S o n i k k u n i n g e n.
Because Toriyama needed him to use said technique then, not before.
It's a joke, no one is legitimately angry at this.
Vegeta was defeated when the humans, Piccolo and Trunks intervended. If Tien's Kikoho would be that strong, he woulf realize that is his only option and use it to win
Yeah. No one is angry. We're just debating, that's all
He wasn't close to 17 when he attacked
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Yes he was. When Trunks charged to help against Vegeta, 17 literally swooped in to one shot Trunks. That is when everyone else started to attack the two androids, including Tien. It was clear at this point that 17 was as threatening as 18, if not more so
He could've prepared to use it rather than rushing in like an idiot if he knew that will work. He could've used the Kikoho while 17 was distracted with Trunks and Piccolo to one shot 17 right there
Trunks was knocked out by 17 and he was unconscious right next to him so he would've died by the Kikoho too.
No he wouldn't because Android 17 knocked him away. You can see that when 17 kicked him
Piccolo doesn't need to know. Tien could've joined Piccolo on his own. Besides, Tien's Kikoho is the same one he already had before, and Piccolo is well aware of this technique
Fair point.
Tien couldn't have known how things would've played out. You can't expect characters to behave in the most perfect rational way all the time, mistakes are normal.
No, this is the Neo-Kikohō, an improved version of the original Kikohō. Even Cell (the guy who knows all the Z Fighters' techniques) was caught off guard by the attack.
Yes he could. If Tien thought he could stop and damage Semi-Perfect Cell with his Kikoho attacks, then he could definitely use the same technique against the far weaker Android 17, or the far weaker Imperfect Cell. An attack like this would one shot 17 so that would be a very easy way for Tien to beat him. This wasn't even a mistake, he experienced 17's power first hand. If he knew his Kikoho was stronger, then Tien would've went with Piccolo to to finish 17 with a single blast
Cell knows all the Z fighter techniques that are part of his cells. He doesn't have the humans cells within him. He have only Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Frieza and Cold's cells within him, and he didn't use the techniques of those he didn't had Cells from, which made Cell unaware of Tien's techniques (especially since Cell never met Tien before this as he died in the future long before Cell was born)
Pardon, but what does backscaling mean, exactly?
scale to the baseline value of the tier.
I see, many thanks
Seems like he knew since he thought that will delay Semi-Perfect Cell
He saw his power and how he defeated SSJ Trunks in one blow. He also can sense Piccolo while he fights with 17
Cell doesn't know their technique though. The computer only gave Cell general knowledge about the rest of the Z fighters, not their techniques. He never displayed any of the others techniques (Krillin, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu)
Chi-Chi shamelessly claps both.
Oh yeah, you're right. But he still didn't attempt something that could potentially kill him until after Dende was around.
We intend to scale it higher than Android 16's AP, which is 1/2 of Cell's, and consequentially lower than just backscaling. (I believe)
That works I guess
Put it in the OP.
I assume you're in agreement with the proposal of the OP...?
