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Yeah, the falling damage is a bad example, but there's plenty of cut-scene examples above + difference between blunt force trauma and heat.
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Scout literally told Heavy to let go because the two playing tug of war with a rope around his neck would have killed him, there was no "casual domination" there.Schwxnz said:snip
To support the fact that Saxton is far above the mercs, they are nothing but subnormal men in his eyes and Margaret - who Saxton directly scales to - casually dominated Heavy in a tug of war
TLDR; IMO Saxton should be upgraded to "Possibly 8-A" via beating the Yeti in the comics.
Yes, but Heavy visibly putting in effort =/= being dominated, he was told to let go by Scout so it wouldn't kill him, simple as that.Schwxnz said:Heavy was still putting in visible effort, whereas Margaret wasn't and she quickly overpowered him regardless.
Also, what does OOM mean?
Being superior to 9-Bs isn't enough evidence for 8-A.Schwxnz said:Domination was the wrong word; however she was still casually on the winning side in the tug of war.
I am aware of that - Jungle Inferno is already a demonstration of the fact that Saxton outclasses the mercs AP-wise - however it still proves that Saxton is far above the mercs.
As a whole, we've got him casually one-shotting a Yeti, whose one-shotted Soldier, Pyro and Sniper in return; as well as scaling to Margaret to blitzed Scout and was casually stronger than Heavy in a tug of war.
You are trying to upgrade him to 8-A though.Schwxnz said:I never said that? I was just responding to the "Even if Saxton were far above the mercs [...]" part.
That is true, however Saxton wasn't visibly injured after the fight against the Yeti - http://www.teamfortress.com/tf01_ring_of_fired/#f=6 - which does kinda imply that he let it attack him. Also; that would be somewhat consistent, as Saxton performs any feats that are relatively on par with the ones from the mercs with absolute ease, whereas he actually had to put in a bit of effort for this feat.
http://www.teamfortress.com/tf04_blood_in_the_water/#f=48
Except Saxton would have had to been away for a significant time period as he himself said he had it stuffed, as taxidermy takes days for a small pet like a cat, let alone a rare, full-sized ape.Schwxnz said:Yeah, but I am trying to do that via the Yeti feat from the comics; not the one from Jungle Inferno. I simply used the feat from Jungle Inferno to prove that Saxton is far above the mercs.
I vaguely remember that it has been hinted that Saxton fought the Yeti and flew back to Mann Co. directly afterwards. There isn't much to suggest that Saxton has been away for several weeks; his reasoning for not helping the mercs was literally "I'd help, but as you can see I will be fighting a Yeti for nine more hours" and not "I'd help, but as you can see I will be fighting a Yeti for nine more hours and wait until the Yeti will be completely taxidermized".
That would require more assumptions than what is already put in front of us.Schwxnz said:Sure, but TF2 hardly relies on logic. It's entirely possible that Saxton did the taxidermination all by himself.
First off, I've never said that the fight was one-sided, secondly while Saxton was bleeding, he didn't even flinch when the Yeti bit him in the arm and completely no-selled the attack.
The fact that the Yeti drew blood from him is also somewhat consistent, as nothing apart from it ever came remotely close to do something like that.
He's covered in scratches and bleeding, the last image we see of him is on the ground, there's a clear implication of injury meaning he is hurt, regardless of how receptive he is to pain itself.Schwxnz said:I mean, Saxton would've at least somewhat reacted if it hurt him - however the Yeti did definitely have the potential to hurt him, as highly implied at the end of the recording, where the Yeti barely misses him. However, I don't think that I've ever said that Saxton stomped the Yeti; I'm aware of the fact that the fight was close - otherwise Saxton wouldn't have needed 8 hours to finally beat the Yeti.
No, he hasn't. That said, none of his other feats have had him being hurt in any way; the worst thing that ever happened to him was getting his shirt ripped by panthers.
Because the Yeti isn't Tier 8 as there is nothing supporting it, the only feat it has is a one-off statement and fighting with someone that hasn't ever been shot at who happens to be stronger than 9-Bs.Schwxnz said:I don't see how beating an Tier 8 Yeti after a long fight means that you aren't Tier 8 yourself. Especially when said Yeti is the only thing that ever did any visible harm to him.
It has been concluded here that such methods are allowed. By the way gravity in tf2 is 310 times grater than on Earth if we use this merhod so we might ungrade their lifting strength tooDarkDragonMedeus said:Comparing it to the rockets for KE sounds like Calc Stacking. And it's not realistic for them to fall faster than terminal velocity speeds.