Zeref dragneel against Son goku

[Mndks]

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[CryptonBestDbFan]

How you want to argue like hah? U did really nothing for come to a conclusion except telling people; "i agree". Come on crypton, dont be shy now. I will not bite you

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[Zeinx1]

What we're saying is very simple, during the spread of Zeref's Ankhseram, and even until those black smoke appears around Zeref, Goku will move first. If we consider that Goku acts on instinct and has a good analytical combat mind, we can say that Goku will make the first move, as we said in the previous discussion pages, if you argue that Goku can't do it because of his character, then Goku will summon Zeno and Zeno will destroy the timeline and Goku, He'll know that Zeref wants to hurt him so yeah why not use goku's, and the other thing we want to talk about is mafuba, and if you assume Goku can't use it, it completely limits Goku's power Because the sealing power is already in Goku's profile

This has already been answered on page 3 (by clover)

 

[Burkiqwe]

first of all you are ducking here by saying that it has nothing to do with fallacy because I told you why brother. also can you tell me which of these rules I am not following? if I am wank why can't you refute what I said in a way that I can't answer :d if you can't read I mean how much does it concern me that you are visually impaired? i don't even need to tell you what you wrote, which is clearly written on the ethernano wiki page. and i threw this page away. anyway if you are too lazy to look at it you shouldn't be doing the job called debate. anyway now look first of all what we call ethernano is not just drawn to get stronger. this is already clearly shown in the zeref vs natsu scene in the anime. even though natsu's power was not exhausted he was passively drawing ethernano to absorb zeref's anskheram to make his body stronger. I hope you understand, and as for the "not the same kind of atom" thing, this happened with itachi. itachi's genjutsu cannot be used because the chakra is not the same as other energies, etc. First of all, if there is no word "limited" in vsb, unfortunately, you have to take it all as works.

Dude, seriously, it's so frustrating that you still have the face to answer me. You want me to show you the rules you don't follow? That's the kind of nerve one would expect from someone who wanks l1c zeref in vs threads. It's not my problem that you're still spamming me nonstop and waiting me to shut your voice, man. I've already explained to you why it's not a win condition. You call me visually impaired but your scan is 144p, I'm seriously starting to doubt your sanity. Yes, you talk about a scene but it's useless, I can't see anything to prove your point. You still haven't responded to my "not the same type of atom" statement. What does itachin have to do with it and what does this example mean. As usual, you are missing my points and pulling them out of context. I've never seen such a ridiculous example in my life. I'm still waiting for an answer from you, if you don't have an answer you can shut up instead of rambling on with your ignorance. Also, did you just say that there is no such word as "limited" in vsb? Please tell me you were joking. It's funny that you said that when there are dozens of examples of limited hax in the wiki.

 

[Chardee.wl]

What we're saying is very simple, during the spread of Zeref's Ankhseram, and even until those black smoke appears around Zeref, Goku will move first. If we consider that Goku acts on instinct and has a good analytical combat mind, we can say that Goku will make the first move, as we said in the previous discussion pages, if you argue that Goku can't do it because of his character, then Goku will summon Zeno and Zeno will destroy the timeline and Goku, He'll know that Zeref wants to hurt him so yeah why not use goku's, and the other thing we want to talk about is mafuba, and if you assume Goku can't use it, it completely limits Goku's power Because the sealing power is already in Goku's profile

clover has already debunked this claim

 

[LordGinSama]

I hope you understand, and as for the "not the same kind of atom" thing, this happened with itachi. itachi's genjutsu cannot be used because the chakra is not the same as other energies, etc. First of all, if there is no word "limited" in vsb, unfortunately, you have to take it all as works.

You literally have no idea what your yapping about. Zeref's Absorbtion is not combat applicable.

 

[BaranDragneel]

Dude, seriously, it's so frustrating that you still have the face to answer me. You want me to show you the rules you don't follow? That's the kind of nerve one would expect from someone who wanks l1c zeref in vs threads. It's not my problem that you're still spamming me nonstop and waiting me to shut your voice, man. I've already explained to you why it's not a win condition. You call me visually impaired but your scan is 144p, I'm seriously starting to doubt your sanity. Yes, you talk about a scene but it's useless, I can't see anything to prove your point. You still haven't responded to my "not the same type of atom" statement. What does itachin have to do with it and what does this example mean. As usual, you are missing my points and pulling them out of context. I've never seen such a ridiculous example in my life. I'm still waiting for an answer from you, if you don't have an answer you can shut up instead of rambling on with your ignorance. Also, did you just say that there is no such word as "limited" in vsb? Please tell me you were joking. It's funny that you said that when there are dozens of examples of limited hax in the wiki.

A bunch of emotions andnothing serious to worry about from you. As I expected Burki.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Zeref's Absorbtion is not combat applicable.

 

[LordGinSama]

A bunch of emotions andnothing serious to worry about from you. As I expected Burki.

This is ironic.

