Top most skilled swordmans in the wiki

[Regidian]

Don't think her stuff is skill related, she has conceptual hax with her eyes. Not something she trained her ass for.

I don't talk about her eyes hax, but well shiki ryougi base is a swordmaster and saber shiki have like access of all the ability of other swordsmanship user in fate + her analysis who will just let her copy everything the guy on the list can do

 

[Regidian]

Pretty sure if Earl is here Ikki should be 1st spot easily

Well ikki vs musashi zero is old as the world.(tho most people agreed that musashi would be above because hax)

Tho she would get her beyond zero crt when i'm not lazy + other thing that need to be add

 

[PrinceofPein]

Pretty sure if Earl is here Ikki should be 1st spot easily

Yup, watching kishi no cavalry and the series is currently wanked

 

[Bernkastelll]

I'm pretty sure most of the feats are from the novel and not anime

 

[Delta333]

No where

there is nothing he cannot cut in a single slash as long as it is with a sword even phenomenons, concepts and futures e.t.c.

Is this just NPI feat?

 

[Bernkastelll]

I am not sure if stuff like conceptual manip/fate hax count as being more skilled with sword

 

[PrinceofPein]

I'm pretty sure most of the feats are from the novel and not anime

I will read the novel right after I have it already then I guess the novel is vastly different from the anime

 

[PrinceofPein]

Is this just NPI feat?

More than that he can slash your concept of living too and the likes, you can not block or dodge his sword swings, even someone who can see infinite possibilities said there is no future where the sword did not hit her.

 

[Delta333]

More than that he can slash your concept of living too and the likes, you can not block or dodge his sword swings, even someone who can see infinite possibilities said there is no future where the sword did not hit her.

well that's kinda haxxy instead

 

[Poppio2]

Can we use characters that are not on the wiki too or do they have to be on the wiki to verify their feats?

 

[PrinceofPein]

well that's kinda haxxy instead

Yup but aside things that happens as a result.of his sword techs he is pretty much like the best

 

[Regidian]

More than that he can slash your concept of living too and the likes, you can not block or dodge his sword swings, even someone who can see infinite possibilities said there is no future where the sword did not hit her.

The infinite futur is not that good tho.

Musashi had that when battlebwith yagyu and she just created an entirely new possibility

 

[PrinceofPein]

The infinite futur is not that good tho.

Musashi had that when battlebwith yagyu and she just created an entirely new possibility

attack that becomes an absolute truth, even Shiori couldn’t find through her infinite possibilities a way to escape it and thus had to endure it through her defense as a Gudou God.

Idea of slashing itself, absolute severance whether it was Tenmas themselves, or even visions of the future

This is shiori and no matter the possibilities she summoned sh was cut in it

(Her distortion allows her to summon possibilities and swap her position with them)

 

[SemiRaedi]

Can someone with knowledge on the characters give what they believe to be the correct order of where the characters are to be arranged?

As well as add the additional characters mentioned above

 

[Regidian]

attack that becomes an absolute truth, even Shiori couldn’t find through her infinite possibilities a way to escape it and thus had to endure it through her defense as a Gudou God.

Idea of slashing itself, absolute severance whether it was Tenmas themselves, or even visions of the future

This is shiori and no matter the possibilities she summoned sh was cut in it

It change nothing in what i have tell? Musashi can fight with someone like Mibu

Kengou Battou: Ishana-Daitenshou: Following her fight with Saber Emperio, she fully mastered her technique. She is now no longer limited to choosing existing possibilities. She can now create new ones entirely, and find an answer that lies outside the bounds of possibility.

Musashi have her heavenly eyes who can see and choose through infinite possibilities. When she battle Yagyu she couldn't find in any of the infinite possibilities a possibility to battle him.


Suigetsu revolves around the concept of calm water that reflects and mirrors anything. As such, a swordsman that has reached Suigetsu is able to read and react to any opponent like water that reflects and mirrors anything. Using this technique, he is capable of accounting for all possible outcomes, and staying a step ahead of all of them. It is so absolute that Musashi had to create a completely new possibility to manage to bypass this technique.


And for atk being the "absolute truth" musashi have the same way. Her blade just shave down all infinite possibility to the only she created. It's a technique that allow her tu cut low 1-C thing

Her blade has become one that shaves down all of existence to a single possibility. This is the true form of Zero, a technique designed to create an inescapable end, even against the gods or The Buddha.

 

[Dir333]

And White Arie from TOG should take number 2 on that list.

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Isn't his swordmanship unpredictable due to tower laws not skills???

 

[Dir333]

Shin regalia should have a spot in top 5

 

[PrinceofPein]

It change nothing in what i have tell? Musashi can fight with someone like Mibu

Kengou Battou: Ishana-Daitenshou: Following her fight with Saber Emperio, she fully mastered her technique. She is now no longer limited to choosing existing possibilities. She can now create new ones entirely, and find an answer that lies outside the bounds of possibility.

