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Arnold, what's the AP advantage that Ichika really has compared to Tats?
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Tier High 6-A The Battle of the Beast Tournament (2023): Tatsumaki vs Yami Ichika
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That's literally what I've been saying this whole time. 2.2x is NOT a massive gap by any means. THEY ARE ALREADY RELATIVE. The scalingnchain for Tats only proves that it closes that gap even further - that's literally all im saying.
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Tbh if Coomander is basing his vote off of shit that isn't even in the profiles his vote shouldn't be counted.
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Also Yami FRA.
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Tatsumaki scaling to being able to blow a massive hole through orochi already easily closes that gap
the fact that she upscales even higher on top of that with grinding psykos into a tornado makes her a one shot above someone that psykorochi would already be relative to
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I'm sure the other arguments for Tats are LS and superior AP, which have already been debunked throughout the thread.
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You know, make a CRT.
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So what are you saying. That she one shots Ichika? You do realize that in verse one shots do not translate into oneshotting other characters in cross matches right? All it brings is a scaling chain.
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Not debunked at all
You are blatantly contradicting the way that the wiki treats upscaling in every other vs match ever made. This is stupid.
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That's what he's saying Ziller. They're relative to one another, but Yami simply has the numbers advantage with Zetten and such. The upscaling for Tatsumaki makes it closer but still at the end of the day, numbers are numbers and outdo non-quantifiable scaling chains.
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Based on what Nierre said you should just forget it lol
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@Arnoldstone18 what is Ichika's scaling chain? Does she have one?
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You didn’t even read what I said.
How can you not grasp the concept that I am only using the system that literally every vs thread with upscaling uses. Learn how things work and then we can talk.
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How don't? Ichika has 2.7x higher LS and 2.2x higher AP.
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1.3x?
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Yes, that is the claim you are making, and I am saying that is not correct, because Tatsumaki’s insane scaling above her value would make her comparable to characters stronger than ichika
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This is true but also need to keep in mind that while taking heavy damage and keeping up her TK powers they do start to significantly weaken her to the point where fodder like F.U can break from her TK.
Not sure how long she fought with Psykos for but she was out of energy by the end of it. Her TK isn't something that she can spam endlessly.
So depending on how Yami plays her cards outlasting can be a win-con for her, but that would also depend on Yami's own stamina feats and considering BC characters are known to fight for periods of time I'd imagine her's is just as impressive.
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I'm fully aware of what you said. No amount of up scaling is gonna make the number that Tatsumaki scales to any bigger without a direct numeral statement.
Otherwise again, it's non-quantifiable. Yami does in fact have the numbers advantage here.
Also it's a good idea to not tell the guy who's been here way longer than you and knows how the wiki works at its core to "learn how to the wiki works." whenever you yourself obviously don't. Practice what you preach first and then we'll talk.
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I mean, I'd imagine having brain damage, leaking blood, having your organs crushed, and more would do that to you.
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Again, that's out of character as **** for her to do, even while bloodlusted and actively trying to kill people she's never done anything like targeting organs.
she just did it on fubuki, not just did target something inside her body, targeted a ******* capsule
and her intelligence is gifted~genius, if she needs to, SHE WILL OBVIOUSLY DO IT, theres NOTHING out of her character, and watch your ******* mouth if you dont wanna be treated like a random simp.
She even got inside psykorochi’s body just to counter her telekinesis’ resistance and twist her from the inside out and this human tells me that tatsumaki targeting organs is not on her character, god, lord.
tatsumaki LITERALLY STATED that psykorochi was protected by a VERY STRONG forceshield during the entire fight, tatsumaki needed to bypass it to damage psykorochi with her telekinesis.
which is already enough to give this BC character a run for her money
she just did it on fubuki, not just did target something inside her body, targeted a ******* capsule
and her intelligence is gifted~genius, if she needs to, SHE WILL OBVIOUSLY DO IT, theres NOTHING out of her character, and watch your ******* mouth if you dont wanna be treated like a random simp.