 

[ZetsuEarly0]

Goku wins this comparison. (I read the discussion and goku should get the zeref)

 

[Valeska24]

clover has already debunked this claim

Ah, then I didn't see it. Could you please re-send me the scan that proves that Ankhseram spreading speed rate as Zeref wanted? And the other things I said are still waiting for an answer

 

[Valeska24]

A bunch of emotions andnothing serious to worry about from you. As I expected Burki.

What do these words mean? Stop provoking people ,I start doubting the seriousness of this vs thread

 

[BaranDragneel]

Goku wins this comparison. (I read the discussion and goku should get the zeref)

I know you are not giving the decision without proving anything that goku wins against zeref

 

[Chardee.wl]

Ah, then I didn't see it. Could you please re-send me the scan that proves that Ankhseram spreading speed rate as Zeref wanted? And the other things I said are still waiting for an answer

Everything here is clearly wrong. Zeref always starts with Death Hax, has a range of hundreds of kilometers and his attack speed is only blocked when he values life. When he is willing to kill (in other words, if he forgets the value of life), his attack speed is no longer blocked, it is at full speed


On page 3 or 4 I have scans of this, you can look at them.

 

[ZetsuEarly0]

I also think this discussion is a waste of time

 

[Chardee.wl]

Goku wins this comparison. (I read the discussion and goku should get the zeref)

why do you think that

 

[ZetsuEarly0]

I know you are not giving the decision without proving anything that goku wins against zeref

There are just a few things that make sense to me man so goku should win.

 

[Burkiqwe]

A bunch of emotions andnothing serious to worry about from you. As I expected Burki.

 

[BaranDragneel]

What do these words mean? Stop provoking people ,I start doubting the seriousness of this vs thread

So basically He's talking about how absorbation is ironic and nonsense and you are taking sides, not being objective.

He's the one provoking people.

Also this thread already lost the seriousness when you guys started to not accept a fact that Zeref got the haxes to beat Goku.

 

[BaranDragneel]

There are just a few things that make sense to me man so goku should win.

What are these things brother

 

[chosen]

This thread going too far someoen close it

 

[AnonymousBlank]

It’s a Sunday afternoon but all y’all are sat inside in your parents’ basement meatriding Goku while high on cope or needlessly wanking Zeref to match the other side’s illiteracy. Go outside and touch grass ffs.

 

[Chardee.wl]

It’s a Sunday afternoon but all y’all are sat inside in your parents’ basement meatriding Goku while high on cope or needlessly wanking Zeref to match the other side’s illiteracy. Go outside and touch grass ffs.

Man, he's really got 13,000 messages and he's telling us to touch the grass .

 

[CloverDragon03]

You literally have no idea what your yapping about. Zeref's Absorbtion is not combat applicable.

This is true. Zeref absorbing Ethernano isn’t really combat applicable, it’s just how he restores his magic

 

[Sasukesama0492]

first of all you are ducking here by saying that it has nothing to do with fallacy because I told you why brother. also can you tell me which of these rules I am not following? if I am wank why can't you refute what I said in a way that I can't answer :d if you can't read I mean how much does it concern me that you are visually impaired? i don't even need to tell you what you wrote, which is clearly written on the ethernano wiki page. and i threw this page away. anyway if you are too lazy to look at it you shouldn't be doing the job called debate. anyway now look first of all what we call ethernano is not just drawn to get stronger. this is already clearly shown in the zeref vs natsu scene in the anime. even though natsu's power was not exhausted he was passively drawing ethernano to absorb zeref's anskheram to make his body stronger. I hope you understand, and as for the "not the same kind of atom" thing, this happened with itachi. itachi's genjutsu cannot be used because the chakra is not the same as other energies, etc. First of all, if there is no word "limited" in vsb, unfortunately, you have to take it all as works.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Man, he's really got 13,000 messages and he's telling us to touch the grass .

Over the course of near 4 years since this forum was established, more than half of which was during covid plus multiple years prior on the old forum? Yeah. Now sit your goober ass down and stop making spite threads.

 

[LordGinSama]

Man, he's really got 13,000 messages and he's telling us to touch the grass .

You literally sound about 13 years old so drop that attitude. Don't swing on one of your elders boyo, last but not least I'm pretty sure Blank also has a job unlike a certain Zeref Stan.

 

[Zeinx1]

Dude, seriously, it's so frustrating that you still have the face to answer me. You want me to show you the rules you don't follow? That's the kind of nerve one would expect from someone who wanks l1c zeref in vs threads. It's not my problem that you're still spamming me nonstop and waiting me to shut your voice, man. I've already explained to you why it's not a win condition. You call me visually impaired but your scan is 144p, I'm seriously starting to doubt your sanity. Yes, you talk about a scene but it's useless, I can't see anything to prove your point. You still haven't responded to my "not the same type of atom" statement. What does itachin have to do with it and what does this example mean. As usual, you are missing my points and pulling them out of context. I've never seen such a ridiculous example in my life. I'm still waiting for an answer from you, if you don't have an answer you can shut up instead of rambling on with your ignorance. Also, did you just say that there is no such word as "limited" in vsb? Please tell me you were joking. It's funny that you said that when there are dozens of examples of limited hax in the wiki.