Musashi have her heavenly eyes who can see and choose through infinite possibilities. When she battle Yagyu she couldn't find in any of the infinite possibilities a possibility to battle him.


Suigetsu revolves around the concept of calm water that reflects and mirrors anything. As such, a swordsman that has reached Suigetsu is able to read and react to any opponent like water that reflects and mirrors anything. Using this technique, he is capable of accounting for all possible outcomes, and staying a step ahead of all of them. It is so absolute that Musashi had to create a completely new possibility to manage to bypass this technique.


And for atk being the "absolute truth" musashi have the same way. Her blade just shave down all infinite possibility to the only she created. It's a technique that allow her tu cut low 1-C thing

Her blade has become one that shaves down all of existence to a single possibility. This is the true form of Zero, a technique designed to create an inescapable end, even against the gods or The Buddha.

Dude all this are.the same, the only difference is that even as human soujiro could cut 1B and also the tenmas whose durability are 1B and also have time armour that gives them invulnerability (basically any change cannot occur to them as long as time armor is on) but he can still cut them.

Isn't his swordmanship unpredictable due to tower laws not skills???

Yes this is true forgot for a while

 

[Dereck03]

Shin Reglia for a Spot

 

[PrinceofPein]

Shin Reglia for a Spot

I checked his intelligence section and it is a bit lacking but most of the stuffs there are from his own different thoe of swords not skills

 

[Dereck03]

I checked his intelligence section and it is a bit lacking but most of the stuffs there are from his own different thoe of swords not skills

You need to be superior and be able to mastered the swords first, if not the sword simply won't allow the user to use it

 

[Delta333]

Shin is more skilled than one of the most skilled swordman of humanity

 

[Regidian]

Dude all this are.the same, the only difference is that even as human soujiro could cut 1B and also the tenmas whose durability are 1B and also have time armour that gives them invulnerability (basically any change cannot occur to them as long as time armor is on) but he can still cut them.

Yes this is true forgot for a while

Not really the same lol, mibu sword is absolute in the infinite possibilities that shiori see except that musashi can create possibility that exist outside the bound of infinite possibilities.

And the time armour is not that much too but in first i was just telling that some of the thing you tell are not enough to make him above Musashi

 

[Dir333]

You need to be superior and be able to mastered the swords first, if not the sword simply won't allow the user to use it

I have not gotten far in the maou gakuin web novel but weapon mastery doesn't really require skills

 

[Dereck03]

I have not gotten far in the maou gakuin web novel but weapon mastery doesn't really require skills

You need to be more superior to the sword itself in maou Gakuin yo able to use it... Cuz if not the sword simple won't accept the user...

 

[SemiRaedi]

Can someone with knowledge on the characters give what they believe to be the correct order of where the characters are to be arranged?

As well as add the additional characters mentioned above

^^^^^^

 

[PrinceofPein]

Not really the same lol, mibu sword is absolute in the infinite possibilities that shiori see except that musashi can create possibility that exist outside the bound of infinite possibilities.

musashi creates another possibility outside the current infinite possibilities right? so how does she deal with soujiro slashing the future itself?

And the time armour is not that much too

this is a joke right? time armour that allowed them to withstand hajun law is not that much? please dont start this

but in first i was just telling that some of the thing you tell are not enough to make him above Musashi

just one thing actually which was soujiro able to bypass someone who can jump through infinite possibilities in a single slash and you said musashi can create things outside infinite possibilities. that was all

 

[LordGinSama]

tfw Nasuverse and light novel skill nonsense is ******* wanked to hell and is rendered as fodder if we're requesting on screen feats

 

[SemiRaedi]

Bro can someone give a 1-10 list of where the current characters would be placed? I don't know anyone here besides Mihawk and Zoro so I wouldn't be able to accurately place any named character here without a reference to go by

 

[LordGinSama]

I already spoke for Mihawk and Zoro, the former should be 4th and the latter should be 5th.

 

[Regidian]

musashi creates another possibility outside the current infinite possibilities right? so how does she deal with soujiro slashing the future itself?

Don't understand what you mean yiu want soujiro to slash which futur if musashi erased all the other possibilities? Only one possibility=lead to only one futur.

this is a joke right? time armour that allowed them to withstand hajun law is not that much? please dont start this.

I mean it's just bypassing an invulnerability so yeah doesn't have anything to do with the potency of the time armour it doesn't make mibu more skilled just show he can bypass invulnerability.

just one thing actually which was soujiro able to bypass someone who can jump through infinite possibilities in a single slash and you said musashi can create things outside infinite possibilities. that was all

You don't have read all the thing in my previous comment then. Musahsi basic skill is to jump trough infinite possibilities and chose the one she decide to head her to victory...

And like all the other thing you tell muashi can do it...

 

[Regidian]

tfw Nasuverse and light novel skill nonsense is ******* wanked to hell and is rendered as fodder if we're requesting on screen feats

Mibu came from a vn too not light novel, and the screen is easy to show lol it's like directly in the material or in shimousa for musashi not that too read for you no?

