ShionAH
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10 people disagree with you so much that they actually think Krillin wins, If it was a "stomp" then I believe the DB fans would have understood it.
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Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)
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Dragon Ball fans in particular are veeeeeeery stubborn over stuff, there's a reason why the DB verse has the most discussion rules in all the wiki.
Plus my argument does not change at all, given all of their argument was "but why would Sans dodge it?" when regular Ki Blasts are literally on same tier of UT fodder monsters about complexity.
ShionAH
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Both these characters had wincons and had arguements on their own even having 10 votes and being an extremely close battle, the other matches were also close (Goku one took 2 threads and Frieza one is 10 pages)
I dont think it should be removed and now I shall wait for staff to decide.
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How is it exactly close? None of Krillin's attacks are something that isn't already shown before in UT, plus, again, those having 10+ votes each essentially does not matter when the thing was mostly likely done to start a flame with the DB fanbase, which, again, on this website is notable for being veeeery stubborn.
Fezzih_007
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The only i agree os Cell, because the other three they are still kinda fair.
Well, i could argue that because the Op restricted the super sayian form for Goku, the Sans vs Goku should be removed since It breaks one of the rules, but is fine since i don't think It changes the result.
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They're literally not. You have to say more than just "I think they're still fair" because how the DB characters open the fight is definitely death against Sans.
Fezzih_007
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Really? Tch ok, i gonna wash the dishes and respond to your arguments then.
ExSENNA
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Bumping this again.
Fezzih_007
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Assumption, there's zero prove of that
So? Don't see the problem of a fight taking that long, that just they did have a heated debate.
That also don't mean anything, just because they all similar that don't mean they are invalid.
Considering is Golden Freeza he not gonna understamate Sans, since he start on the form that he hates to use against weaker opponents, so is way more likely from him to start using AoE attacks If his first Death beam misses. Your point about Sans PL being weak don't really matter, because he is in the form that he goes all out.
As Shion said, that is extremely close.
The opponent, who he can sense is not that strong, and by SBA know that is very dangerous.
There's actually zero reason from him to treat this casually since his fighting a opponent that is cleary evil and is a monster.
There's not a very good point anyway, since this is still not a stomp anyway because of the reason.
Already explain on the thread why that's not the case, but whatever.
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You're essentially telling me that he wouldn't perceive his PL. If you wanted to say that in this he starts as bloodlusted, then that's another thing.
Sans is absolutely not evil wtf. Monsters in UT are literally anything but evil, he is fighting against Chara who is actually the evil one there (as in UT in the Genocide route the player is a psycho maniac who exterminates all the monsters just for fun).
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Don't know if I asked about this already but Baryon Mode Naruto is no longer 5-A. Also this matchup was still kind of a stomp thread anyway since Goku's stronger, more skilled and isn't on a time limit for his lifespan
AceOfSpaces3709
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I removed it as both profiles are unlocked
Wind God vs Space Alien
Fujin vs Gravattack Speed equal Battlefield: Mustafar (Star Wars) Initial Distance: 25 meters Fujin: Gravattack: 7 (@DontTalkDT, @EliminatorVenom, @Popted2, @Greenshifter, @FluffyCreatureZ, @Spinoirr, @Pokemonfan807) Inconclusive:vsbattles.com
Gravattack went from High 8-C to 7-A. Should this be removed?
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Removed.
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Removed.
ExSENNA
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Please also remove these two I posted and quoted earlier, as I said earlier Yhwach does not have 4D hax anymore to stand a chance (He didn't stood much of a chance in the first place but I digress)
https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-fate-of-the-world-neo-metal-sonic-vs-yhwach-13-8-1.149445/
https://vsbattles.com/threads/151468
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These four too please.
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BumpThe star of the ring! Mario vs Sonic in their base (Concluded)
Mario in his base Key 3C Sonic in his Morden Key Likely 4A, Likely 3C with phantom attack 9.02 Zettafoe + 1.2x with Phantom Attack vs Baseline 3C (I think) No prior knowledge Speed is equal Both have optimal equipment rest are sba first thread so uh yeah...
Modern Sonic is now Low 2-C, meaning he one shots Mario here
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I removed these. Note that Frieza's match was already removed from Frieza's profile. If people thought those matches were valid, I suggest remaking them but i did find the odd honestly. If other staff thought they were ok for good reason then they can be added back.
I thought that sonic match was a hax fight?
GlaceonGamez471
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After skimming it, yeah, the match pretty much boiled down to hax thanks to both sides having all equipment. Sonic having a one-shot AP advantage doesn't change too much there from what I can tell.
Fezzih_007
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This fight should be removed from Saber and Ji profile, the reason being servants 4D invulnerability, at the point of the match she already had passive 4D powernull so Ji only could rely in normal physical attacks but now not even that work.
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UT vs Sonic fights need to be removed:
- Chara vs Sage: The former got Erasure on a Information Type 2 level, which Sage does not resist and is what Chara leads with IC.
