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You know that this thread is to remove wrong stuff, yes? I don't see why this should matter.
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You know that this thread is to remove wrong stuff, yes? I don't see why this should matter.
10 people disagree with you so much that they actually think Krillin wins, If it was a "stomp" then I believe the DB fans would have understood it.You know that this thread is to remove wrong stuff, yes? I don't see why this should matter.
Dragon Ball fans in particular are veeeeeeery stubborn over stuff, there's a reason why the DB verse has the most discussion rules in all the wiki.10 people disagree with you so much that they actually think Krillin wins, If it was a "stomp" then I believe the DB fans would have understood it.
Both these characters had wincons and had arguements on their own even having 10 votes and being an extremely close battle, the other matches were also close (Goku one took 2 threads and Frieza one is 10 pages)Dragon Ball fans in particular are veeeeeeery stubborn over stuff, there's a reason why the DB verse has the most discussion rules in all the wiki.
Plus my argument does not change at all, given all of their argument was "but why would Sans dodge it?" when regular Ki Blasts are literally on same tier of UT fodder monsters about complexity.
How is it exactly close? None of Krillin's attacks are something that isn't already shown before in UT, plus, again, those having 10+ votes each essentially does not matter when the thing was mostly likely done to start a flame with the DB fanbase, which, again, on this website is notable for being veeeery stubborn.Both these characters had wincons and had arguements on their own even having 10 votes and being an extremely close battle, the other matches were also close (Goku one took 2 threads and Frieza one is 10 pages)
The only i agree os Cell, because the other three they are still kinda fair.Snip
They're literally not. You have to say more than just "I think they're still fair" because how the DB characters open the fight is definitely death against Sans.The only i agree os Cell, because the other three they are still kinda fair.
Really? Tch ok, i gonna wash the dishes and respond to your arguments then.They're literally not. You have to say more than just "I think they're still fair" because how the DB characters open the fight is definitely death against Sans.
Bumping this again.Bumping this.
Also please remove this as well:https://vsbattles.com/threads/doctor-vs-anti-spiral.20830/
Reason: Very outdated from 2018, both verses were heavily revised since then, and this thread itself doesn't even give a wincon for Antispiral, it's a FRA train
Assumption, there's zero prove of that
- They're basically a flamebait to generate hate between UT and DB fanbases.
So? Don't see the problem of a fight taking that long, that just they did have a heated debate.
- They all end up being 3-4 pages long minimum because of this.
That also don't mean anything, just because they all similar that don't mean they are invalid.
- The mechanics of the fights are basically all the same.
Considering is Golden Freeza he not gonna understamate Sans, since he start on the form that he hates to use against weaker opponents, so is way more likely from him to start using AoE attacks If his first Death beam misses. Your point about Sans PL being weak don't really matter, because he is in the form that he goes all out.I don't understand why this thing is 10 pages long, Sans basically stomps as Frieza will begin to spam death beams, Sans dodges and blasts away his SOUL with KR while Frieza makes the fatal error of underestimating Sans all the time due to his puny PL compared to his.
who will take the fight casually given Goku's nature to always test the opponent before going full out, meaning that Sans has more than a chance to destroy his SOUL.
Already explain on the thread why that's not the case, but whatever.Krillin: Literally the same as Frieza. Krillin's opening moves are mostly H2H or Regular Ki blasts, both of which are easily dodgeable from Sans and allow him to blast his soul to oblivion.
You're essentially telling me that he wouldn't perceive his PL. If you wanted to say that in this he starts as bloodlusted, then that's another thing.Considering is Golden Freeza he not gonna understamate Sans, since he start on the form that he hates to use against weaker opponents, so is way more likely from him to start using AoE attacks If his first Death beam misses. Your point about Sans PL being weak don't really matter, because he is in the form that he goes all out.
Sans is absolutely not evil wtf. Monsters in UT are literally anything but evil, he is fighting against Chara who is actually the evil one there (as in UT in the Genocide route the player is a psycho maniac who exterminates all the monsters just for fun).The opponent, who he can sense is not that strong, and by SBA know that is very dangerous.
There's actually zero reason from him to treat this casually since his fighting a opponent that is cleary evil and is a monster.
There's not a very good point anyway, since this is still not a stomp anyway because of the reason.
