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The Elder Scrolls Revision IV: Oblivion
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What are you working in Matt?
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That's sort of ignoring his role in Morrowind which backs up his claims in Skyrim, tbh.Self Love said:
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Lol.
Neloth is literally the most powerful mage of House Telvanni and one of its acting councilors in Morrowind, with his sole superior being Divayth Fyr, who's the true recluse of the house. He's so old he calls a 200 year old elf a "baby" and never shows himself to be lying or arrogant.
He's not delusional when he says that the Dovahkiin isn't on his level as a mage, or that the College of Winterhold Archmage is a weakingly next to him, or that he could take Miraak as his student. He's confidant and certain of his capabilities, and isn't ashamed of admitting it. This is a naturally Dunmer thing to do, to know your capabilities, be proud of them, and not give a **** what others will think.
Hell, there's the fact that he can teach you Conjuration, and is admittedly >>> The Dovahkiin up until you reach Lv. 90 or so, at which point he'll refuse to teach you as he doesn't want to be surpassed.
That alone shows that he's superior to a non max-leveled Dovahkiin at least in Conjuration Magic.
Neloth is literally the most powerful mage of House Telvanni and one of its acting councilors in Morrowind, with his sole superior being Divayth Fyr, who's the true recluse of the house. He's so old he calls a 200 year old elf a "baby" and never shows himself to be lying or arrogant.
He's not delusional when he says that the Dovahkiin isn't on his level as a mage, or that the College of Winterhold Archmage is a weakingly next to him, or that he could take Miraak as his student. He's confidant and certain of his capabilities, and isn't ashamed of admitting it. This is a naturally Dunmer thing to do, to know your capabilities, be proud of them, and not give a **** what others will think.
Hell, there's the fact that he can teach you Conjuration, and is admittedly >>> The Dovahkiin up until you reach Lv. 90 or so, at which point he'll refuse to teach you as he doesn't want to be surpassed.
That alone shows that he's superior to a non max-leveled Dovahkiin at least in Conjuration Magic.
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Self Love if you don't like the way he is you should make a CRT about it, this is kinda going in circles at this point.
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You can use stuff that happens in gameplay if it's not contradicted, and him saying that you ca surpass him if he teaches you more (which insinuates you haven't at that time) doesn't really seem gameplay affiliated at all.
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There's also the fact that he resisted Miraak's mind control, and isn't impressed by your power when you use Unrelenting Force, even mocking you. He also fights dragons and boasts that he wields powers they can only dream of.
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Or Neloth could have some resurrection ability. Some mages have that. Specially when you consider how Neloth maintains his immortality.
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Gothren is Neloth's superior. Divayth is clearly more powerful than the other mages to such a ridiculous degree that scaling others to him is unfounded, you might as well scale Ulfric to Paarthurnax. Even in Dragonborn, Neloth's feats are laughable compared to Divayth's. He failed to replicate the Briarheart ritual performed regularly by Hagravens, getting his apprentice killed in the process, and needed you to help out with it, while Divayth single-handedly found a cure for corprus. Neloth considers heart stones, of which there are dozens on Solstheim alone, a valuable commodity, while Divayth collects daedric artifacts as a hobby and invites thieves to steal them, knowing full well they'll fail. Neloth struggles with Ash Spawn attacks, while Divayth thrives during the blight as it gives him something to research.
Neloth doesn't really even scoff at you if you tell him you're the archmage, he acknowledges your deeds as impressive and desires to take you on as an apprentice. Even Savos, whom he admits is better than him in restoration magic (wards specifically).
Also Neloth teaches Enchanting, not Conjuration. Staff Enchanting is presented as his thing. Nor is he immortal, that's the point of his fascination with Briarhearts.
I'm 100% with Self Love on this.
Neloth doesn't really even scoff at you if you tell him you're the archmage, he acknowledges your deeds as impressive and desires to take you on as an apprentice. Even Savos, whom he admits is better than him in restoration magic (wards specifically).
Also Neloth teaches Enchanting, not Conjuration. Staff Enchanting is presented as his thing. Nor is he immortal, that's the point of his fascination with Briarhearts.
I'm 100% with Self Love on this.
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All of that doesn't change that there is legit dialogue that acknoledges that he's a better mage than the Dovahkiin even if they are the Archmage.
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The only field in which Neloth legit can be considered above the Dovahkiin is Enchanting, there is no evidence for anything else.
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He's legit a better mage in all aspects, this is recurringly hammered home.
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Quote it exactly, if it isn't by Neloth himself.
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He was already added.
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Yes. my mistake.
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They are Low 6-B due to fact a minor Dremora Lord almost destroyed half of Glenumbra in Elder Scrolls Online.
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The Dremora will have pages?
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lmao Meliodas VS Dremora LordUltima Reality said:
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how about the Draugrs and Falmers?
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Glad to see everything is coming together well, but I don't understand why Dagoth Ur is 2-C. Can someone explain that to me?
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Anyway, Dagoth is Low 2-C via scaling from the Nerevarine, which is stronger than the aspects of Hircine, which should be stronger than Barbas who was compared to the Dovahkiin.
Also, scaling to Vivec since he exists beyond all linear time.
Also, scaling to Vivec since he exists beyond all linear time.
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Nerevar vs Nerevarine
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So uh, anything in progress?
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Amaranth, anon Anew AE I, which is said to have occupied the passageways of Heaven and Earth, because everyone above and below asks Amaranth, anon Anew AE I, if they cannot find the passage. Amaranth, anon Anew AE I, is the Godhead who caused to be visible. Amaranth, anon Anew AE I, stands as a post at the turning point. The others say of Amaranth, anon Anew AE I, the post: The One and One (An Inelegant Number) who crosses the middle of the Z the Centerex without calm, may his name be I and no other, for he takes up the Center of it in sleep. The path of the Stars in the Sky should be kept unchanged but will not, for he Dreams in the Sun and now has Dreamed of Orphans, anon Magne-Ge, the Colors he still wishes to Dream. | ||
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Wait, since Anu is the opposite of Padomay. The physiology is existent in this case? Also the "1-A" keys are mindless (bar Anui-El), that means that those keys are innaplicable in versus threads?
