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Thor VS Garou • (12-3-0)

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Westcoast5005 said:
Which leads to my next point. What’s stopping Thor from just absorbing all of Garou energy, this is regular move he does against foes for example galactus
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The fact that Garou just 1 shots before Thor even uses it and has many counters to this. Like running away or BFR with Hyperspace gates.
He has energy manipulation so I wouldn't be too surprised if he resisted this though this is just an assumption.
 
TaiwaneseScaler said:
The fact that Garou just 1 shots before Thor even uses it and has many counters to this. Like running away or BFR with Hyperspace gates.
He has energy manipulation so I wouldn't be too surprised if he resisted this though this is just an assumption.
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garou doesn't have exponential growth thats's saitama
Garou can't absorb thor powers cause it's magic based
thor electricity is magic based garou aint resisting it
Why would thor forcefield be bypassed by garou hyperspace.


as for the the absorbtion, garou can't resist it because it's a counter attack the moment garou uses any attacks thor or his hammer just absorbs it.
 
if garou attacks thor, it gets absorbed if garou tries fighting hand to hand he losses as thor just sucks him dry of all is energy immediately.
 
Westcoast5005 said:
garou doesn't have exponential growth thats's saitama
Garou can't absorb thor powers cause it's magic based
thor electricity is magic based garou aint resisting it
Why would thor forcefield be bypassed by garou hyperspace.


as for the the absorbtion, garou can't resist it because it's a counter attack the moment garou uses any attacks thor or his hammer just absorbs it.
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I think you misunderstand what I am implying here. Every ability Thor has against Garou is completely useless magic or not. (Life absorption being the exception)
We are speaking about Physical Stats and Fighting Style. If Thor gets a boost in power Garou replicates it and surpasses it. I don't know where you got, he does not have exponential Growth but you do you. Garou one shots before anything happens at all.


You ignored my arguments on what he can do against the electricity.

As for Hyperspace bypassing a forcefield ill let your imagination think of this situation for you.


Also his absorption is Gravity the magic gets redirected and absorbed.
 
TaiwaneseScaler said:
Yea I am aware of Thors abilities.


Garou one shots no matter how you look at it. First off he already starts off at an AP advantage viable to just 1 shot off the bat.

Thors only method of increasing stats is through Statistics Amplification (Can double his strength with Megingjord, or increase his strength tenfold with the Warrior's Madness), Berserk Mode (via Warrior's Madness).

Which doesn't mean crap because Garou can Instantly copy it. Power Boosts is what Thor has which is completely useless against instant matching and exponential surpassing. Even if Thor had a growth rate Its linear It can't beat Garou's matching and exponential growth. Additionally Garou also has some Power Boosts Like Awakening Breath and Exploding Heart release fist. There is no way Thor can counter the one shot its impossible for him.
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We discussed that before.
TaiwaneseScaler said:
You cant even argue Thors matter manip aswell as Garou has resistance to it on a subatomic level (arguably Macro quantum)
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Thor resists nuclear fission, Atomization, hell surviving the matter-antimatter annihilation should make him immune to macro-Quantum
TaiwaneseScaler said:
Forcefields' can be bypassed with Hyperspace Gates and Thor aint going to BFR cause Garou can escaped being trapped in different dimensions.
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Thor's force fields/Vortex affect space-time, Garou will need something that will allow him to get past that

Also Thor can Throw him to 2-C distance as Minimum
TaiwaneseScaler said:
Garou just 1 shots easily and I think he has resistance to electricity.
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Garou's resistance comes from surviving electricity from a cable line, idk of is comparable to lightning that is 1 million volts range
TaiwaneseScaler said:
Even if he doesn't Thor would never get the opportunity to use it and Garou just spams Hyperspace Gate
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Do you know that Thor's AoE can cover the entire universe, passing the dimensional barriers that separate Asgard and Earth?

TaiwaneseScaler said:
God Blast or any other blast energy attacks would be absorbed.
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Unless Garou has Tier 1 nature shit absorb feats and the size of it, he's not absorbing a Godblast.
 
Westcoast5005 said:
if garou attacks thor, it gets absorbed if garou tries fighting hand to hand he losses as thor just sucks him dry of all is energy immediately.
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At the start of the Battle it is a 1 shot for Garou. It would be out of character for Thor to start off with energy absorption.