I removed it as both profiles are unlockedWind God vs Space Alien
Fujin vs Gravattack Speed equal Battlefield: Mustafar (Star Wars) Initial Distance: 25 meters Fujin: Gravattack: 7 (@DontTalkDT, @EliminatorVenom, @Popted2, @Greenshifter, @FluffyCreatureZ, @Spinoirr, @Pokemonfan807) Inconclusive:vsbattles.com
Gravattack went from High 8-C to 7-A. Should this be removed?
Removed.
Don't know if I asked about this already but Baryon Mode Naruto is no longer 5-A. Also this matchup was still kind of a stomp thread anyway since Goku's stronger, more skilled and isn't on a time limit for his lifespan
Removed.Bumping this.
Also please remove this as well:https://vsbattles.com/threads/doctor-vs-anti-spiral.20830/
Reason: Very outdated from 2018, both verses were heavily revised since then, and this thread itself doesn't even give a wincon for Antispiral, it's a FRA train
Please also remove these two I posted and quoted earlier, as I said earlier Yhwach does not have 4D hax anymore to stand a chance (He didn't stood much of a chance in the first place but I digress)Removed.
Removed.
These four too please.There's currently a problem with Sans' matchups right now, those being the ones involving Dragon Ball characters, as almost all they all have in common 3 things:
But let's go over said matches, and will be only the victories/incons as the loss against Broly and the incon with Zeno are fair.
- They're basically a flamebait to generate hate between UT and DB fanbases.
- They all end up being 3-4 pages long minimum because of this.
- The mechanics of the fights are basically all the same.
Only one that is fair among his victories is the Goku Black one as in this case Sans is facing an actual bloodlusted opponent, given that Black always goes for the kill against anyone who is not a deity.
- Golden Frieza: I don't understand why this thing is 10 pages long, Sans basically stomps as Frieza will begin to spam death beams, Sans dodges and blasts away his SOUL with KR while Frieza makes the fatal error of underestimating Sans all the time due to his puny PL compared to his.
- Cell: The thing is basically the same as Frieza but worse. Cell won't attack first given he's showcased to not really taking seriously 9-B characters like Mr. Satan, plus the distance being just 10 meters makes me think this is a spite thread.
- DBS Anime Goku: Only way this can be fair is using UI/MUI, as the version OP used is just the U6 Arc Goku, who will take the fight casually given Goku's nature to always test the opponent before going full out, meaning that Sans has more than a chance to destroy his SOUL.
- Krillin: Literally the same as Frieza. Krillin's opening moves are mostly H2H or Regular Ki blasts, both of which are easily dodgeable from Sans and allow him to blast his soul to oblivion.
I am saying this as right now there's literally a fight between Sans and Orange Piccolo and this one is getting into another heated thread due to the matchup being basically a flamebait.
Removed.Please also remove these two I posted and quoted earlier, as I said earlier Yhwach does not have 4D hax anymore to stand a chance (He didn't stood much of a chance in the first place but I digress)
https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-fate-of-the-world-neo-metal-sonic-vs-yhwach-13-8-1.149445/
https://vsbattles.com/threads/151468
I got you, gotta charge my phone but I'll get them.These four too please.
BumpThe star of the ring! Mario vs Sonic in their base (Concluded)
Mario in his base Key 3C Sonic in his Morden Key Likely 4A, Likely 3C with phantom attack 9.02 Zettafoe + 1.2x with Phantom Attack vs Baseline 3C (I think) No prior knowledge Speed is equal Both have optimal equipment rest are sba first thread so uh yeah...vsbattles.com
Modern Sonic is now Low 2-C, meaning he one shots Mario here
I removed these. Note that Frieza's match was already removed from Frieza's profile. If people thought those matches were valid, I suggest remaking them but i did find the odd honestly. If other staff thought they were ok for good reason then they can be added back.There's currently a problem with Sans' matchups right now, those being the ones involving Dragon Ball characters, as almost all they all have in common 3 things:
But let's go over said matches, and will be only the victories/incons as the loss against Broly and the incon with Zeno are fair.
- They're basically a flamebait to generate hate between UT and DB fanbases.
- They all end up being 3-4 pages long minimum because of this.
- The mechanics of the fights are basically all the same.