She even got inside psykorochi’s body just to counter her telekinesis’ resistance and twist her from the inside out and this human tells me that tatsumaki targeting organs is not on her character, god, lord.
this is what happens when you know SHIT about a character and yet you wanna argue, my man
tatsumaki LITERALLY STATED that psykorochi was protected by a VERY STRONG forceshield during the entire fight, tatsumaki needed to bypass it to damage psykorochi with her telekinesis.
this is hilarious, then, since its not listed on her profile, lets just call it picking up many things at once to defend and attack herself
which is already enough to give this BC character a run for her money
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2.2x
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The ability to produce a great amount of projectiles at once, in order to overwhelm the target by the sheer number of shots. Some users also add complex patterns to make dodging additionally difficult.
Note: To qualify for Danmaku, the user has to be shown to create tens or dozens of projectiles in a very short timeframe (i.e., at least 20 to 24 minimum).
LOOKS like YOU dont even know what danmaku is, she literally, LITERALLY stopped hundreds of bullets at once and used them to attack, if this isn’t danmaku, idk what its
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Nah I'd rather just have Coomander banned from this wiki as a whole. He's violated several rules already just in this thread and has been warned in the past.At this point, I think it's just better to go for the coin toss because the votes are nearly dead even
Im probably gonna unfollow as well because I'm not really interested in this match anyway
He's gone, Mark my words.
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I’m on a date rn so please you guys take it easy 
. I’ll respond in a few hours.
. I’ll respond in a few hours.
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Impossible!I’m on a date rn so please you guys take it easy
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Kk so when are u picking me up bbyI’m on a date rn so please you guys take it easy
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WI’m on a date rn so please you guys take it easy
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Translation "i am looking at more secre ****"I’m on a date rn so please you guys take it easy
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I'd make you cry right now with my own insults but considering you aren't gonna be here much longer I don't feel the need to.
Some advice? Don't be such an ignorant jackass and then maybe people would like you more.
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I’m on a date rn so please you guys take it easy
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Reading the thread I guess Yami wins FRA
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Because she needed to remove it from her sister, now shut up and stop ignoring the fact that her durability negation is something she's never done nor shown in character, even while bloodlusted.
Idk man, what your doing is literal simp behavior right now. Getting angry over a disagreement over one of your fictional waifu's? Get real and grow up. You obviously have some deep seeded anger issues you should look into there.
Her being a genius means nothing. Matter of fact she isn't even a genius, she's "gifted." which again is irrelevant here.
Funny, you said all of that and yet Psykorochi still doesn't have resistance to TK in her profile.
Still not Danmaku, and more importantly not on the profile.
But this is gonna my last reply to you here.
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Ngl Arnold’s arguments make most sense to me, though I can see where Tatsumaki has a chance at winning
It’s worth noting that Ichika also scales like 3 upscales above her value.
Post-Second Grimoire Spade Arc Spirit Dive Yuno = 31.44 petatons < Beginning of Final Saga Black Asta < Base Ichika, then Zetten Base Ichika is a 20x buff so that’s over 628.8 petatons, then Zetten Base Ichika < Dark-Cloaked Black Musha Ichika (and then another 20x for when she uses Zetten, so that’s over 12.58 exatons)
Given what Arnold has said (mainly the precog and Zetten blitz) and this aforementioned bit about her AP, I’m giving my vote to Ichika
It’s worth noting that Ichika also scales like 3 upscales above her value.
Post-Second Grimoire Spade Arc Spirit Dive Yuno = 31.44 petatons < Beginning of Final Saga Black Asta < Base Ichika, then Zetten Base Ichika is a 20x buff so that’s over 628.8 petatons, then Zetten Base Ichika < Dark-Cloaked Black Musha Ichika (and then another 20x for when she uses Zetten, so that’s over 12.58 exatons)
Given what Arnold has said (mainly the precog and Zetten blitz) and this aforementioned bit about her AP, I’m giving my vote to Ichika
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try to insult me for no reason, ill report you for thread moderators and you get banned.
do it, as you please.
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"Try to insult me and I'll report u."
Man's literally just ignored 3 pages of him insulting people and being aggressive.
Anyway you can buzz off now, you'll be dealt with soon.
Man's literally just ignored 3 pages of him insulting people and being aggressive.
Anyway you can buzz off now, you'll be dealt with soon.
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