 

[EliminatorVenom]

How nostalgic.

Sion Zail for whatever placement

Ah, a Knight Run character. A person of culture, I see!

I'd put Musashi from Vagabond here. There's also some book characters in my head whose details escape my mind, who surely wouldn't be here, but could deserve honorable mentions. Jaime Lannister from ASOIAF is actually a very honourable mention, Vaelin Al Sorna from Blood Song/Raven's Shadow is too. Geralt as is described on the books might be as well, although I think his is more of a tactical skillset rather than swordsmanship.

I still think that Miyamoto from Baki is more skilled than Zoro, but eh, him being in this list alone is good enough for me.

While I won't deny the skill feats displayed here by the novel characters, it really bothers me the way it's explained as it really feels like some sort of supernatural power wholly unrelated to skill, and that's when I believe things such as Super Skill actually exist. There's a step that's a bit too far.

 

[LordGinSama]

Mibu came from a vn too not light novel, and the screen is easy to show lol it's like directly in the material or in shimousa for musashi not that too read for you no?

VN's are also limited due to screen time so unfortunately that also means we don't see a lot of really impressive shit happening with our eyes.


FGO needs an anime where everything is shown smoothly.

 

[Regidian]

VN's are also limited due to screen time so unfortunately that also means we don't see a lot of really impressive shit happening with our eyes.


FGO needs an anime where everything is shown smoothly.

Most of the duel of musashi are described in shimousa + material are here, not like i can't just re show them here.

 

[LordGinSama]

Most of the duel of musashi are described in shimousa + material are here, not like i can't just re show them here.

Think your failing to understand what I mean lol.

 

[Regidian]

Think your failing to understand what I mean lol.

What you try to mean ? The only thing i understand is that you litteraly consider what Musashi do as wank just because it doesn't appear as an anime directly to let you see if what is tell is what she do

 

[LordGinSama]

Last I checked all of Shimosa isn't animated. One is from the novel and one is from the manga.


And not necessarily, wank bit as a joke but the main part was that it's quite literally impossible to quantify most of her stuff, meanwhile if it were animated or at least drawn then we'd be able to legitimately quantify it.

 

[Sevil Natas]

henry from KCD is above everyone on the list change my mind

 

[PrinceofPein]

Don't understand what you mean yiu want soujiro to slash which futur if musashi erased all the other possibilities? Only one possibility=lead to only one futur.

and in that possibility the only thing he will see his is own death, like seriously, let me provide the scans

Desire to become the strongest swordsman in the world. It's the ultimate destination Soujirou has long sought. But everything would eventually be cut, leaving nothing for the God of the Sword. Eventually, he found a person to love and cut forever, one that desires to receive the gleam of his sword, one in which he desires to reach her core. Ability of this law is "cutting all that exists". From the physical to the metaphysical, tangible or intangible, concrete or abstract, everything is severed. Lifespan, luck, law, soul, distance, time, infinite possibilies, fate, space, dimensions, spirits, All is slashed. While his Taikyoku may seem to be surpassed, it will still affect his targets. First the flesh is severed, then his law goes deeper down to the "core" of everything. Moreover, as this Law turns Soujirou into the "sword" himself, this ability works with anything, even chopsticks or even bare handed will cause a cutting phenomenon. Logic no longer applies to him, so idea that a single swing result in a single slash is nonexistent. There's no concept of swinging, so everthing is hit. Distance doesn't even matter as it is cut too, so his distance infinite.

let us forget this even kills 1B beings, even in equal stats musashi is not surviving a single slash, oh btw did i tell you soujiro sword attacks is also passive? (Since it was a part of his hax i decided not to mention it but if you are mentioning musashi hax eh why cant i mention soujiro's own)

Mibu Soujirou’s Distortion. The extent of this ability is unknown as Soujirou is unaware of its nature, thus he can only use it unconsciously. Soujirou states that whoever fought against him "died". This isn't some kind of physical cutting attack, but something beyond, a higher dimensional form of conceptual cutting. Idea of slashing itself, absolute severance whether it was Tenmas themselves, or even visions of the future.

And how will musashi create another possibility if his future nad life force has already been slashed passively?

級長戸辺颶風 (Shinatobe no Kaze): A technique that turns murderous intent into a sword. Despite the fact it doesn’t cause any big phenomenon, it releases precises slashes at close range without having to draw his sword, it cannot be predicted and therefore is impossible to dodge.

also this

I mean it's just bypassing an invulnerability so yeah doesn't have anything to do with the potency of the time armour it doesn't make mibu more skilled just show he can bypass invulnerability.

Time armour negates any form of change,

You don't have read all the thing in my previous comment then. Musahsi basic skill is to jump trough infinite possibilities and chose the one she decide to head her to victory...

And like all the other thing you tell muashi can do it...

in all possibilities she still dies