is, which is why it would be better off to just collect what we have so far and restart the revisions post-forum move.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

I'm not really sure.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Forum move got delayed iirc.

@Sekkonds

Thanks for that. I suck at the source code and stumbled over most of it whenever I had time to try.