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King of Chaos 4-A Upgrade

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Having infinite stamina/magic/mana/whatever does not mean that the user of the magic is channeling the same amount of power in their attacks as they did with their creation, it simply means that their energy supply is inexhaustible. It must be proved that the user's attacks are channeling the same amount of energy in the attacks they perform as their creation, as I keep reiterating.

And considering the one fight Arthur engaged in after Camelot's creation was one he seemingly did not take very seriously at all (he barely did anything besides a few attacks and then inevitably got smacked a bit by Lancelot), there isn't sufficient proof that Arthur met this requirement for the feat to scale.
 
UES is not the same as “all attacks scale to punches”. You can have UES that also incorporate amped attacks. So no, the wiki does not say “UES = everything scales to punches”. Hell, there are blatant amps in NNT too, so that much should be exceedingly obvious.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
UES is not the same as “all attacks scale to punches”. You can have UES that also incorporate amped attacks. So no, the wiki does not say “UES = everything scales to punches”. Hell, there are blatant amps in NNT too, so that much should be exceedingly obvious.
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Yet, as I explained this morning, doesn't it still scale to their attacks because it was created immediately after Chaos got its power?
 
And I have an idea to scale to the attacking forces, even if you don't agree, it has been mentioned many times here and here that the 4KOA will destroy Camelot created by Arthur. Assuming that they would have to fight Arthur to destroy it, it might actually make sense.
 
thetechmaster36 said:
Unfortunately, that is still not enough to fully scale Arthur to the tier of his creation; you need to prove that Arthur is using the same amount of energy in his attacks as he did when he was creating Camelot, as per the Creation Rules of the site.
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I don't know much about UES, but when I look at the UES page in VS Wars, I see this example. This seems like a similar situation to the issue mentioned in the OP. If there is UES in the universe and you create a fireball the size of a building, you will scale to a building level attack power and durability. This is a similar situation to our topic, Arthur creates a multi-solar system level dimension and in this case Ap and Durability can be scaled to multi-solar system. Also, on the same page, as here, it is stated that if there is UES in the universe, feat will generally be scaled linearly to physical statistics. I am saying again, I don't know much about UES, I may be wrong. I'm just stating my opinions.
 
MeliodasDeUzyy said:
@Arc7Kuroi Hi, I believe I've found a new time slot. Let's get started.

Firstly, we know that all of Camelot was destroyed by the Demon King's attack 16 years ago (not counting the time jump).

It is said here that after Camelot in Britain was destroyed 16 years ago, Arthur and the others disappeared, and even though Donny says that Camelot is gone, Sin/Lancelot says that it still exists, it's just not a place you can enter normally.

An argument in support of this is that in the years when the demon invasion was still not over, that is, right after the Demon King died, we see an attack on a village. A man and his dead daughter, Arthur tells this man that if he comes with him, he will see his daughter again, and this is true. Arthur shows illusions to the people he's tricked into Camelot. Here and here. And this proves that Camelot happened 16 years ago, right after Chaos took power.

The fact that Camelot happened before Tristan was even born supports what they say. So we can count the creation time right after Chaos took his power.

Finally, Arthur says that he founded this kingdom 16 years ago (right after he got his power, because he got his power 16 years ago, 18 if you count the time jump, and that doesn't change anything). He says that he founded it so that everyone can live happily ever after and that he will protect it. In short, Arthur creates this place right after he gets the power of Chaos, there are still a few scans that I still can't find, I will transfer them when I find them.
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ZawierJ said:
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This is a misinterpreting of what the UES page entails; what you are quoting does not fully correlate to the issue at hand here. I don't deny that there is a common energy system in the series. I don't deny that Arthur used his powers to create Camelot; I don't deny the possibility that Arthur could scale at some point in the future, and I definitely don't deny that this feat should be indexed on the profile in some manner. However, the core issue is entirely related to the fact that we have no proof that Arthur is using the same amount of energy in his attacks as he did when he was creating Camelot.

Simply quoting the UES page does not solve this issue; you need explicit proof that he is channeling the same amount of energy in his attacks as he did when he created Camelot. I keep saying this over and over again, yet nobody is listening to me, despite the fact that those are the rules of Creation Feats.
 
You're right, since I'm new to this, I have to accept that I need some help from some people. And I guess I also have to accept that creation, no matter how much I think it may scale in the future, I think I can profile this crt tomorrow.
 
MeliodasDeUzyy said:
You're right, since I'm new to this, I have to accept that I need some help from some people. And I guess I also have to accept that creation, no matter how much I think it may scale in the future, I think I can profile this crt tomorrow.
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The next 7DS CRT will be to upgrade Chaos to High 3-A
 
thetechmaster36 said:
Having infinite stamina/magic/mana/whatever does not mean that the user of the magic is channeling the same amount of power in their attacks as they did with their creation, it simply means that their energy supply is inexhaustible. It must be proved that the user's attacks are channeling the same amount of energy in the attacks they perform as their creation, as I keep reiterating.

And considering the one fight Arthur engaged in after Camelot's creation was one he seemingly did not take very seriously at all (he barely did anything besides a few attacks and then inevitably got smacked a bit by Lancelot), there isn't sufficient proof that Arthur met this requirement for the feat to scale.
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I know this might be different but Chaos Arthur destroyed cath dimension so maybe chaos characters could destroy dimensions.
 
I agree with the OP everything looks fine, there are multiple 4-A dimensions in Camelot and Arthur created in a really short timeframe We could just lowball it to 9 months for now and then find evidence for shorter timeframes.

I have very few Time i gtg to work but let s not Forget that Chaos energy Is technically able to destroy every form in the verse according to Cath and it’s the exact same energy he chanels through his attacks.
 
Makai641001 said:
I agree with the OP everything looks fine, there are multiple 4-A dimensions in Camelot and Arthur created in a really short timeframe We could just lowball it to 9 months for now and then find evidence for shorter timeframes.

I have very few Time i gtg to work but let s not Forget that Chaos energy Is technically able to destroy every form in the verse according to Cath and it’s the exact same energy he chanels through his attacks.
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Yes I agree with you, Chaos can destroy multiple dimensions. And this OP has two admin votes, when can I process the profile?
 
Makai641001 said:
I agree with the OP everything looks fine, there are multiple 4-A dimensions in Camelot and Arthur created in a really short timeframe We could just lowball it to 9 months for now and then find evidence for shorter timeframes.

I have very few Time i gtg to work but let s not Forget that Chaos energy Is technically able to destroy every form in the verse according to Cath and it’s the exact same energy he chanels through his attacks.
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I already find the shorter timeline like 1-2 weeks.
 
MeliodasDeUzyy said:
2 admins are enough for this crt.
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I know, this crt is not big because it only scales to one character. Given that there are those who disagree on this crt, we can anticipate by calling 1/2 staff again. I'm afraid there will be some disagreements, maybe we can discuss it a bit more.

This is just my suggestion, the best choice is yours. So it's up to you.
 
Faa_Tzy said:
I know, this crt is not big because it only scales to one character. Given that there are those who disagree on this crt, we can anticipate by calling 1/2 staff again. I'm afraid there will be some disagreements, maybe we can discuss it a bit more.

This is just my suggestion, the best choice is yours. So it's up to you.
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You are right, even now there are a few people who do not accept it.
 
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