You literally have no idea what your yapping about. Zeref's Absorbtion is not combat applicable.

First of all, as I told you my friend, if I wank as much as you say, why don't you debunk me in a way that I can't answer?

I think it's a compliment to me and an insult to yourself. Because if I can go this far even though I don't wank, then I'm a very good wanker right?

Anyway, let me explain it to you properly. Yes, I called you disabled because you can read the parts that are needed there.

but if you say I can't read it, you could at least google it and copy it from there and then translate it and look at it

(I tried to see if it copies, it does).

As I said, if none of them existed, you could look at the fandom. anyway, I already explained the same kind of atom part with itachi.

itachi's genjustus can't be used because they say chakra and others are not the same.

but in vsb such inverse things became available in corssverse I guess you don't know about it "burkiqwe"

zeref can be used to absorb atoms, absorb atoms, etc. something like not the same kind of atom cannot be used.

by the way you misunderstood what I said "also, did you just say that there is no such word as "limited" in vsb?" i said absorption is not limited in zeref character's profile, i think you have too low iq to even understand that.

and as a result zeref can easily defeat goku. there can't be a conversation like it's not the same kind of atom because such inverse things can be used. example itachi and how is it not valid? Is it not valid for mavis to absorb infinite magic power?

 

[chosen]

It’s a Sunday afternoon but all y’all are sat inside in your parents’ basement meatriding Goku while high on cope or needlessly wanking Zeref to match the other side’s illiteracy. Go outside and touch grass ffs.

Bro didn't hold back god damn LMAO

 

[Zeinx1]

This is true. Zeref absorbing Ethernano isn’t really combat applicable, it’s just how he restores his magic

That's not what I meant, he sucked Mavis.

 

[Zeinx1]

In any case, there is no point in discussing this, as wincon we have already put forward the death manip.

 

[CloverDragon03]

That's not what I meant, he sucked Mavis.

There were like, several better ways you could’ve phrased this…

He absorbed Fairy Heart’s magic, yes. Nothing about atoms or anything of the sort

 

[AnonymousBlank]

There were like, several better ways you could’ve phrased this…

He absorbed Fairy Heart’s magic, yes. Nothing about atoms or anything of the sort

No no. He fumbled with his Zeref takes but this phrasing was perfect

 

[CloverDragon03]

No no. He fumbled with his Zeref takes but this phrasing was perfect

Ain’t no wayyyyy

 

[Zeinx1]

It’s a Sunday afternoon but all y’all are sat inside in your parents’ basement meatriding Goku while high on cope or needlessly wanking Zeref to match the other side’s illiteracy. Go outside and touch grass ffs.

I agree I will do it

 

[Zeinx1]

There were like, several better ways you could’ve phrased this…

He absorbed Fairy Heart’s magic, yes. Nothing about atoms or anything of the sort

A little wank... anyway, in short, I think zeref can absorb goku.

But it doesn't need to be registered as a wincon, I think death manip is enough.

 

[LordGinSama]

First of all, as I told you my friend, if I wank as much as you say, why don't you debunk me in a way that I can't answer?

I'm not gonna debunk something that everyone can see the issue with.

I think it's a compliment to me and an insult to yourself. Because if I can go this far even though I don't wank, then I'm a very good wanker right?

I find it hilarious with each comment you make you manage to make yourself look even worse.

Anyway, let me explain it to you properly. Yes, I called you disabled because you can read the parts that are needed there.

Which is a rule violation you ignorant dunce.

zeref can be used to absorb atoms, absorb atoms, etc. something like not the same kind of atom cannot be used.

Zeinx the only person here that's incapable of basic comprehension is you. Zeref cannot absorb matter from his opponents, that's not how that works. SBA doesn't turn Goku's cells, atoms and such into magical particles I.E Etherano. Itachi is assumed to use Genjutsu on others via verse equalization. In this case verse equalization wouldn't mean that Goku is now suddenly made of Etheranos. Zeref can absorb Etheranos and only Etheranos.

by the way you misunderstood what I said "also, did you just say that there is no such word as "limited" in vsb?" i said absorption is not limited in zeref character's profile, i think you have too low iq to even understand that.

It doesn't have to be limited for it not to be combat applicable. Zeref's Absorbtion has never done what your talking about.

and as a result zeref can easily defeat goku. there can't be a conversation like it's not the same kind of atom because such inverse things can be used. example itachi and how is it not valid? Is it not valid for mavis to absorb infinite magic power?

....... I'm beginning to question how you managed to make it out the womb without getting yourself lost. My guy, for the last bloody time this isn't how it works. Itachi can use Genjutsu on others because of verse equalization. Learn the difference instead of repeating the same brainless shit as if it's an actual argument.


Seriously do better.

 

[LordGinSama]

That's not what I meant, he sucked Mavis.

Damn didn't know Zeref was into that. Not judging but damn that's nasty.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

400 years of depression will do that to bro

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Baran stop acting like a fvcking cornball go outside and touch some grass, terminally online discord debater head ahh