Plus he can still damage opponents without directly touching them
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
We discussed that before.

Thor resists nuclear fission, Atomization, hell surviving the matter-antimatter annihilation should make him immune to macro-Quantum

Thor's force fields/Vortex affect space-time, Garou will need something that will allow him to get past that

Also Thor can Throw him to 2-C distance as Minimum


Garou's resistance comes from surviving electricity from a cable line, idk of is comparable to lightning that is 1 million volts range

Do you know that Thor's AoE can cover the entire universe, passing the dimensional barriers that separate Asgard and Earth?


Unless Garou has Tier 1 nature shit absorb feats and the size of it, he's not absorbing a Godblast.
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Yea and you concluded that Thor and Garou grow to equal stats at their cap which is completely not the case here. Garous first attack will 1 shot. If Thor grows he matches in power and surpasses then 1 shots.

You misunderstood. I am saying Thors matter manip wont do anything to Garou. He has Matter Manipulation (Transmutation, Antimatter Manipulation and Atomization)

I told you he has various counters to that with the hyperspace gates and gravity manipulation.

That doesnt prevent Garou from coming back

There's no levels to this crap he straight up manipulates Gravity being able to completely counter all blast attacks
 
TaiwaneseScaler said:
Yea and you concluded that Thor and Garou grow to equal stats at their cap which is completely not the case here. Garous first attack will 1 shot. If Thor grows he matches in power and surpasses then 1 shots.

You misunderstood. I am saying Thors matter manip wont do anything to Garou. He has Matter Manipulation (Transmutation, Antimatter Manipulation and Atomization)

I told you he has various counters to that with the hyperspace gates and gravity manipulation.

That doesnt prevent Garou from coming back

There's no levels to this crap he straight up manipulates Gravity being able to completely counter all blast attacks
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i didn't conclude that don't put that on me

thor detroys garou hyperspace that was already concluded

if anything thor one shots as garou can't copy him
 
Westcoast5005 said:
i didn't conclude that don't put that on me

thor detroys garou hyperspace that was already concluded

if anything thor one shots as garou can't copy him
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Yea he destroys the Hyperspace gate if Garou just uses one. But Garou litterly spams it in unpredictable patterns extremely swiftly.

Thats not how Physical stats work unless you are referring to Blessed which still doesnt mean stuff. Let me explain how Garou can replicate the physical stats. With tangible measurement.


So your argument is that Thors Physical Stats are magical so Garou cannot copy. If this were the case then thats not physical stats thats a magical force (ability) Thor uses to attack. Which I already exclaimed is not the case here. So that should clear Physical stats for you.

If you still dont agree here think about this. Every attack Thor uses has an output of energy that it generates/produces. That comes from the force of his Physical attacks. That is Physical stats that is how Thor attacks and Garou can copy that.

He still absorbs God blast. Plus he can escape with Hyperspace Gate
 
TaiwaneseScaler said:
At the start of the Battle it is a 1 shot for Garou
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Magnitude 6​


  • E = 4 * (4.459613919340E+24)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 9.8340268E+66 Joules | 98.3 ZettaFoe (Galaxy level)

Magnitude 7​


  • E = 4 * (1.410253747010E+26)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 3.1097923E+68 Joules | 3.1 YottaFoe (Galaxy level)

Magnitude 8​


  • E = 4 * (4.459613919340E+27)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 9.8340268E+69 Joules | 98.3 YottaFoe (Multi-Galaxy level)

Magnitude 9​


  • E = 4 * (1.410253747010E+29)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 3.1097923E+71 Joules | 3.1 Ronnafoe (Multi-Galaxy level)

Magnitude 10​


  • E = 4 * (4.459613919340E+30)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 9.8340268E+72 Joules | 98.3 Ronnafoe (Multi-Galaxy level)




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  • Visible Star End = 9.023102e+60 Joules (4-A)
  • Milky Way Galaxy End = 5.6394e+63 Joules (4-A)
  • Another Galaxy = 3.638245e+66 Joules (3-C)

    Thoir is is the one with higher Ap, Garou is not one shotting as you are saying
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
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Magnitude 6​