Only one that is fair among his victories is the Goku Black one as in this case Sans is facing an actual bloodlusted opponent, given that Black always goes for the kill against anyone who is not a deity.
- Golden Frieza: I don't understand why this thing is 10 pages long, Sans basically stomps as Frieza will begin to spam death beams, Sans dodges and blasts away his SOUL with KR while Frieza makes the fatal error of underestimating Sans all the time due to his puny PL compared to his.
- Cell: The thing is basically the same as Frieza but worse. Cell won't attack first given he's showcased to not really taking seriously 9-B characters like Mr. Satan, plus the distance being just 10 meters makes me think this is a spite thread.
- DBS Anime Goku: Only way this can be fair is using UI/MUI, as the version OP used is just the U6 Arc Goku, who will take the fight casually given Goku's nature to always test the opponent before going full out, meaning that Sans has more than a chance to destroy his SOUL.
- Krillin: Literally the same as Frieza. Krillin's opening moves are mostly H2H or Regular Ki blasts, both of which are easily dodgeable from Sans and allow him to blast his soul to oblivion.
I am saying this as right now there's literally a fight between Sans and Orange Piccolo and this one is getting into another heated thread due to the matchup being basically a flamebait.
I thought that sonic match was a hax fight?Bump
After skimming it, yeah, the match pretty much boiled down to hax thanks to both sides having all equipment. Sonic having a one-shot AP advantage doesn't change too much there from what I can tell.I thought that sonic match was a hax fight?
Ok.If people thought those matches were valid, I suggest remaking them
Super Sonic/the emeralds is in the middle of a crt that can give him type 2 information manipulation and resistance to it (he has two staff agreements at the moment)UT vs Sonic fights need to be removed:
- Chara vs Sage: The former got Erasure on a Information Type 2 level, which Sage does not resist and is what Chara leads with IC.
- Asriel vs Super Sonic: I dunno if Asriel still loses but Sonic does not resist Info Type 2, which is kinda of notable and just changes considerably the fight's mechanics.
UT vs Sonic fights need to be removed:
- Chara vs Sage: The former got Erasure on a Information Type 2 level, which Sage does not resist and is what Chara leads with IC.
Due to recent revisions both would resist it
- Asriel vs Super Sonic: I dunno if Asriel still loses but Sonic does not resist Info Type 2, which is kinda of notable and just changes considerably the fight's mechanics.
It was already accepted and is in the process of being appliedSuper Sonic/the emeralds is in the middle of a crt that can give him type 2 information manipulation and resistance to it (he has two staff agreements at the moment)
So maybe it's better to wait for that crt.
Who was the third one who accepted? Clover's vote does not count.It was already accepted and is in the process of being applied
I don't see a mention of Sage getting a resistance in the blog though.Due to recent revisions both would resist it
The mech she is in in the match would via scaling to other chaos emerald users who resist such aplications, it is the same reason supreme has resistance to dream and conceptual stuff on its pageI don't see a mention of Sage getting a resistance in the blog though.
I removed the match from both profiles.Infinity Ultron (MCU) vs Darkrai (Pokemon) - 7/0/0 (Grace)
I wanted to make a Infinity Ultron vs Pokemon match-up, but obviously characters like Arceus, Palkia, Dialga and Giratina completely stomps him, so maybe this battle can be more interesting. Infinity Ultron have all of the Infinity Stones. Darkrai's 2-A key is used. SBA is applied and speed...vsbattles.com
Ultron isn't 2-A anymore
Thank youI removed the match from both profiles.
Standard equipment can be restricted.Heavy vs Peter Griffin: the re-re-match (Grace)
Both are 9-A Battle takes place outside of the Simpsons' house Both are a few meters apart Heavy is in his second key, and only has his melee weapons and upgrades/canteens Peter's death powers are restricted, and is unequipped Speed equalized Heavy scales to 0.0658 tons Peter scales to 0.169...vsbattles.com
Should this be removed? It says Peter's standard equipment was restricted and I don't know if matches like that can be added. The reason I'm asking is because even though his equipment was restricted, he still won
Done.Speedwagon VS Dan Hibiki needs to be removed as Dan no longer scales to baseline 9-B (which is also Speedwagon's AP) and currently scales to 779,689 Joules, making this an AP stomp.
I've removed the match from Speedwagon's Profile but Dan's is locked
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