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It’s a reason for her not to add layers of barriers on herself aside from one.
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Tier High 6-A The Battle of the Beast Tournament (2023): Tatsumaki vs Yami Ichika
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It’s a reason for her not to add layers of barriers on herself aside from one.
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hm i got it
but tatsumaki is a nerd, to addapt into a battle is really easy, adding layers to the barrier doenst seem a hard thing to such a skilled esper
also, what stops tatsumaki from just crushing her opponent here? like KOS.
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if she notice that the barrier is breaking she can just fix it lol
until she’s not injuried she’’ll tank a 10 exatons + attack quite well
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i never said it was hard for her, just that she simply won’t unless forced to. And by the time that happens it will be too late because Ichika will foresee the barrier and blitz with Zetten over two strikes. One to destroy the barrier and the other aimed to Tats’ neck since that’s where Ichika normally aims with her sword.
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speed is equalized, so, you cannot blitz, and tatsumaki is an esper, trying to fight her is literally action vs thoughts
tatsumaki is >I>I>5 exatons
this woman is 12,58
a 2,2x difference in ap would never break her barrier in one shot.
and you didnt answer me yet, what stops tatsumaki from just crushing her opponent at the beggining of the fight?
what kind of resistance to telekinesis this woman have?
can she endure paralysis enducement? how can she dodge tatsumaki's danmaku with equalized speed, considering that EACH ATTACK from ''casual'' tatsumaki is 5 exatons>, which is more than enough to be a pain in the ass
also, tatsumaki does have durability negation, she can just crush her opponent heart, twist her lungs, smash her brain
i noticed that you think that tatsumaki will fail because she wont start with full potency at the beggining of the fight, but just to remember you, when she tanked psykorochi's beam, she was casual and wasn't expecting a multicontinental beam incoming, that is also 5> exatons, which is WAY MORE than any enemy that she has ever faced before
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Okay before I respond to most of the things already discussed in the thread in your message above.
I want to ask if Tatsumaki can sense Ki. Can/ Has she sensed Ki? Like before?
Because I just realized this is how she was able to find everyone underground and not via Ki sensing
I want to ask if Tatsumaki can sense Ki. Can/ Has she sensed Ki? Like before?
Because I just realized this is how she was able to find everyone underground and not via Ki sensing
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she can use both ways to locate targets
using eletrical objects and using the target itself, she did both things already many times.
also, when tatsumaki vs psykos started, tatsumaki localizated psykos 1,5km underground just because psykos was oozing bloodlust
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Tatsumaki doesn't have Danmaku.
Not sure what's up with OPM goons and calling like 5 attacks Danmaku lol.
Not sure what's up with OPM goons and calling like 5 attacks Danmaku lol.
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Tatsumaki has never used that in character even while actively trying to kill her opponents.
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Ki is a concept in OPM. Can you tell me when she has sensed it?
I know Garou has. But I don't see ki sensing in the extrasensory perception area of her page.
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This is Ichika's LS chain
BW Ichika > PDU Asta > Lucius (with 100% Lucifero's strength) = Lucifero 100% > Lucius (with 50% power on top of his own is enough to restrain lucifero) > 50% Lucifero (grabbed Asta's swords mid swing with his fingers, and with so much force that Asta couldn't move it out) >>> DU Asta = Class P
I still don't see Ichika struggling much against Tats slightly inferior class P.
BW Ichika > PDU Asta > Lucius (with 100% Lucifero's strength) = Lucifero 100% > Lucius (with 50% power on top of his own is enough to restrain lucifero) > 50% Lucifero (grabbed Asta's swords mid swing with his fingers, and with so much force that Asta couldn't move it out) >>> DU Asta = Class P
I still don't see Ichika struggling much against Tats slightly inferior class P.
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WAIT A ******* MINUTE
LUCIFERO AT 100% SHOULD HAVE DOUBLE THE LS OF HIS 50% SELF WHO HAS HALF HIS PHYSICAL BODY.
3.2e+16...
Ichika is 2.76x higher than Tatsumaki with a scaling chain of
BW Ichika > PDU Asta > Lucius (with 100% Lucifero's strength) >= Lucifero 100%
Ichika should not be struggling with TK now. It should be quite easy.
If Tats starts with thought-based TK. Ichika should be able to break out of it with the Zetten attack she starts with and blitz Tatsumaki before she sets up a following Barrier. A slash to the neck should kill Tats since that's where Ichika tends to aim with her sword. Tats aura only enables her to take Multi-Continental attacks but it's not a barrier in of itself. Slashing Tatsumaki's neck with sharp Katana and a <2.2x AP advantage should be easy for Ichika.