  • E = 4 * (4.459613919340E+24)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 9.8340268E+66 Joules | 98.3 ZettaFoe (Galaxy level)

Magnitude 7​


  • E = 4 * (1.410253747010E+26)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 3.1097923E+68 Joules | 3.1 YottaFoe (Galaxy level)

Magnitude 8​


  • E = 4 * (4.459613919340E+27)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 9.8340268E+69 Joules | 98.3 YottaFoe (Multi-Galaxy level)

Magnitude 9​


  • E = 4 * (1.410253747010E+29)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 3.1097923E+71 Joules | 3.1 Ronnafoe (Multi-Galaxy level)

Magnitude 10​


  • E = 4 * (4.459613919340E+30)* ((4.7303652E+27)/(6371000))^2
  • E = 9.8340268E+72 Joules | 98.3 Ronnafoe (Multi-Galaxy level)




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  • Visible Star End = 9.023102e+60 Joules (4-A)
  • Milky Way Galaxy End = 5.6394e+63 Joules (4-A)
  • Another Galaxy = 3.638245e+66 Joules (3-C)

    Thoir is is the one with higher Ap, he is not one shotting as you are saying
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Copy and Surpass
 
TaiwaneseScaler said:
Yea and you concluded that Thor and Garou grow to equal stats at their cap which is completely not the case here. Garous first attack will 1 shot. If Thor grows he matches in power and surpasses then 1 shots.
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Ah
TaiwaneseScaler said:
You misunderstood. I am saying Thors matter manip wont do anything to Garou. He has Matter Manipulation (Transmutation, Antimatter Manipulation and Atomization)
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Ok
TaiwaneseScaler said:
I told you he has various counters to that with the hyperspace gates and gravity manipulation.
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Again, spacetime is torn apart when Thor does a Vortex, hell he could sever Garou and God's connection like others proposed with his Vortex
Excel616 said:
As for copying
Power Nullification (Stops Guardian from borrowing powers[7])
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TaiwaneseScaler said:
That doesnt prevent Garou from coming back
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When has Garou returned from being sent to an alternate universe? (the Nine realms are separate universes, Garou need feats)
and other dimensions where powers do not even work correctly
TaiwaneseScaler said:
There's no levels to this crap he straight up manipulates Gravity being able to completely counter all blast attacks
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Yet, all High Level of energy attack that Thor use break the fabric of reality/universe, not sure if Gravity will do a shit more when a Black hole cannot do a shit to Mjlonir
 
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Oliver_de_jesus said:
Ah

Ok

Again, spacetime is torn apart when Thor does a Vortex, hell he could sever Garou and God's connection like others proposed with his Vortex


When has Garou returned from being sent to an alternate universe? (the Nine realms are separate universes, Garou need feats)
and other dimensions where powers do not even work correctly

Yet, all High Level of energy attack that Thor use break the fabric of reality/universe, not sure if Gravity will do a shit more when a Black hole cannot do a shit to Mjlonir
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I will reply back In an hour as I am attending a meeting.
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
Ah

Ok

Again, spacetime is torn apart when Thor does a Vortex, hell he could sever Garou and God's connection like others proposed with his Vortex


When has Garou returned from being sent to an alternate universe? (the Nine realms are separate universes, Garou need feats)
and other dimensions where powers do not even work correctly

Yet, all High Level of energy attack that Thor use break the fabric of reality/universe, not sure if Gravity will do a shit more when a Black hole cannot do a shit to Mjlonir
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There's alot to discuss here.
Anyways let’s delve into a more intricate discourse.

If we postulate that Thor possesses the capacity for space-time manipulation, you claim it could disrupt the connection between God and Garou. However, this premise assumes that the power bestowed upon Garou is continuously maintained by God, which may not be the case. God merely initiated the transfer of power, and now Garou possesses it autonomously. God retains the ability to retract these powers or terminate Garou, but the continuous maintenance of these powers may not be necessary.

Garou demonstrated interdimensional range by escaping from an alternate dimension, being sealed by Blast. This suggests Interdimensional range with Hyperspace Gates. As for the BFR strategy employed by Thor, it requires physical contact with the opponent additionally spinning Mjolnir. Hyperspace is the perfect defense mechanism against this Thor wouldn't even claim the opportunity to enact this, it is akin to teleportation.