- Asriel vs Super Sonic: I dunno if Asriel still loses but Sonic does not resist Info Type 2, which is kinda of notable and just changes considerably the fight's mechanics.
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Super Sonic/the emeralds is in the middle of a crt that can give him type 2 information manipulation and resistance to it (he has two staff agreements at the moment)
So maybe it's better to wait for that crt.
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It was already accepted and is in the process of being applied
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Who was the third one who accepted? Clover's vote does not count.
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I don't see a mention of Sage getting a resistance in the blog though.
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The mech she is in in the match would via scaling to other chaos emerald users who resist such aplications, it is the same reason supreme has resistance to dream and conceptual stuff on its page
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Infinity Ultron (MCU) vs Darkrai (Pokemon) - 7/0/0 (Grace)
I wanted to make a Infinity Ultron vs Pokemon match-up, but obviously characters like Arceus, Palkia, Dialga and Giratina completely stomps him, so maybe this battle can be more interesting. Infinity Ultron have all of the Infinity Stones. Darkrai's 2-A key is used. SBA is applied and speed...
Ultron isn't 2-A anymore
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I removed the match from both profiles.Infinity Ultron (MCU) vs Darkrai (Pokemon) - 7/0/0 (Grace)
I wanted to make a Infinity Ultron vs Pokemon match-up, but obviously characters like Arceus, Palkia, Dialga and Giratina completely stomps him, so maybe this battle can be more interesting. Infinity Ultron have all of the Infinity Stones. Darkrai's 2-A key is used. SBA is applied and speed...
Ultron isn't 2-A anymore
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Thank you
AceOfSpaces3709
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Speedwagon VS Dan Hibiki needs to be removed as Dan no longer scales to baseline 9-B (which is also Speedwagon's AP) and currently scales to 779,689 Joules, making this an AP stomp.
I've removed the match from Speedwagon's Profile but Dan's is locked
Bump
I've removed the match from Speedwagon's Profile but Dan's is locked
Bump
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Heavy vs Peter Griffin: the re-re-match (Grace)
Both are 9-A Battle takes place outside of the Simpsons' house Both are a few meters apart Heavy is in his second key, and only has his melee weapons and upgrades/canteens Peter's death powers are restricted, and is unequipped Speed equalized Heavy scales to 0.0658 tons Peter scales to 0.169...
Should this be removed? It says Peter's standard equipment was restricted and I don't know if matches like that can be added. The reason I'm asking is because even though his equipment was restricted, he still won
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Standard equipment can be restricted.Heavy vs Peter Griffin: the re-re-match (Grace)
Both are 9-A Battle takes place outside of the Simpsons' house Both are a few meters apart Heavy is in his second key, and only has his melee weapons and upgrades/canteens Peter's death powers are restricted, and is unequipped Speed equalized Heavy scales to 0.0658 tons Peter scales to 0.169...
Should this be removed? It says Peter's standard equipment was restricted and I don't know if matches like that can be added. The reason I'm asking is because even though his equipment was restricted, he still won
Done.
RoggerReggor
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I request this matchup to be removed from both the profiles of Ayanokouji Kiyotaka and Manjiro Sano.
Reasons:
1. The AP stomp: Manjiro had 148 kJ AP and Ayanokouji had 8.13976176 kJ Durability. Manjiro has 18.1823503x advantage, which is 2.42431337x the AP required to one-shot.
2. The Speed development: Manjiro has higher attack speed than Ayanokouji, which is a problem since all Ayanokouji can do is use his defending skills or get one-shot.
Thanks in advance.
Reasons:
1. The AP stomp: Manjiro had 148 kJ AP and Ayanokouji had 8.13976176 kJ Durability. Manjiro has 18.1823503x advantage, which is 2.42431337x the AP required to one-shot.
2. The Speed development: Manjiro has higher attack speed than Ayanokouji, which is a problem since all Ayanokouji can do is use his defending skills or get one-shot.
Thanks in advance.
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Son Goku vs Simon the Digger
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) [Battle of Gods Saga] vs Simon the Digger (Episodes 17-26) Rules: Speed Equalized Takes Place around Earth Goku starts in Super Saiyan (This is Goku at the point where the power of SSJG was absorbed into his base form) Simon is in Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann A...
I'm unsure if this match should be removed or not. Both characters were 3-A, but Goku's been upgraded to 2-C
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Gone.Son Goku vs Simon the Digger
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) [Battle of Gods Saga] vs Simon the Digger (Episodes 17-26) Rules: Speed Equalized Takes Place around Earth Goku starts in Super Saiyan (This is Goku at the point where the power of SSJG was absorbed into his base form) Simon is in Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann A...
I'm unsure if this match should be removed or not. Both characters were 3-A, but Goku's been upgraded to 2-C
You can handle it given that both of their profiles are unlocked and this thread is meant for locked profiles.
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