LUCIFERO AT 100% SHOULD HAVE DOUBLE THE LS OF HIS 50% SELF WHO HAS HALF HIS PHYSICAL BODY.
3.2e+16...
Ichika is 2.76x higher than Tatsumaki with a scaling chain of
BW Ichika > PDU Asta > Lucius (with 100% Lucifero's strength) >= Lucifero 100%
Ichika should not be struggling with TK now. It should be quite easy.
If Tats starts with thought-based TK. Ichika should be able to break out of it with the Zetten attack she starts with and blitz Tatsumaki before she sets up a following Barrier. A slash to the neck should kill Tats since that's where Ichika tends to aim with her sword. Tats aura only enables her to take Multi-Continental attacks but it's not a barrier in of itself. Slashing Tatsumaki's neck with sharp Katana and a <2.2x AP advantage should be easy for Ichika.
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By the way I'm voting tatsumaki, this seems pretty clear to me considering the sizable AP advantage she should have.
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she does not have an AP advantge
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Remove Epiccheev and ssgengar because they did not vote for Tatsumaki.
Change that 3 one shots above 5.68 to a 2 one shot like the actual supporters claim it is.
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I literally don't get it.
nearly 3x higher with an upscale chain and they wanna train on me without any new arguments.
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and how is that ?
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HOOO BOI
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what is tats' wincon?
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No idea.
They were just claiming she would be able to put a barrier before Ichika blitzes her with Zetten. They claim her starting move is TK and I said Ichika’s starting move is Zetten. So now that I’ve proven Ichika has a sizeable advantage, the moment Tatsumaki wastes her starting move on TK Ichika just blitzes with Zetten and slashes her neck with her sword.
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because tatsumaki's upscale consists of literally crushing a god buffed orochi into a meat tornado on a cellular level, which is ridiculously VASTLY superior to a tiny little 2 times gap in AP values.
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How are those wincons?
The only wincon she had is TK which Ichika resists with her LS.
Ichika still blitzes before she puts up a barrier.
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...? Ichika's durability..?
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Hmm
Ichika has precog via Ki right? If so then Tats should still be able to tag her with TK:
Ichi: thought based precog -> Reaction (2)
Tats: thought based TK (1)
But Ichika should be fine dealing with said TK since her LS is higher than Tats'. How is the AP/Durability gap? Who' is higher?
At that point, I assume Ichika would use Zetten. Zetten has a 20x speed Amp uhh how is Tats reacting to that?
I heard she has passive "aura"? What does that mean?How does it work? Does it act like a barrier? Can Zetten cut through this aura? Can someone show scans of this aura in action?
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Tatsumaki fra
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It only raises Tatsumaki’s durability from unknown to 5.68 Exatons so she can not die from Psyko’s beam. Ichika with 12.58 Exatons and a slashing attack on a smaller surface area on the neck will blitz and damage Tatsumaki before she can even think of putting her barriers up.
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Damage isn't beating Arnold. I know it would damage Tatsumaki. That much is obvious. As I've mentioned earlier, Tatsumaki has pretty busted injury tolerance and endurance, so that would not be even close to being enough to take her out.
All Tatsumaki needs is one good hit, while it would take more than several for Ichika to take Tatsumaki out while having to deal with layered barriers, auras and relentless attacks.
All Tatsumaki needs is one good hit, while it would take more than several for Ichika to take Tatsumaki out while having to deal with layered barriers, auras and relentless attacks.
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Passive Aura was used told raise Tats durability from unknown to being able to take some damage from psycho’s beam. It only enhances her durability not block attacks cuz she still got damaged by it.
Yeah Ichika has thought based precog
And Ichika has the higher AP and durability value while Zetten is active 2.2x to be exact. However the supporters claim she doesn’t have an advantage at all since Tats has a scaling chain of two one shots over her value which makes no sense considering @SamanPatou says in verse one shots are only good upscale chains.
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Has she ever shrugged off a cut on the neck? Ichika always goes for Decap with her sword. So can Tatsumaki’s pain tolerance enable her to fight with a gaping slash wound on her neck?
I have discussed this with Armorchompy and DMUA. They see why decapitation is possible given the AP difference and the fact Ichika has a Katana. I think even Esper powers become unstable if there is an attack to their head or neck area I may be wrong. But Tatsumaki is not shrugging off gaping wound slash in her neck if not outright decap.
I told you that while Zetten is active Ichika’s durability is also increased to 12.58 Exatons. And I picked Ichika because she spams Zetten. That should be enough to take attacks from Tatsumaki. However Tatsumaki still loses once she starts with TK.
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