Sans vs Golden Frieza

[Pizzabox492]

Sans fights Golden Frieza

Speed is equalized

Both in character

9-A vs Low 2-C

Fight takes place in Last Corridor

Starting distance is 1m

 

[ImmortalDread]

is Sans smurf?

 

[Dragonite007]

is Sans smurf?

He has soul hax, which is dura neg

 

[ImmortalDread]

Did it show to neg low 2-C attacks?

 

[Dragonite007]

Did it show to neg low 2-C attacks?

No, Frieza snezze and Sans die

 

[TheGatememer]

Frieza points, and shoots a death beam, gg

 

[ImmortalDread]

So he is not smurf, and neither his soul hax can do a thing, is OP aware that this is a spite match?

 

[TheGatememer]

Frieza doesn’t resist soul hax, so it’s not spite. He’s not physically 4D

 

[ImmortalDread]

Again, how strong is he physically? 9-A??

 

[TheGatememer]

It doesn’t really matter, since he dies in a single hit anyways.

 

[Dragonite007]

Again, how strong is he physically? 9-A??

Sans is 10-B physically

 

[ImmortalDread]

I am talking about Frieza

 

[ImmortalDread]

It doesn’t really matter, since he dies in a single hit anyways.

So I was not wrong either, it was spite match

 

[TheGatememer]

So I was not wrong either, it was spite match

uh no, since Frieza doesn’t resist soul hax, and he’s not physically 4D

 

[Dragonite007]

I am talking about Frieza

Frieza is Low 2-C physically

 

[ImmortalDread]

Frieza is Low 2-C physically

So what prevents Frieza to one shot him? 3D soul hax that acts as dura neg wont do a thing

 

[Dragonite007]

So what prevents Frieza to one shot him? 3D soul hax that acts as dura neg wont do a thing

Nothing, Frieza just kill sans with a hit

 

[TheGatememer]

So what prevents Frieza to one shot him? 3D soul hax that acts as dura neg wont do a thing

Frieza isn’t 4D, and he doesn’t resist soul hax. So it would work on him.

doesn’t stop Frieza from just pointing though

 

[ImmortalDread]

This is not even the argument, u mentioned before his soul hax acts as dura neg, dura neg wont work on low 2-C's durability since it is not smurf.
I don't even see any wincons from that fodder. this is spite match

 

[TheGatememer]

This is not even the argument, u mentioned before his soul hax acts as dura neg, dura neg wont work on low 2-C's durability since it is not smurf.
I don't even see any wincons from that fodder. this is spite match

That’s not how durability negation works.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Ahh? Prove me that his dura neg works on 4D durability.

 

[TheGatememer]

...It's called Durability Negation for a reason. Frieza having Low 2-C durability is irrelevant, since Sans attacks his soul.

 

[thetechmaster36]

Dura neg does not work like that, tf??? If the character has 4D durability but is 3D by nature, they can absolutely be affected by dura neg via soul hax

The only way it wouldn't work is if the character was 4D by nature, but Frieza is not that, ergo he is affected by the dura neg

 

[ImmortalDread]

Is this not now NLF....?

 

[TheGatememer]

Soul Hax has nothing to do with durability, so no.

 

[thetechmaster36]

Lemme put it this way:

3D Sans exists. 3D Frieza also exists. Sans' soul hax is 3D because it affects the souls of other 3D characters. 3D Frieza does not have resistance to soul hax. 3D soul hax dura negs Frieza.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Mate, he has soul manipulation that acts as dura neg, now prove me that he has shown to neg dura at low 2-C level.
Don't mix both abilities. He did not gain dura neg just because he has soul hax, he gains it because it acts as like that.

It should not be assumed that the above listed abilities automatically grant durability negation unless they have been shown to work as such in-verse.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Welp, in that case.... The OP should change Frieza to his non-Low 2-C keys or smth.

 

[thetechmaster36]

The level of durability literally doesn't matter if the character is still 3D by nature, you are not understanding how dura neg works.

Character is Outerversal but 3D in nature? Whoops, sorry, dura neg on a 3D level still works.

Make a thread about it if you need to, but until then, dura neg works exactly as it's entailed

 

[TheGatememer]

can bypass conventional durability via SOUL Magic

Literally on Sans' profile.

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Frieza isn't ontologically 4D, thus I don't see why Sans' durability negation wouldn't work on him.

What does each character start with?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Frieza isn't ontologically 4D, thus I don't see why Sans' durability negation wouldn't work on him.

What does each character start with?

You mean, what does the character do when he gets low 2-C attacks?

 

[TartaChocholate]

Frieza usually lets out a loud "Ohohohoh!" and then shoot a Death Beam.

 

[ImmortalDread]

bro, this is spite. Closure of thread? Yes no?

 

[Theglassman12]

@ImmortalDread that’s not how durability negation or hax works dude, Frieza has no feats of resisting soul hax nor is he a higher dimensional being, so any and all hax that he doesn’t resist is fair game to use against him, which Sans has thanks to attacking his Soul. Being physically Low 2-C just makes him strong and can oneshot Sans, but Sans can just do the same thing with hax, so this fight boils down to who hits first.

 

[Quantu]

Does Sans start of with Soul hax? If so, this seems to be a textbook inconclusive.

 

[Dragonite007]

@ImmortalDread that’s not how durability negation or hax works dude, Frieza has no feats of resisting soul hax nor is he a higher dimensional being, so any and all hax that he doesn’t resist is fair game to use against him, which Sans has thanks to attacking his Soul. Being physically Low 2-C just makes him strong and can oneshot Sans, but Sans can just do the same thing with hax, so this fight boils down to who hits first.

Actually, Sans Soul hax can't one shot. There was a thread about it and it was agreed that sans soul hax is not a one shot

 

[Dragonite007]

Does Sans start of with Soul hax? If so, this seems to be a textbook inconclusive.

Frieza just can do the same thing he did to Krillin

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Ye. He also starts off with a lot of dura-neg soul-hax danmaku attacks. Additionally, due to speed equal, Frieza is at Sans' speed, however, his reactions are faster than his base-speed (to the point that Frisk/Chara can't touch him no matter how much times that they reset and can only do it when they break the rules of the game) and his Gaster Blasters are even faster than that.

Actually, Sans Soul hax can't one shot. There was a thread about it and it was agreed that sans soul hax is not a one shot

And ye. Although, in this case, Sans just need to land more than a few attacks on Frieza to screw over his soul and kill him... or just have Frieza stand-still and endure Gaster Blaster fire for a few seconds.

Frieza just can do the same thing he did to Krillin

Or he can do what he did with Nail and just stand there and take it.

 

[TheGatememer]

I'm pretty sure Frieza just points and shoots a death beam. Don't think Sans can kill Frieza quickly enough.