The energy blast, while capable of causing universal destruction, does not necessarily bypass the laws of physics, despite its magical nature. If gravity fails, Garou could escape through a hyperspace gate.

However, this entire discussion operates under the assumption that Thor would have the opportunity to use Vortex. Given Garou’s increasing stats and speed advantage, Thor would be overwhelmed and defeated before he has the chance to react.
The dimensionality of Hyperspace, whether it is fourth-dimensional or otherwise, may be a moot point in this context. Garou’s utilization of Hyperspace is executed with such proficiency and speed that it renders Thor’s reaction time insufficient.

But I would like to make this argument.

Hyperspace is 5D
Hyperspace, materializes as a theoretical continuum that transcends the traditional triad of spatial dimensions, thus bestowing upon it the designation of a fourth dimension, in consonance with spacetime paradigm of special relativity. This spacetime framework, interweaves three spatial dimensions with a temporal dimension.
The elucidation of hyperspace as a fifth dimension is an intellectual triumph that arises from the ingenious amalgamation of theoretical constructs engendered by advanced theoretical physics. The conceptual leap to the fifth dimension is typified by the mathematical underpinnings of string theory, a framework that contemplates higher-dimensional spaces with distinct vibrational modes intricately woven into their fabric. These vibrational modes, essential to the string's physical interpretation, extend beyond the temporal tapestry of spacetime, infusing hyperspace with an additional dimension that pertains to the theoretical foundations of string theory itself. String theory postulates that at the quantum level, elemental constituents of matter are not point-like particles but rather infinitesimally small, vibrating strings. In this framework, the fifth dimension of hyperspace is germane, as it accommodates the various vibrational states of these strings, effectively encapsulating their vibrational repertoire within a spatial dimension. This interpretation transcends Space-Time, yielding the five-dimensional realm that is, by definition, hyperspace. The employment of these additional dimensions within the theoretical apparatus of superstring theory is emblematic of the mathematical sophistication that underscores the concept of hyperspace as a five-dimensional realm.
Additionally, the term “Hyperspace” alters definition in the context of confirmed space-time. It is a realm above space-time making it 5th Dimensional.
 
Moreover, God Blast is a final stance a last resort per say. I wouldn't just exclaim Garou starts off with Time Travel.

Thor is getting 1 shotted or swiftly ruthlessly killed before he even acclaims the opportunity to utilize it.
 
TaiwaneseScaler said:
Hyperspace is 5D
Hyperspace, materializes as a theoretical continuum that transcends the traditional triad of spatial dimensions, thus bestowing upon it the designation of a fourth dimension, in consonance with spacetime paradigm of special relativity. This spacetime framework, interweaves three spatial dimensions with a temporal dimension.
The elucidation of hyperspace as a fifth dimension is an intellectual triumph that arises from the ingenious amalgamation of theoretical constructs engendered by advanced theoretical physics. The conceptual leap to the fifth dimension is typified by the mathematical underpinnings of string theory, a framework that contemplates higher-dimensional spaces with distinct vibrational modes intricately woven into their fabric. These vibrational modes, essential to the string's physical interpretation, extend beyond the temporal tapestry of spacetime, infusing hyperspace with an additional dimension that pertains to the theoretical foundations of string theory itself. String theory postulates that at the quantum level, elemental constituents of matter are not point-like particles but rather infinitesimally small, vibrating strings. In this framework, the fifth dimension of hyperspace is germane, as it accommodates the various vibrational states of these strings, effectively encapsulating their vibrational repertoire within a spatial dimension. This interpretation transcends Space-Time, yielding the five-dimensional realm that is, by definition, hyperspace. The employment of these additional dimensions within the theoretical apparatus of superstring theory is emblematic of the mathematical sophistication that underscores the concept of hyperspace as a five-dimensional realm.
Additionally, the term “Hyperspace” alters definition in the context of confirmed space-time. It is a realm above space-time making it 5th Dimensional.
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LordGinSama said:
Do you understand what a CRT is? A simple name isn't enough to grant higher D abilities.
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